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If your sister didn't have you in her MASSIVE bridal party cos you weren't gonna fit into a Vera Wang dress, she has no right to expect to be in your bridal party! She sounds incredibly shallow! If you want her in your wedding ask her, if you're doing it cos you feel like you should - Don't! You certainly don't owe her anything, especially if she's going to treat you so poorly!
That's horrible! I can't believe she would treat her own sister like that! She had 14 bridesmaids and defintiely had room for you. I would never ask her to be in my bridal party. She does not deserve that honour as she has treated you horribly and put you in a really awkward position at her wedding. If you feel you are close now and this is behind you then go ahead and ask her, but if it still hurts you and you still feel like there are issues between you two then I would just let her attend as a guest and not mention anything. I'm so sorry you were treated like that!
Don't do it out of obligation, she will only stress you out! I myself have a sister I am not close with and I know the hurt that can linger from being "wanted/accepted" by your sister. My advice is to be content with the relationship you two have and leave it at that. I don't think all sisters are meant to be close and you don't have to have her in your wedding just because she is your sister. It sounds like her being there will be just the right amount of presence for you that day. I hope that helps and good luck, you'll make the right decision!
I don't have a sister, so maybe my opinion doesn't matter as much.. but the only bridesmaids I want are people who I love and accept for who they are! They certainly are not there out of any sense of obligation.
lol program passer outer.
Don't ask her just because you think you should. You shouldn't.
Hellllll no. Your bridal party is supposed to be people who love and support you. She does not sound like she will be passing out loving supportive vibes.
Unless you WANT her in your party, don't ask her. It sounds like she would just cause more drama anyway and end up making your day (and the days leading up the wedding) a nightmare.
I would try to base your decision on how you feel about her and your relationship NOW. not based on past events (although what she did to you was really crappy, and you deserve to be hurt about it, for sure). If you WANT her to be in your wedding, and if you think having her in your wedding will make the day more meaningful to you, then ask her. If having her in your wedding isn't going to make you happy, then you shouldn't. I doubt she's EXPECTING to be in the ceremony. The day is about surrounding yourself with people you love and people who will enhance your joy.
Do you have other children in the family? Maybe her kiddos could be in the wedding, and then you could feel like you are including her....and maybe it will help continue to improve your relationship. But again, if you don't want her kids in your wedding, don't feel obligated.
I think it depends. I wouldn't want to stir up trouble if it were me, so I voted "other". I think you probably should try to be the bigger person, but you should not have her in the party. So I would try to find a way to exclude her without being as obviously mean about it as she was. So say you have three best friends- just choose those three and no one else, that way you can gracefully say "Oh, I'm just having my three best friends- the four of us are inseparable!" or something. If you also have a big party and it's something like all your sisters except her, your friends, a cousin or two, and you dog walker, but you still exclude your sister it will look classless. Don't ask her to pass out programs or anything passive aggressive like that. The best revenge is showing everyone that you are better than her. Think about it- do you want people to come away from your wedding thinking that you were a beautiful, elegant, kind and classy bride, or do you want them to come away feeling awkward and uncomfortable because you used your wedding to dredge up old hurts and get your revenge.
Like I said- you don't have to have her in the wedding party. I don't think I would have her in my party if it were me either. However, don't make a big show about it. Just pick a small party of people who mean a lot to you, and don't do anything to emphasize that your sister is not there. Don't go around telling the story, and don't try to publicly humiliate her (as tempting as it may be!)
Bridal party members are {theoretically} those people that are closest to you. You and your sister =/= close, therefore I wouldn't ask her. I personally wouldn't want someone like that sharing the most intimate time in my life. And in my opinion, it has nothing to do with "being the bigger person," it comes down to the people that mean the most to you, and it would seem that your sister isn't one of those people (which is totally fine lol, I don't want that to come off as a bad thing lol).
I think having her in the wedding will cause more drama. Although she might cause drama because she isnt inthe wedding. However my response to her would be "you arent really in my day to day life so therfor I dont see the need for you to be in my wedding"... :) but thats just me
call me a biatch or whatever u want. but if i were in your shoes, i wouldn't have her in my wedding party. and u shouldn't either!
