Post # 1
I see a lot of posts a about 2 photographers but they are mostly about photogs who come with a second person.
Has anyone had 2 photogs that didn’t work together, but for their different styles?
I have hired a photo journalist who’s photos are amazing but he often dosn’t have the classic shots. Now I want a more classical wedding photog for portraits and group shots. Would the ohotgs be insulted? Has anyone had this problem?
Post # 3
Have you checked your photographer’s contract? Mine says that my photographer will be the sole photographer for the event.
Post # 4
I don’t think it does. Plus he’s the one that let me hire him under false pretenses, so if he’d have a problem with me hiring someone else to take portraits that he specifially told me he does not do, after I paid him a deposit, than I think I’d sue.
Post # 5
I personally wouldn’t do this. Why can’t you just ask this photographer to take a few of the portrait style shots that you want anyway? I would think that he would be more open to that than having a 2nd photographer around…
Post # 6
He kindof agreed to do it, but I felt like I was pusuading him and bending his arm backwards. I don’t trust that he’ll take the time to get good portraits becasue it’s not his thing. If he dosen’t want to be doing it why would they be any good? Plus it’s not just a few that we want. We have a good 2 hours allocated for this becauce we’re spending a small fortune on the location. I think he wouldn’t mind since he didn’t want to do portraits so why would he mind if I got someone else to do it and he could bugger off and do what he wants?
I definitely don’t want 2 photogs there all day that would be an overkill, just ceremony (maybe) and after ceremony (for portraits).
Post # 7
@Atalanta: He really should have been accommodating and just agreed to do the portraits instead of you having to convince him. I get that photographers sometimes think that you have hired them for that particular style but at the same time you are a paying customer so they really should just oblige.
If he is OK/agrees to a 2nd photog then get it in writing, even if it’s an email.
Post # 8
If you no longer like the style of the photographer you hired, you should forfeit your deposit, cancel your contract in writing, and book someone else. However, your wedding is very soon, and I don’t know that you can find a photographer so soon that is very good, admittedly.
How did he lure you to sign under false pretenses? Did you see his work prior? If posed portraits are important, why did you hire someone that generally doesn’t do them?
I also feel two hours of portraits after the ceremony is a *long* time. What will your guests be doing? If you are efficient in taking photos prior to the ceremony, you shouldn’t need two hours afterwards to do the formals.
Post # 9
I don’t think he would have a problem with it if you pay for his time during the portrait session but let him just go onto the reception and not be present.
Post # 10
@Atalanta: I would definitely check into it and have everything in writing. The second photog might not like having the original one there. My contract also states we cannot have another photographer there. However, my package is from a couple, so I will have 2 photogs working together.
Post # 11
We actually hired one photograher he is a more classic photographer and we just finished going over our plan for the wedding day and he mentioned he would be bringing a second shooter with a more artistic view. I think it’s great and if i were you i would ask if you could have a second shooter.
Post # 12
@Atalanta: Most photographers won’t allow this. If you wanted a second shooter you could talk to them about someone they know who he might be able to bring as a second shooter, but most photographers don’t let you hire an additional photographer on your own. There are a lot of reasons – they’ve never worked together, they’re both going to approach it trying to shoot a full wedding for their portfolio (i.e. both going for the same shots instead of complimenting each other as a team), second shooters images are in direct competition with the first photographer you hired, etc. What does your contract say?
I think you mentioned you’re having a destination wedding with less than 100 guests right? In that case I really don’t think you need a second shooter – you’re going to be getting a whole lot of images of the same thing. If you didn’t trust the photographer you hired to get everything you wanted you probably shouldnt have hired him.
Post # 13
I think two photographers trying to get guests attention during portraits is going to be like watching a train wreck happen. There’s a reason why photogs only generally work with second shooters that they have selected – communication and coverage is key. You need to be 100% upfront with both photogs before moving forward with this. Most don’t allow it at all….for good reason.
Post # 14
It’s not that I don’t like the style of the photographer, I love it, but the thing is it is artsy, which is good, but now I’m sacred I’m gonna miss out on some classic must have shots like first kiss and exchanging of the rings. When I talked to already deposited photog he said he likes to hide and not be seen, the thing is that our venue is so small he cannot hide. So I’m all for having him hide, if I can have someone else taking the shots I want. He seemed to hate the idea that he’d have an aisl seat reserved.
As for portraits, I told him what I wanted via email and even talked to him about TTD, which he seemed really enthusiactic about (if that’s not portrait shots than I donno what is) but when we talked to him in person he was like no I don’t do portraits. That’s why I feel as if we hired him under fals pretenses.
I guess I’m not too worried about him, honestly I think he’d be relieved, it’s photog #2 that I’m worried about. How would I go about someone?
Post # 15
@Atalanta: You don’t need to reserve an aisle seat for him. We need to be up and moving during the ceremony, very discretely, around the sides and back of the ceremony location. Don’t reserve a seat for him or expect him to sit during the ceremony. That’s generally not done.
He doesn’t mean that he literally “hides” in a venue, just that he is at more of a distance and doesn’t interfere.
Have you seen an entire wedding shot by him? Was it missing photos of the ring and the kiss? If not, don’t worry about it. He will be accustomed to getting those images.
An artsy/photojournalist photographer will still take photos of the kiss, ring, and other events as they naturally happen. They may not do many posed portraits, true. Did you see posed portraits or trash the dress images in his portfolio?
I think there is some major miscommunication going on between you and the photographer. You need to sit down, read your contract, and talk to him. If you do not want him to be the sole photographer, you should cancel on him and lose your deposit.
Even if he is okay with another shooter that he does not know, finding another accomplished shooter that is okay with this would be difficult.
Post # 16
Yes, that’s what kinda bothers me is that those pics were missing. Basically if he doesn’t get it right he deletes it. I appreciate that he’s so choosy, but I’m seriously loosing sleep over this.
The aisle seat came up in conversation when we talked about where he’d be during the ceremony. He said he usually hides out in the corner next to the alter. That’s great except that we aren’t getting married in large church. We explained to him that there is no room to be on the side because that’s where the harpist would be. He refused to go anywhere near the center aisle. But it is the ONLY aisle. So I said that he could pretend to be a guest, since he seemed to be really having an issue of not having somewhere to hide. I wasn’t implying he sit there the whole time.
So yeah most photogs will try to “hide” as best as possible but this one I think is dead serious about being hidden.
So I know photogs can be intrusive, but without being a bit intrusive you’re not gonna get all the shots. And I really donno where he’ll go at our venue. He’s never shot there before and didn’t seem too enthusiastic to go check it out, so :/