No newer images
more by Subrosa
No older images
WEDDING or NO WEDDING??? That is the question-HELP!
more in Emotional
Getting Married Next Week!!
Show your man's tux please...
more in Boards
Signs of imminent proposal?

I think I love someone else, and I don't know what to do.

posted 1 year ago in Emotional
  • 7 Members Subscribed To Topic
  •  
    1.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    Right now I feel incredibly trapped. I am engaged to a man who's cute, who works and gets paid decently, who has a supportive circle of friends, who helps with housework and cooking, who loves me dearly and would do anything for me, and who puts up with my crazy. He isn't abusive, hateful, dangerous, stupid, lazy, stoic, inattentive, unfaithful, or a drug/alcohol abuser.

    But I am not in love with him.

    Oh, I love him. If he got hurt or died, I'd be horribly upset, and would be losing my best friend.

    But it's getting harder and harder to go on with this.

    When he says he loves me, I tell him I love him too. Usually when I do, a little voice in my head screams "LIAR!" I am not scizophrenic. I know this is my guilt talking.

    And it's easy to know this because I HAVE been in love before.

    I fell in love at first sight with a man I met through a mutual friend. I didn't believe in that until then. Our eyes met, and something just happened. I have no words sufficient to describe it.

    Well, he liked me too, and eventually we got together. We dated for several months, and after awhile he hadn't mentioned marriage. I was getting worried, because my feelings for him were intensifying every day, and I needed to know whether there was at least a chance this could be a lifelong thing so that I wouldn't continue to get closer to him, and then be devastated later on.

    We both have a history of depression, self-esteem problems and "daddy issues". We would push one another away with silly things, for silly reasons. I'd bring up marriage, and he would change the subject, or say he wasn't ready. And I understood not being ready at that moment; I wasn't expecting a ring right then or even within the next year necessarily. I just wanted to know that SOMEDAY it WOULD HAPPEN, and that I wasn't wasting my time, that I wasn't just a place to stay and a piece of ass until his REAL soulmate came along.

    But he would never say that. He would never give me that assurance. He would say he wanted to get married, but he never said he wanted to MARRY ME. And I've heard that's a red flag. Plus, in college he dated another girl in this group of friends for four years, and showed a marked lack of desire to commit, (so she....married his best friend.) So I was thinking at that point, "Ok, this guy is either a lifetime bachelor, or else he wants to get married, but not TO ME." But I loved him, and didn't want to leave him, so when the subject would come up, I'd start referring to "When I have a family someday..."  "or one of these days if I ever meet someone and get married..." It was a bad idea, but I didn't want him to feel pressured, especially since I thought the matter was prettty much settled that he didn't want to marry me. And I fancied myself too much a feminist to allow myself to be strung along.

    I loved him desperately and with an intensity that surprises me even now. I stayed until the pain of rejection became too great,and then I broke up.

    At that point, I had read "Marry him! The Case for Settling for Mr. Good Enough". My best friend/ex from college wanted to date me. Even though it had been barely a month, he was super persistent, and finally I figured I might as well. Nine months later, he proposed. I kept repeating to myself that love is a decision rather than this magical thing. And trying to convince myself that even though the man I loved didn't return my feelings, getting to marry my best friend was one hell of a silver medal, and hey, those feelings could grow in time!

    Fast-forward to now. I've been talking to the ex in question. I gave myself several months of no contact before I would talk to him again because it was painful, but then after that I was pretty sure I was over him. We always knew we wanted to stay friends. I won't go into specifics, but when you haev the sort of family background/past that I have, it's VERY hard to find people who understand you, and we have a ton in common. Also, it's super hard for me to make friends because I am so shy.

    Well, anyways, he's moving away to another city soon. He will be three hours away. We got together at the bar to hang out one last time before he left (we have hung out several times, always completely platonically) and had a nice, long talk. After we had had a few, we got on the subject of relationships, and basically I told him to be careful, because those love feeelings can lie, and you might end up with someone who isn't half as into you as you are them. And I gave him a pointed look. He asked me to explain, and I did.

    And then he began crying. All that time, he wanted to marry me, and loved me too. And he had thought about telling me, but when I "moved on so quickly" he decided against it.