Oh I am such a bad person, my instant reaction was to tell her that she "is too small" and that she would "ruin your wedding aesthetic."
But seriously.
Don't even bring it up to her, don't ask if you don't feel the love. It's not about how someone looks, it's about how they support you & the choices you make in life.
Thank you bees so much for your honest advice. I wouldnt say our relationship is anywhere near perfect now but it has gotten alot better.. although she still has not and I dont think ever will apologize for what she did. It still hurts and its still something I resent.. and honestly I think its something I will always resent.. because being the youngest and the only sibling left out, pretty much tore my heart out. My SO doesnt think I should have her in the wedding but in a sense I feel like by not having her in my wedding im doing the same thing to her she did to me (even though it probably wouldnt affect her the way it affected me).
I only have two older sisters and a brother and my SO only has a younger brother.. so the girls I would have would be my best friend, my sisters, and four of my So's and my very good friends. (So it would be 7 girls total.. I know a pretty big wedding party for only 75-80 guests).
I think you should ask her if all your other siblings are in the party. I think much more internal damage can be done just by being the bigger person. I would keep her at a distance though. Definitely let her know its not her wedding and she's just there for your support.
It all depends on if you're interested in creating a stronger relationship with her. If you'd like to have a better relationship, then you're probably gonna have to be the bigger person and include her. If building that bond isn't important to you, or if you don't think having her in your wedding party would help that, then you're free to exclude her. I can't really see anyone telling you you're wrong. They might not agree with your choice, but I wouldn't call it wrong. I have to be honest, I'd be just as hurt as you were/are and I probably wouldn't include her. I'm not a vengeful person, I don't hold grudges, but there are things that are just hard to get entirely past, and that's one of them.
Personally, I would ask her to be a bridesmaid just because it might cause more drama if you don't. I have a sister who is very selfish and vain like yours seems to be and I know how difficult to deal with she must be. But, if you do ask her to be a bridesmaid it doesn't mean that you have to help her with anything. Tell her what dress she needs to order and give her a date it needs to be ordered by and then that's it. If she doesn't order it in time, too bad, she can't be a bridesmaid because it'll ruin the aesthetic of your wedding.
Well, that's what I would do anyways. I hope everything works out for you!
That's horrible! I am so sorry that she did that to you, Ren!
I would not include her in your bridal party. I don't see this as a rengeful thing. To me, I only wanted people who cared about FI and I in the bridal party. I feel like your bridesmaids should be there to support you, not cause you stress or sadness. Don't include her in the bridal party, but ask her if she would like to hand out programs (kidding, sorta :))
Is it possible to have her kids in the wedding in place of her? This way, you're not totally excluding her from the festivities, but you're letting her know that you're not quite over what she did to you. I absolutely don't blame you for not wanting her in the wedding. The reasons she gave were absolutely horrible, and I can't believe she did that to her own sister!
Absolutely do not include her. She sounds awful.
Similar story:
I was my sister's MOH and — because I broke off my former engagement and she disagreed with my decision — she not only replaced me with her boss, but she didn't even have the respect for me to tell me herself (my mom did). She begrudgingly invited me to the wedding only after my mom bullied her. Everyone was asking me the same thing they were asking you and I just replied, "that's an answer only she can give you." In the end, she looked like a raging ass, as I'm sure your sister did.
That said, my decision to NOT invite her to my wedding was quite easy, and the best decision I ever made. My mom tried to bully me into sending her an invite, and that was NOT working on me.
Stick to your guns and don't include anyone you don't truly want to stand up for you. I think it would be more drama to pretend everything's OK and you want her as a BM.
GOOD LUCK!
I agree with a couple of the PP that you should base your decision on how your feel about your sister NOW, and also on whether or not it would be a step backward in your relationship with her if you did not include her. I personally do not believe in "an eye for an eye" when it comes to family. I think only you can make this decision, but definitely include her only if you feel that she is one of the women you want to honor by having them stand and support you on your day. If you don't feel that your sister is capable of that, then don't include her, but perhaps make sure it is clear to her that it's not to "get back at her". You should be honest with her that you still feel hurt about her not including you.
