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Ugh, I have to send out my invitations and I've been postponing because of one person (well, kinda 2 peope).
Here's the thing... I hate hate hate my boss. I've never been the type to use the word hate. But she's a horrible, vile woman... when it comes to me, to everyone else in the office she's a very nice person. But for 3 years now she's been making my life miserable. Showing up hours late, throwing all her work on me, taking 3 hour lunches, drinking on the job (at least 3 x's a week). I'm the punching bag. She's best friends with my other co-worker so she's mean to me too. I've complained about it before, here on weddingbee. Our executive director doesn't understand. In fact, if anything, he believes what she reports to him so I'm the bad employee. He told me, indirectly but very clearly, that I have to invite these two horrible women to my wedding. At the time I agreed. I sent out the STD's, they got them, and they were being really nice to me around that time. But they've since gone back to the regular, gang up on Jen phase and its unbearable.
I DON'T WANT TO INVITE THEM! But I have to now! I know what you're thinking, they won't come right? WRONG. I overheard them discussing their plans to go. I hope they've changed their minds. Why on earth would they want to come? How do I make sure they don't feel obligated to come?
Please tell me I'm not the only one who has people on their guest list that they don't want to be at their wedding!
Oh goodness, I'm sorry. That's so not okay it's ridiculous. The thought that you would be pressured to inviting them to your wedding by an executive supervisor is awful.
I don't know what to tell you - I can understand not wanting them there, but I think it will make your work life miserable if you don't.
Look for a new job?
Good luck. :( What an awful situation.
Listen to me carefully... as I would shake you if I saw you in person.
THIS IS YOUR WEDDING DAY! You are the one getting married and if they are people that you feel would make your day ANY LESS THAN PERFECT, they should not be invited. I understand the crappy office politics and that it will be very uncomfortable if you do not invite them, but from what you're saying I don't see how it could get any worse. As for your boss telling you who to invite to your wedding... he's putting his thoughts into someplace they do not belong.
Sorry for being so brash... but this is something i feel very strongly about. I feel that a wedding day should be nothing but special for you and your FI. I'm sure you could totally make up a believable lie so that you can bump them from the list.
Why would your executive supervisor force you, even if indirectly, to invite them? He's not paying for the wedding so what gives him the right to dictate to you who to invite? I'm sorry you are going through this, must be frustrating and really not fair to you.
I second lilyfaith: get out of there if you can. And if you can, do not invite them. They sound like horrible, vile people. Meanwhile, I suggest reporting everything that happens and if possible, get proof. This is not acceptable at all and sounds like it borders on harrassment.
Are you inviting other people from your office? You don't have to invite any coworkers, but if you are inviting others you would probably want to invite your boss.
give them a fake invite and send them to a park...
sorry to hear your in that situation.. what are the chances of them coming?? 100% 50/50??
How many guests will be at the wedding?
How many people from your office did you invite?
My advice really depends on your answers to those questions...
And why is he okay with her drinking on the job? I mean, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to look into these allegations . . .
Wait, hold up. Your supervisor told you who you should invite?
Not Okay!
Since you already sent STDs, I don't think you can get out of inviting them. Your best bet might be to send the invites reaaaaaaally late in hopes that they will have already made plans.
You dont have to invite anybody you dont want to, how dare your executive supervisor say such a thing? Its not his wedding, you want to be comfortable and happy and want positive vibes on your wedding day, it wouldnt be worth it to me to have someone I dislike at my wedding. My sister has been such a b**** throughout my whole wedding process and im so happy she's not going to my wedding, as for everyone else, they are happy for us and im excited they are attending. A friend of mine said she didnt like my FI for no reason at all, so I straight up told her if she didnt have nice things to say about my future husband then please do not show up at my wedding and fake like you are excited
Wow, it sucks that you are forced to invite people you work with to your wedding. I was under the impression that it's usually at your discretion. I kind of wonder if you really want to keep that job though? If it's making you very unhappy (I know the market is awful right now) but maybe you could start discreetly looking for a new job? If not, seat them far away from everyone else at a table with other people you're not overly fond of and just ignore them perhaps?