    In the immortal words of Gob Bluth, I think I've made a terrible mistake.

     
    2.
    Hostess
    10,917 posts
    Sugar
    Beekeeper
    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    It sounds like you've made your decision. For the sake of your fiance and yourself, break it off so you can all move on with life. Don't drag this out, it's no good for anyone.

     
    3.
    Member
    2,829 posts
    Sugar bee
    Mrs.ChubbyBunny    October 1, 2011   Texas

    I agree with bakerella. Once the heart has made a decision that heavy, it is impossible to go back. Break it off and begin fresh. Good luck!

     
    4.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    @bakerella: Breaking up with FI is no guarantee I could get together with this guy. He's going to live really far away. He may have gotten too hurt by the breakup to be able to realistically consider being with me again. And there's a chance I suppose that he was just telling me that to make me feel better, thinking there was no way it would make a difference at this point to give my ego a little stroke.

    And. faced with the prospect of actually committing, he may well prove to be a lifetime bachelor. At that point I would lose everything--friendship with him, friendship with current FI, my entire social circle here, etc.

    I guess an ideal solution would be to do something to make myself feel about FI the way I feel about this guy. But I don't know how to do that.

     
    5.
    Member Icon
    Member
    889 posts
    Busy bee
    sueanddemetrius    September 17, 2011   NH/MA

    It's not too late! You can break it off and follow your heart to your true love. 

    I know it's tough but it looks like your wedding is waaaaay far off so you have plenty of time to do what is right for you.

     
    6.
    Member
    1,076 posts
    Bumble bee
    mzlouis2b    November 3, 2012   Live in Brooklyn, wedding in MI

    end it with your FI. If you love someone else, why waste either of your time?

     
    7.
    Hostess
    10,917 posts
    Sugar
    Beekeeper
    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    @Subrosa: To me, this other guy doesn't even figure into the situation. Whether or not you get together with him is inconsequential to emotionally cheating on someone who sounds like a wonderful man that deserves someone who truly does love him back. I don't mean to be harsh, but if you can't reciprocate what your fiance is putting into your relationship, he deserves the chance to find the person who does. What you're doing isn't fair or right for him.

     
    8.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    @sueanddemetrius: LOL, that's a fake date. The actual wedding is in 2012, but I didn't want anyone to know who I was, because I normally post under another name and have people I know in real life on here.

     
    9.
    Member Icon
    Member
    311 posts
    Helper bee
    dianeanthony    October 1, 2011  

    oh man. i agree, break it off now...the sooner the better. If the guy you love, loves you back too...you'll never get over it....even if things dont work out with the ex bf....you honestly do not love your fiance now...so why hurt him any more?

     
    10.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    @dianeanthony: So you don't think there's any way I can get myself to love FI more? I mean, there has to be some way, or else arranged marriages wouldn't work out so well, right?

     
    11.
    Member
    607 posts
    Busy bee
    Snowy414    August 20, 2011   Colorado

    @bakerella:  Exactly my thoughts

     
    12.
    Member
    3,679 posts
    Sugar bee
    cyndistar3    September 3, 2011   Post Falls ID

    @Subrosa: Don't put your FI threw this... You shouldn't be staying with him just because you might not get a chance to get with the other guy. You shouldn't marry your back up plan, it isn't fair to him. He deserves to have someone that truly loves him back. It seems like your heart is with the other guy, but you need to pick one. No one deserves only half of a person's heart.

     
    13.
    Member
    607 posts
    Busy bee
    Snowy414    August 20, 2011   Colorado

    I think respectful love will grow over time and I think that is often the case with arranged marriage but I don't think that passionate love grows.  If you just want a best friend than your FI might be a great match but it sounds like you are looking for the over the top love which it doesn't sound like you have with FI. I don't really know if thats true but thats the feeling i get from reading your post

     
    14.
    Member Icon
    Member
    311 posts
    Helper bee
    dianeanthony    October 1, 2011  

    @Subrosa:  It sounds like you deeply care about FI, and love him as a best friend.  You cant force yourself to be in love with someone.  Arranged marriages are forced and that is a cultural thing...you have a choice right? My friend who is originally from India had an arranged marriage....she came to the US with the guy and had his baby...their marriage fell apart within the first year and now she has so many problems with guys...