You do realize though.. if you don't include your stster, everyone is going to ask HER why she wasn't in the wedding party... I mean, I would just hate to have you look bad. Although, "because my sister is an evil witch who didn't have me in her bridal army because she thought I wouldn't look good in the dress" is a pretty good reason. :)
I wouldn't ask her - not because she didn't ask you to be in her wedding, but because she doesn't sound like the kind of person that would be at all helpful or supportive, and you don't need that in your bridal party.
Your bridesmaids need to be girls that you love and that love you back - don't ask her just because you feel obligated!
Ren,
What I want to say about your sister is not proper to type.
I hope you have a more amazing and lavish wedding than she even came within a mile of.
I say EEEF her! Only put her in the party if you want to.
Can't wait till your engagement!
Xx
Audrey
I would have voted No, but I felt the "payback" part was a bit too strong. Have BMs who are close to you and who will be helpful.
haha you should tell her that the bridesmaid dresses you picked are suited for "younger girls" and therefore she can't be in your bridal party... a nice slap in the face to the size 16 vera exclusion.
I would just not have her but not make a big fuss about it. You want someone who is going to support you on your big day to be a maid. I wouldn't throw that she didn't ask you to be in her wedding. This will give you an opportunity to act like an adult.
how about a compromise: include her kids in your wedding party. That way, she can still be a part of the "wedding party" events but won't be so close to you as to cause drama with the decisions. And if anyone asks why you didn't include her with the bridesmaids, you can offer a reasonable answer like "Since I asked her kids to be my flowergirls/ringbearers, I didn't want to over burden her...you know how hard it is to be a mom of two little ones." Plus your mom can't fault you for including her grandkids, right? Good luck & keep us posted!
Hahaha.. I'm laughing out loud at the program bit...
If you want to be totally passive agressive about it.. totally go with that method (I'm often passive aggressive, and i think it's hysterical)
But honestly.... only invite the people that are closest to you to be part of your day. If you think that having her be part of the party will be stressful, and you feel like you are obligated to do it.. don't. Pick people who care about you! It's YOUR day, and I feel like she might try to make things about her.
Good luck Ren.
I think this is a decision that you are going to have to make yourself. You don't want to be focussed on the negativity... whatever you feel in your heart is the right thing to do, then i think you should do that. This is your wedding and you should have it the way you want it, she will have to understand either way. GL
My brother and I are not close so he will not be in the wedding party. I feel that the wedding party is reserved for people that are an intimate part of your life. If she is not, then don't feel bad about excluding her. If you are only excluding her to because she excluded you, then that may not be the best reason. You will need to let go of the anger and pain and make the decision based on your own values.
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Ok ladies.. even though Im still waiting I am torn on a subject and I need honest opinions. This is not an easy subject for me so I wanted to turn to the hive first.
Back in 2005 my sister got married in Memphis Tn. She has always been a label person (please dont take this as me knocking on label people because im not)... so she chose to have a Vera Wang wedding. Her dress and all her bridesmaids were Vera. Well it ended up she had all of the siblings (her and her fiances) except for me in her wedding. She told me she didnt feel I was apart of her daily life so she didnt feel it right to have her own sister.. yet she had 14 bridesmaids. She told my mom it was really because I was too big (I was a size 16 at the time) and A- it would throw of the aesthetics of the wedding and B- vera's dresses wouldnt fit me. She told me that she wanted me and my step sister to hand out programs for her almost 600 guests. I told her no thanks.. and i felt it was an insult to me.
Long story short I went after my mom pretty much forced me to go.. and I ended up wearing a pageant dress which was black and turquoise. I felt if I was going to go.. I was going to make a statement. I had people left and right asking me why I was not in the wedding party all night and I had to reply "she didnt feel like I was important enough..". Talk about a kick in the gut over and over again. So now that I know my wedding is coming up.. I have been thinking of bridal party. My sister and I still dont have a very good relationship, although since she had kids almost two years ago it has gotten a bit better. On one hand I feel like I should be the better person and ask her.. but there is still a bit of vengefulness in me that says I should tell her the same thing she told me.. she can hand out programs.
Ladies I need your help!