Oh, girl, I'm so sorry! I can't believe a superior would actually pressure you to invite them to your wedding!! But I agree with lilyfaith, it might make your work life miserable otherwise. Are you planning to look for a new job? Because I don't know if I could stand that. I wrote a post a whiiiile ago about a girl that's invited to my wedding because when invites went out she was dating one of FI's best friends and they were living together--since then, he's broken up with her, she's moved halfway across the country, and started bad mouthing me every chance she gets. (She's also blocked me on gchat and facebook.) BUT. She RSVP'd yes to the wedding. I'm fairly certain she's planning to come because it's her only good excuse to see her ex....but I have spoken to him about this, and she is going to be uninvited. Awkward, but it's my day, so I don't care. Crazy b****. You don't have that same option, so I say, just send them the invites, ignore them at work as best you can, and you probably won't even see them at the wedding! ((HUGS))
That sounds like a really awful environment to work in. The behavior of your boss is deplorable - three hour lunches? drinking on the job!?!? If upper management won't respond to those issues (and whatever other issues there are), maybe you should consider looking for a different job
. Normally I would advocate for inviting your boss just for "polite-ness" sake, but I would refuse! It's hard now that they got the STD cards though....
Wait, why do you have to invite her? Because the other supervisor said so? Last I heard, this wasn't his wedding. I most likely wouldn't invite anyone from the office and call it a day, BUT since you already sent out STDs, I guess you're kind stuck with it :(
I had one person I absolutely did not want at the wedding, but we had to invite him because he was my mom's BF (and still is). He's insulted me in public numerous times, caused scenes at family gatherings and pretty much ruins everyone's time whenever he's around. BUT, he came to our wedding, and he was fine. I honestly barely even noticed he was there. So keep that in mind :)
Can you seat them under a speaker in a corner? And get their dinner order wrong? And request that the bar not serve them?
If you're really being strong armed into inviting them, .... eh. I'm petty sometimes, much as I hate to be.
Since you sent out save the dates, i think you're stuck. Also, it could make your work even more miserable, so it might be best to just suck it up and invite them. Onyour day you probably won't even notice they are there, and will be too happy and busy to pay them any attention.
Since the STD's already went out, yeah, you'll need to send them invitations. Just make sure to seat them far away from your table and you'll only have to greet them once or twice (receiving line and reception). If they cause any problems, you can designate a "bouncer" to escort them out.
You should NOT have to invite people from work to your wedding. I am not inviting anyone from work to ours!
Wow, what an awful situation. If you're inviting anyone from work, then I don't think you have a choice but to invite them. Not because that's the right thing to do, or because your supervisor says so (both clearly in the wrong here) but just because they've made it clear they will make your life more difficult if you don't. I don't believe in yielding to bullies, but I'm a pragmatist, and regardless of what they should do or have a right to do, the fact of the matter is that they can make your life even more miserable for 40 hours a week.
If you feel this strongly about not wanting her there, I think your best bet would be to try to uninvite your entire office guest list as a group. Singling out one horrible woman won't make her any nicer - it will only make things worse, and this is your job we're talking about. Gather everyone from work, tell them that you need to cut your guest list due to sudden unanticipated wedding budget cuts due to medical expenses/lost jobs/surprise pregancy/robbery/rescuing a nigerian prince/whatever ridiculous excuse you need, and that sadly that means none of them can come to your wedding. Explain you feel just awful since you'd already given them save the dates, and that you'd love to pay for an office lunch with food from some great local takeout place either before the wedding, after the wedding or after the honeymoon.
There's no clear win here, but if your choice is to make your work life even more miserable, have this awful woman at your wedding, or miss out on having a few of your work friends attend, this is the route I'd choose. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
I would not, invite someone i did not want at my wedding. I don't care what the executive director says. It is only a job and there is nothing he can do to you if you don't. I've never heard of such a thing. Also i don't believe becuase your inviting some friends from work that you have to invite everyone, i don't like everyone from work so i'm not inviting the ones i don't like including supervisors. If the job is already miserable look for a new job after the wedding. I am soo p****d off for you.
Sorry- improptu meeting. I'm gonna respond to everyone now!
@lilyfaith- I would love to find a new job. Its hard, duh, lol. But I also don't want to start a new position and take 2 weeks off. So after the wedding, I'm gonna try my hardest to find something. I'm miserable.
@vanilla frosting- I wish it was that easy. I agree with you, this should be MY day. But I just pray they don't come. I am faithful that they won't.
@kiki82- he's always trying to make us like each other. As if he were our guidance counselor in HS. Its annoying. And he has no idea how horrible it is. Because I've never told him, since I'd automatically be ganged up on.
@MissHelen- I haven't written down the occurences, but you're right, I should. I have taken pictures of her refrigerator though. All that's in there is vodka and rotten food, yum.
@bride colleen- I'm inviting 3 other people from the office. I really can't get away with not inviting them since one of them is the executive director. And I have to invite him because my FI has a great relationship with him (its a strange dynamic).