    Sometimes no matter how great a person is for you, they are not necessarily the one for you.  He sounds like a very nice guy that loves you.  The problem is that it sounds like you dont feel that sense of "cant live without each other type of love".  So despite whether or not you would get with your ex-bf, i think the main concern is that you shouldnt get married to someone who you might end up never feeling completely happy with... You dont want to ruin both of your lives basically by faking that love for him...You said you know the feeling of love, so just live your life without regrets....

     
    15.
    Member Icon
    Member
    792 posts
    Busy bee
    Oribel013690    July 30, 2011   Tennessee

    @Subrosa:  Um, arranged marriages DON'T work out so well... that's why we don't still do them.  I agree with everything bakerella said.

     
    16.
    Member
    813 posts
    Busy bee
    SoonToBeMrs.Kiss    June 11, 2011   Central Pennsylvania

    @Subrosa: There might be a chance that you might grow to love your FI. more, but what if you don't? What if you get to your wedding day and you still don't love him like he deserves or like how you want to love him? Will you say "I don't." and break his heart? Or will you say "I do." still hoping and thinking that your love will grow for him over time to later realize it will not and want a divorce? Yes, it could happen. but what if it doesn't? What will you do?

    See, whatever you decide to do. If you stay and it works out, that's great! But if you decide to stay and try to learn to love your FI, and you don't you are going to break his heart. You can try doing different things with him, or for yourself that you think will help you love him more, but what if they don't work? And you spent x amount of time trying to work it out, and during that time your FI gets even more attached to you, and you tell him it's over. What are you going to say? That you're sorry, and you tried to learn to love him like he deserved, but it didn't happen? That is going to break his heart. If you do it now, yes it will probably still break his heart, but if you wait he will get even more emotionally involved with you. Just like your situation with your ex, you wanted to know if there was a chance that you would be together forever/get married. You wanted to know because you didn't want to invest more time in the relationship if there wasn't for fear that you would fall more in love with him than you were now, and wouldn't be able to handle a break up if it happened later on. Don't do that to your FI. I'm not saying this to you to make you feel bad, but your FI doesn't deserve this now or later, but espically not later.

     
    17.
    Member
    2,219 posts
    Buzzing bee
    Beluga    July 16, 2011  

    First, you are clearly a pretty cool person since you like Arrested Development.

    Second, I think that love is both a conscious decision and a magical mystery. Yes, in longer relationships sometimes you have to consciously decide and try to make it work, but you do that because in the grand scheme of things, you're powerfully in love in a way that you can't control or explain. In my small understanding, I think that a successful, lifelong love needs both those things.

    I think I love someone else, and I don't know what to do. :  wedding cold feet desperation waiting Love

    Third, it really sounds like you want to go back to your old boyfriend, that you love him deeply, that he loves you deeply and is ready to commit in the way that you need. Breaking up will be hard on both of you, but in the long run you're being kinder by ending it then my trapping him in a marriage with someone who doesn't love him the way he deserves to be loved.

     
    18.
    Member Icon
    Member
    159 posts
    Blushing bee
    donnaaries    5/22/2010   Dallas

    I am sorry, but your FI deserves someone who truly loves him, and it sounds like you don't. 

     
    19.
    2,034 posts
    Buzzing bee
    jholler25    May 29, 2011   Fort Lauderdale, FL

    It broke my heart to read this post, mainly for your FI.  I could NEVER imagine talking about FI like he just mildly means something to me.  I can't even speak a sentence out loud with "FI's name" and "die" without wanting to run and grab him and squeeze him to death to make sure nothing awful ever happens to him where I'm left to not be able to smell him, or touch him, or warm my always cold feet under his thighs when he's watching tv on the couch.  I agree with beluga, love is both a wonderful inexplicable gift, and also something that you sometimes have to work at or sacrifice for, but the only way you're able to do that is if you truly love someone. Let your FI go so he can find someone who loves him the way that it sounds like is capable of loving someone.  Don't let your decision be based on your ex.  Base your decision on the fact that it's not fair for him to EVER be married to you if you can say this:  

    "But I am not in love with him.

