(Closed) In GIA Certified VS2 clarity or better stones..

posted 6 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Have you ever seen inclusions w/o a loupe on a VS2 or better stone?
    Yes : (5 votes)
    15 %
    No : (28 votes)
    82 %
    I'm not sure : (1 votes)
    3 %
  • Post # 3
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    I have a VS2 and cant find the inclusions with a loupe and the paperwork next to me.  My husband couldnt find it again either even though he was able to see it when the ring was new, super clean, and with the jewelers help.

    Post # 4
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    3618 posts
    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: November 2011

    I have a VS1 diamond and I can’t see any inclusions even when I hold my ring right up to my eye.

    Post # 5
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    72 posts
    Worker bee
    • Wedding: October 2009

    VS2 or better really should be fine, however I suppose some of it may depend on the quality and type of cut. For example, in diamonds with less facets (i.e. emerald, asscher) it may be easier to notice an inclusion as they need to look cleaner to have more sparkle – so the higher clairty the better. Other cuts, like round brilliant, cushion, or radiant (which I have) tend to hide this better.

    Some of it could also be having an eye for it. For example, my diamond is a VVS2 and I noticed the single inclusion on it (a tiny pinpoint in the corner of the diamond) with a 10x loupe, something that usually a properly trained jeweler only notices. The jeweler actually didn’t believe me that I noticed it thinking it was dust or something, but when we looked at the GIA certificate, sure enough it was there! It doesn’t matter to me and you can’t tell at all when looking with the naked eye. I honestly don’t think it would matter at all if it was VS2; there are some diamonds that are SI1/2 where you can’t even notice inclusions unless you magnify. You’ll really just want to see the stone in person and make up your own mind.

    Post # 6
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    385 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: March 2014

    It also depends on the type if inclusion and it’s location, but you shouldn’t be able to see it with the naked eye. Whether or not it’s actually vs2 depends on who is grading it (which is why I’m always weary of eBay).

    Post # 7
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    651 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: May 2012

    My ring is a VS2 (GIA) and eventhough I am critical and constantly look for flaws, I cannot see any with my naked eye.

    Post # 8
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    5668 posts
    Bee Keeper

    I have a VVS1 and I can’t see inclusions with a loupe.

    Post # 9
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    5273 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: October 2009

    I have a VS1 and holding it up really close, can’t see it with the naked eye.

    Post # 10
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    365 posts
    Helper bee

    I had a VS2 and it took me a few months to even find the inclusion with a 30x loupe, but once I did (it was a faint black stripe, very tiny) I could always find it without because I knew what to look for.  It really depends on the inclusion though, you may have a VS1 with a few tiny feathers on the girdle that are impossible to see no matter what.  I think dark spots are always easier to spot than white.

    Post # 11
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2011

    Mine is a VS1 and I can’t see any inclusions. According to the paperwork there is a slight one on the side of the stone but even my jeweler had a hard time seeing it through his loupe. He said he set the stone in such a way that the prongs covered it up, but honestly I can’t tell.

    Post # 12
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    913 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: April 2014

    A lot depends on the size and cut as well. In a smaller round brilliant, no. (I have one that’s an SI1 and I have NO idea where the inclusions are). In a larger stone, or say a step cut (emerald or asscher), it’s possible you could see an inclusion that’s right under the table.

    Post # 13
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    304 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: November 2012

    I have a VS2 and can’t see any inclusions, although the certificate shows you where they are… even with a loupe I still can’t seem them, but maybe I don’t know what to look for…

     

    I think if you’re that worried you should actually SEE your diamond before you buy it Smile

    Post # 14
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: October 2012

    I’ll chime in with much of the same.  I also have a VS2 & can’t see anything with the naked eye or the loupe.

     

    Post # 15
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    1595 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    As long as the stone is GIA or AGS certified you should not be able to see it. I have an GIA SI1 stone and couldn’t even find the inclusion under the loupe- so I guess the person that graded my diamond was more rigid! If you are ordering the diamond online you can always put the diamond on hold and ask the jeweler or Blue Nile to check and see if the diamond is “eye clean” before you purchase it. James Allen has photos of the diamonds so you may be better off purchasing from them.

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