@ccranetobe- I would love to have the balls to do that. I always envision doing mean things back to them. So far, all I have done is tear up a returned lettered she sent to someone. It was an important letter though! :)
@mightsapphire- I'll be inviting 170 people, 5 of which are from the office.
@goldilocks1107- he's not aware of the situation. He doesn't work in our office, we can go weeks without seeing him.
@teaadntoast- that's a good idea, I'll send it in May. I'm really gonna do that. Hopefully they don't ask about it beforehand!
@tammyt12- wow, why has your sister been being so mean? And your friend, that's easy to not invite. I wouldn't have a problem booting a friend, especially for something like that! But a boss and co-worker is a little different.
@hoshiku- I want a new job so badly! It sucks because I love the work and there aren't a lot of programs like this. But I'll keep looking. The only thing that keeps me from felony assault is the fact that I do have my own office.
@mrsmyphd- I remember that post! I can't believe she wanted to come to the wedding. Some people will go great lengths just to not miss anything.
@evabostonterrier- I know, I am told I have the patience of a saint. But really, I probably just have high blood pressure. Because my blood boils but I just suck it all up, and smile. I'm the fakest person I know at this place! Lol.
@miss chapstick- How does your Mom deal with him when he's like that? I'm hoping, if for some DUMB reason they come, I can just ignore them too. In fact, I know I will, and it would give me a perverse pleasure to do so.
@daydreamwanderer- another good idea. I'm seriously going to seat them at the worst table. Oh god, that excites me so much!
@troubled- office politics is a sick thing huh? I wish I could just tell them to go F themselves. I literally have had dreams doing just that!
I seccond ccranetobe's suggestion - send them to a park far far away .
then i'd say QUIT!
Seriously though, i would have never invited them in the first place. I really don't like bullies so i'd just squash that. but since you've already sent the STD, if you don't have any plans to get a new job, they will make you EVEN MORE MISERABLE if you don't actually send them an invite. What's better for you? Sticking it to them and sticking to your own guns andh aving a stress-free wedding but horrible week back to work? Or having those two hags at your wedding?
I would pick the spiteful route and keep a close watch on their HR behaviors upon my return, and keep the local slimebag attorney's number on file. It's really lose lose. Sorry girl..
@di5308- you're right. I think they'd be even more horrible to me, that was my thinking. And now, thanks to you all, I plan on seating them as far away from me as possible, at the crappiest table and I'll ignore them the entire night. Except my boss is a dancer so I'll make sure everyone makes her feel uncomfortable on the dance floor- my peeps would do that for me!
@judya64- thanks for being pissed off for me! Lol. I'm pretty pissed too.
@melissabegins- I have been looking for a new job. Not as vigorously as I'd like to, just with my wedding being so close. But I so desperately want a new one. I'm also moving this summer. I'm stuck in a lot of ways with this one!
My sister has always been the evil one, she got married last year and of course I did everything for her and now she's too good to be involved with my wedding planning or wedding in general, true colors!
you and me, we can look for jobs together! :) GOOD LUCK!!! I like your plan to seat them far away.. preferably near the kitchen, bathroom, or highway.
Wait, what? DUDE - eff your supervisor. Ditto teaadntoast.
Since your supervisor is such a $h!+head, I would sent him the invite & put their names on HIS invite to show he's responsible for them. Ok, maybe I wouldn't have the stones to do that, but I'd think about it... LOL
I need to look for a job too, sucks being in the middle of nowhere for the hub and hating your boss and needing a new job
Ugh. That sucks! Can you just lie and blame it on your parents? Like come into work one day and act really upset, and tell these women that you're extremely embarrassed but your parents are forcing you to cut your guest list to family only and you can't invite them anymore?
finding a new job takes awhile...seriously, start now...it sounds like you are 'stuck' in that job, and you will start off your marriage so much happier w/o it!
Just imagine...getting a new job offer before wedding...handing in 2 weeks before honeymoon...bwhah haha
Most likely, if you start applying for a job now, you wouldn't have to start until after your honeymoon, anyway. If you have a new job lined up, then you could get away w/ not inviting them.
In the meantime, you need to document your complaints. Make sure they are written to the exec. Then, if he doesn't respond, go to the next level or HR, and you will have written documentation that you tried to resolve it yourself. Drinking on the job is NOT OK.
This is going to sound awful but would it be possible to buy tickets to some thing they REALLY like and then mention in the office how you have these tickets that you just can't use. Or something like this where they would have something else to do the same night?