    Oh, I love him. If he got hurt or died, I'd be horribly upset, and would be losing my best friend."

    You don't love him the way you're supposed to love someone when you marry them

     
    20.
    Member
    583 posts
    Busy bee
    ms.walter    June 1, 2011   st louis, mo

    You can not go through with a marriage if you are not madly, deeply IN LOVE with that person!! You will never be truly happy and it really would not be the right thing to do to your FI. As far a the ex, if he really wanted to marry you he would have done it when he had the chance! I know that sounds harsh but I wasted 4 years of my life on "Mr. I want to marry you-- someday" and guess what..... someday never came! He always had an excuse but when it came down to reality he had no intentions of marring me, just told me what I wanted to hear at the time. Eventually, I realized he would never be "ready". You need to take time and really think about your life, neither of these men seem to be your soulmate.

     
    21.
    Member Icon
    Member
    60 posts
    Worker bee
    weaselkidsmom    September 10, 2011   Baltimore MD

    Subrosa, I divorced my best friend last year, after 13 years of hoping I'd fall more in love with him.  He is an amazing person and I still can't say his name and die in the same sentence without choking up, and he still wasn't the person for me.

     

    If you truly feel this way about him, be fair to him and tell him.

     
    22.
    Member
    4,075 posts
    Honey bee
    Amaryllis    July 2, 2011  

    @jholler25: I don't want to start anything, but I really don't like the idea that love is "supposed" to be any way. Says who?

    It's different for everyone, and I understand what the OP means that you can have a quietly content love without a burning consuming love. I don't think it's fair that everyone is dumping on her for not having the latter, when, honestly, I think if more people tried for the former, there would probably be fewer divorces. That is NOT to say that people who believe in it will end up divorced, just that for people who may not think or feel that way, they are setting themselves up for problems later by trying to conform to this standard of how it is "supposed" to be. Freud said that "love" is simply when another person fulfills a need in us. So true. But Americans have a totally idealized version of it these days. I seriously recommend this article from the current issue of Psychology Today. Good read (Boo, it's a partial article. Eh, it's a short one. Stop by Barnes and Noble for 10 minutes sometime.).

    OP: We can't know your relationship with your FI. I do think it's possible to build a quietly confident, stable love with someone even if you don't feel electrified by him. It's certainly not true for everyone, but I do believe it is possible. Whether or not you want to is up to you, but definitely remove your ex from the equation and focus on whether or not you want to be with your FI in the long run.

     
    23.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    @donnaaries: I know he does. And I am/have been trying. Believe me, if there was a magic pill that would give me those feelings, I'd take two a day.

     
    24.
    Member
    583 posts
    Busy bee
    ms.walter    June 1, 2011   st louis, mo

    @Amaryllis: I agree with jholler25, she doesn't love him the way you should love the person you are about to marry! He deserves to have someone that loves him just has much as he loves her! I do believe she cares about him, about his well being, but she doesn't love him. She even admits that she is lying when she express her love to him! Her FI deserves better and she deserves to be in love with the person she is going to spend the rest of her life with! I don't think she should go back to her ex either, but that is a completely different issue to me.

     
    25.
    Member
    3,679 posts
    Sugar bee
    cyndistar3    September 3, 2011   Post Falls ID

    @Amaryllis: I am not trying to start anything either and I agree with you about those types of relationships working and all, however to me it doesn't seem like a matter of "I just don't have that crazy over the top love for this guy" and more like "I can't love him to the full extent because my heart is also over there with this other guy". I am not trying to dump on her, I just get sad thinking about how her FI might be only getting half a heart because she is still in love with her ex.

     

     
    26.
    Member
    1,135 posts
    Bumble bee
    Leahhh    September 14, 2013   Tacoma, WA

    I've been in a similar situation. I said all the exact same things, and hoped I could do the same thing you're trying to do.. but you can't make yourself fall in love. I promise. I know how you feel, and I know the guilt; I know how desperately you want to make this work.