Or don't send an invite and then if they ask tell them it got lost in the mail. If you are looking for a new job anyway who cares if they are mad at you. They cannot fire you for not inviting them to a wedding. You can sue for that.
What size company is this?
Are other employees you like invited?
Do you have HR representatives?
Most companies (at least larger ones) these days either have hotlines or employees that ONLY deal with these kind of issues.
Your boss and your executive supervisor are WAY out of line. 1) Drinking on the job is NEVER OK. 2) Not showing up to work is NOT OK. 3) Belittling her employees is not OK. Unfortunately, piling work on you is kinda a gray area, but her treatment of you is NOT OK. For your executive to know about this, especially the drinking, and to in turn reprimand you is NOT OK. They should BOTH be punished or fired.
HUGGS jennifer, i def have two people on my list...
i teach sunday school at my home church... we have a really big church and the pastor of the elementary school program is a (BEEYOTCH)... she should not even be called a pastor, she gossips and talks trash about all of the youth girls and the adult females in our english ministry congregation.
we've NEVER had a relationship outside of when i taught summer school during college for her program... and even then she HATED me and just used me because she needed the resources...
she was one of the ppl who said "YOU BETTER INVITE ME TO YOUR WEDDING"
and i'm like what?! the first time i brought FI to my home church, she pulled me aside and says "you know the thing i worry about with caucasian guys *i got a korean church* is their infidelity"
!!! she tells me that my caucasian bf would cheat on me and i should be careful... and now she expects an invite to our wedding?!
i can't NOT invite her cuz then it would make it super awkward at church, which is a HUGE part of my life... but i can't STAND that we're going to have someone that i HATE and that FI doesn't much care for...
Yup, I'm trying to decide whether to invite my boss too. He doesn't have any reason to believe that he's invited, and if he asks, I'll just say we had to keep it to close friends and family...
Half of me wants to invite him, just so that things here are easier if he finds out.. but the other half of me doesn't want him to even know about it...
OMG I would quit today if I were you. NO job is worth that you poor thing! I just cant even believe this. Thats completly abuse I dont care what anyone says, forced to invite them to your wedding? What are they smoking? Omg so insane go look for a new job RIGHT now!! Seriously!!
@tammyt112- that does suck! It hurts even more when you extended yourself to help her for her wedding not long ago. I'm so sorry to hear that.
@melissabegins- good luck looking for a job. I really hope find a great one :)
@dancy905- wouldn't it be awesome if we all lived in a world where we really could be that ballsy? I freakin wish!
@troubled- by the middle of nowhere, you mean there's no job opportunities for you?
@snmcdowell- theoretically I could do that. I love the idea. But I'm the worst liar. And honestly, even if it was true, they wouldn't believe me and they'd make me pay for it here at work.
@cannotwait- you have a great point. I would love to find something before the wedding. I just can't wait to resign! They're gonna be so screwed because I do all their work.
@adidas.angel- that would be a great move. But I'm brizzoke! Lol.
@klp2010- its a large company, but the program is small. We're the only 3. So if there was any complaints, they'd know it was coming from me. Super screwed. Oh, and the executive doesn't know about her behavior. He works on a different floor, barely supervises. We'll go weeks without seeing him. But she has to report to him periodically.
@missyjyc- OMG, she's ridiculous! I would seriously not invite her (haha, funny cause I'm obviously a push over so I'm probably lying). I can't believe she had the nerve to say something like that to anyone, let alone you who was dating a white man. Guess we're both stuck!
@ella1978- are you inviting other people from the office? If you're not, you don't owe him an invite. But, if you invite him and he doesn't want to show, you may get a good gift out of it! That's so wrong, but its true :)
@lovespearls- thanks for the support :)
What I would do is start looking for a job now and apply, there's always a little negotiation on when you can start, just explain your position after you are hired...
Even though you sent the STD, I wouldn't invite them. Etiquette doesn't apply to those who harrass you. If the supervisor has an issue, tell him he doesn't have the ability to dictate who you invite to your wedding. Lastly, get some proof of your current boss drinking. Also, if there is a suggestion that you could be terminated, I'd seek free legal advice.
@beekiss2- thanks. I have been collecting proof. I can't be terminated so I'm not worried about it. We're unionized. And there have been no actions taken against be, in their eyes at least!
Yeah, I'm inviting 5 people from the office.. who could be quiet about it.. but part of me feels bad for not inviting him, but I'm not inviting the whole office, just people that I'm really close too.
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