    It'll be hard, but once you break it off it will be a huge weight off your shoulders. Then this guy can find a woman who feels the way she should about him, and you'll find a guy you feel the way you should about. :)

    You'll get through it! It's tough, but you can do it!

     
    27.
    Member Icon
    Member
    372 posts
    Helper bee
    historienne       SF/Mendocino

    I agree that successful marriages can be built on friendship rather than passionate love, and that love is a choice and can grow over time, etc etc.  I still don't think you should marry your fiance.  

    In American culture, we generally place a pretty high value on passionate/romantic love.  If that's not what you have with your FI, then you are going to spend the rest of your life with your nose rubbed into a cultural ideal that you want but don't have.  Honestly, it's different having a "best friends" marriage in a culture where that is the norm and people all expect it than in a culture where we are socialized to expect to be passionately in love with our spouses. 

    From personal experience, love is definitely a choice.  But honestly, on the days when it's hard, the fact that my husband makes me inexplicably weak at the knees is pretty helpful in making me want to work through whatever we're fighting about rather than break up. 

     
    28.
    Member
    1,683 posts
    Bumble bee
    Birdie Love    May 7, 2011   CA

    @Subrosa: Well, I have to start off by giving you kudos for the "Arrested Development" reference.

    It sounds like in the long run the best thing for you and your FI is to break it off.

     
    29.
    Member
    1,312 posts
    Bumble bee
    Bubu82    October 1, 2011   Indianapolis, IN

    Try to consider your FI's point of view for a minute. If he knew that you felt this way, would he still want to be with you? I don't know many men who would want to be with someone who is kind of settling for them. (I don't know if settling is the right word, but it's the best I could come up with.)

    If you really feel that way, it's not fair to him for you to continue this. I suggest you talk to him and tell him how you feel. Like bakerella, I don't really think it matters whether you end up with the original boyfriend or not. You need to be fair to this man who is ready to pledge his life to you.

     
    30.
    Member
    5,676 posts
    Bee Keeper
    Lindsay12.31.2010    December 31, 2010   Missouri

    If your fiance was writing this about you, what would you think? If a random stranger was posting this instead of you, what would you advise?

    You deserve someone who makes you weak in the knees - even if it isn't this other guy, you'll find someone else.  In the same breath, your fiance deserves someone who feels that way about him, and he'll find that too.  You need to let him go.

     
    31.
    2,034 posts
    Buzzing bee
    jholler25    May 29, 2011   Fort Lauderdale, FL

    @Amaryllis:  I would maybe agree with you if I had never been in love before, and especially if I never had the love and the fire in my heart that I have for FI.  It's a greater love, much greater than just being good friends with someone and hoping that you can FORCE yourself to love that person more.  If I felt the way OP did or the way you are using as an example to defend her, I would call that settling.  And I were her FI, I'd say "Don't do me any favors."  I would never settle, and could never settle, after finding the love I have with my fiance, the feeling of being soulmates.  It's very obvious to me that she doesn't feel the way someone should feel when they're marrying someone.

     
    32.
    2,034 posts
    Buzzing bee
    jholler25    May 29, 2011   Fort Lauderdale, FL

     

    @Amaryllis:

    I know he does. And I am/have been trying. Believe me, if there was a magic pill that would give me those feelings, I'd take two a day.

    Come on!  You don't have to be Freud to see he's not fulfilling any needs for her, and she should quit dragging this out and let him find someone that he can fulfill some needs for!  At the very least let him find someone that doesn't wish there was a pill to make her love him. If she loved him at all she'd have too much respect for him to even post that

     
    33.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    @jholler25: ... It is the fact that I do respect him that is compelling me to post this under a fake name. I would never say that to his face or  to anyone he knows, or even to my mother.

     
    34.
    Member
    228 posts
    Helper bee
    aguilpul    June 25, 2011  

    Hrmmm...Sounds to me like getting married means a lot to you. You were even capable of breaking up with someone you loved and take a guy you didn't just because you want to get married.

    I'm saying this because sounds like you've made your decision and eventually will break up with current FI. And also because you have to take this into consideration: the fact that you go back with ex doesn't mean that you two automatically are going to get married.

    Are you willing to accept that?

    I agree with many girls here that say that your current FI deserves better, but don't break up with him because of that other guy. Be honest and break up because you don't love him.

    Life is not a big romantic comedy or drama. The decisions you take today will affect your entire life. Think about this veeeery hard, and ask yourself: would it be possible that ex wants me back and said all those things because he can't have me now? Believe it or not, a lot of guys are addicted to drama. Chances are that if/when you two get back together there will be more drama. Just remember why you two broke up.

     

     

     
    35.
    Member
    1,066 posts
    Bumble bee
    basketballwifetobe    April 28, 2012   Connecticut

    @bakerella: I agree with everything you've said. If you are not in love with your FI, you need to break things off. Whether or not you and the other guy work out is inconsequential.

     
    36.
    Member
    8,947 posts
    Buzzing
    Beekeeper
    bells    June 26, 2011  

    Your Fi deserves more than what you are giving him. I think its a bit selfish to stay with him only because you arent sure if you can get with your ex

     
    37.
    Member Icon
    Member
    5,819 posts
    Bee Keeper
    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    @Subrosa: It doesn't matter if breaking up with your fiance doesn't guarantee you will be able to be with this other guy. You shouldn't marry your fiance regardless of what happens with this other guy! If you don't love him, he deserves to find someone who does - regardless of whether that means you don't have a safe relationship to run to. He deserves better.

     
    38.
    Member Icon
    Member
    5,819 posts
    Bee Keeper
    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    @Beluga: HAHAHAHAHA love the pic. CLASSIC.

     
    39.
    Member Icon
    Member
    23 posts
    Newbee
    Subrosa    February 6, 2016  

    @bells: It's not really that I'm staying with him because I'm not sure whether I can get with my ex. In fact, I'm trying to go about it right now with the opinion that I for sure cannot get with my ex. It's very possible that the love he was talking about was all meant to be past-tense.

    I am staying with FI now because I am still grappling with the question of whether chemistry is necessary for love. Whether breaking up with him will wind up being the worst decision I've ever made. Whether I will ever find anyone else who feels about me the way FI does--and therefore, would it be better to be with someone who I am not "in love" with but who is in love with me, than it would be to be with someone who I am in love with, but who is NOT in love with me? Maybe I am just not being appreciative enough of how good FI really is. Maybe I only want someone else because of cold feet/fear related to my broken home growing up and FI's parents getting divorced this year because of his mother's long-term affair with an old boyfriend.

    If I did break up with FI and then later realize we were indeed meant to be together, and my feelings are a result of fear, he would probably take me back--but I don't think it would be worth the pain it would cause him, and I know he may never trust me again. So I am trying to tread VERY carefully until I figure stuff out with me.

     
    40.
    Member
    6,816 posts
    Busy
    Beekeeper
    moderndaisy    June 2010  

    It almost sounds to me like this guy from your past is 'first husband' material while your current fiance is 'second husband' material. Why not just fast forward to second husband? He is going to treat you like a princess for the rest of your life and like you said he's your best friend. The grass may look greener right now, but I just get a feeling it won't be if you jump the fence.

     

    Reply »

    You must log in to post.





    Visit our sister sites eHarmony
    Online Dating
    eHarmony Advice
    Dating Advice
    Project Wedding
    Wedding Songs
    JustMommies
    Pregnancy Calendar
    Copyright 2004-2012, Weddingbee.com
     

    Find your vendors on Weddingbee

    Real reviews from brides in your area!

    Favors by Weddingbee

    • Favors by season

    Shop Now ยป

    Find Registry Find Registry Find Registry

    More
    User Posts Today
    Lyndzo 52
    Brielle 41
    mypinkshoes 34
    Cady 32
    fivemonthsnotice 32
    AshleyR83 30
    ndreighton 27
    rebwana 26
    funkymunky85 26
    fishbone 26

    Emotional

    User Posts Today
    funkymunky85 9
    ebotlsrm 5
    Lyndzo 4
    mightywombat 3
    AshleyR83 3
    rebwana 3
    jules28 3
    melisslp 2
    sara_tiara 2
    bookworm88 2
    More