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Hi Ladies- Its been a while since I've been on WB, and how I've missed it so! We just celebrated our 6 month anniversary and now my IL's are visiting. Umm, for 3 weeks. Yes, thats right- 3 weeks, in my house, under my roof, eating my food for 3 weeks. Im freaking out.
I was freaking out from the beginning, but now Im freaking out even more. They are visiting from a country half way around the world- and lets just say, their day to day living is MUCH different than ours. Primarily with food. Ill preface this by saying I have celiac disease, so a lot of food is just plain poison to me- the fact that they dont get that at all makes me a prisoner in my own home. Apparently, "When in Rome..." doesnt apply to them.
It all started yesterday morning- besides coming down to make breakfast and being kicked out of my own kitchen by my ILs and not being able to eat a proper meal until noon (sigh), I announced that I would love to make a meal for them for dinner.
I work from home, so I have the luxury of putting things together throughout the work day. All in all, it took me about 2 hours prep and 2 hours cooking time to make them a traditional North American meal. They left about 11am to take a walk- dinner was on the table and smelling delish at 6:30pm. Guess what? My ILs NEVER SHOWED. Ummm yeah, thats right- MIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was insulted, appalled, offended, pissed and practically in tears. They finally waltzed in about 7:15- went right upstairs, showered and TOOK A NAP. Never once acknowledged I made dinner for them. My DH went up to get them and tell them I made dinner for them. 30 min later, they come down- never touched the one dish I made (which is one of my family fav's- ouch!) got spicy sauces gallore and drowned my meal in all sorts of grossness. They never once said thank you or anything. Oh yeah, and they reheated the take-out in the fridge.
SO, seriously- WTF. Its one thing to come to our home (without an invitiation, might I add) for three weeks- but then to insult me in my own home like that!?!?!?! I would NEVER dream of doing that to anyone....
I called my mom and whispered to her what went on.. I just wish I had her patience and her ability to not care what others think and do- at least shes there to whisper back in my ear that she appreciates me and would never insult me or my hubby that way. I love my parents!! My ILs on the otherhand... well, that's going to take some time........
Thats really rude of them. They knew you were cooking them dinner, did they know what time though?
Doesn't matter bc if you are staying in someones home and they cook you dinner you say thank you! Try the dish, if you would prefer it with some spice ask politey. And if its not your cup of tea, you put up with it. Its one meal!
I am very sorry they did this. Can DH talk to them about how it made you feel? :(
So sorry about this, luckily all my family and my SOs family either live here or have other family that lives here that they stay with when they come into town!
I hope your DH is sympathizing with/for you.
SO, seriously- WTF. Its one thing to come to our home (without an invitiation, might I add) for three weeks-
While your IL's sound rude, where is your DH in all of this? He needs to step it up. Just consider this a lesson learned and limit your visits or if they want to stay this long, they need to get a room.
I understand where you come from with having limited food options for yourself and no one understanding. I think what would be best is to do your own thing and let the IL's do their own thing. As for kicking you out of your own kitchen, take a stand. Better yet, get your DH to take a stand, which is where all this lies.
@Pendola- RIGHT!?!?!? They just dont understand. My ILs have a maid at their house so they dont get the allergy and kitchen issue. I've tried explaining it- my hubby has tried explaining it, and still- they just insist on cooking their own meals at their own times. Ri-damn-diculous. I had to rearrange my whole kitchen- took me 2 days just to make them a "gluten-free space" and what do they do the second they get here? Buy oatmeal, white bread and croissant!!!!!!
@stlginkgo- they did know what time dinner was, but when they got home they said "Oh, we dont usually eat until 8 or 8:30. Never once apologized. See, my ILs are diplomats- moved around a lot and always had people waiting on them hand and foot. My hubby hasnt lived with them since before college and doesnt quite know how to get the point across. Thank goodness he's tried, but still- its not working.
I've made it clear that one week is all they will be allowed to stay in our home from this day forward- and it will be on OUR terms, not theirs.
Yikes, that sucks. And they're diplomats? You'd think they'd have had some lessons in etiquette.
How'd they kick you out of the kitchen until noon? That stinks.
The way to get the point across about meal time is to go ahead and eat at 7 pm with or without them.
How rude is that? You should get up in the middle of the night and hide all your dishes so they can't cook and will have to leave often to eat.
I agree about the meal time- the only thing is, they will be in my kitchen cooking all their gluten containing food and cross contaminating all of my utensils and cookware! Its a real sticky subject... sorry, Im a bit bitter about it too.
@troubled- You'd thing eating dinner with presidents of all different countries would provide them with some sort of etiquette training- but apparently in the one year they've been retired, they've forgotten all of that! Grrrr.
@June- Thats toooo funny!!! I wish I could! My whole point here is they are in MY house- so, MY rules- Im hoping at the end of their three week stay they'll get this once and for all.
Thank goodness we're spending the weekends with my family- I need a break from it all!
Oh, they just walked in the door- and I forgot another crucial thing- they speak a different language. ALWAYS. They rarely speak English around me... UGH!!!!!!! And, they are fluent in English to make it all the worse.
Grrrrrrr....I feel you on the language thing. My IL do that too and also are fluent in English (and have lived at least part of the year in the States for 25 years now). I wouldn't mind so much because I'm trying to learn but they don't even bother to slow down or stop and make sure I'm following and then will sigh and switch over to English. It really bothered me a couple days before the wedding when all the family flew in from another country, I really felt like my MIL or FIL should have made sure I was following if my hub wasn't around and tried to include me but they never would.
What country are they from? Do they understand Celiac Disease? Honestly I would throw away all of the gluten containing food they brought in your house. Tell them again what Celiac's is and what will happen if you eat gluten. Show them what they CAN bring in your house. And if they continue to bring in gluten, then continue to throw it away. They are GUESTS and should behave as such!
MightySapphire- I soooo wish I could- I'll bring this up to my husband. See, last summer, they were here for a month- but we werent married yet, so it wasnt "my" kitchen. They bought and made food here as if it was there own. I dont want to deny them of their own food, the nice person in me at least. But, on the flip side- I CONSTANTLY go with out being able to eat food- like, last weekend we were in Montreal and I had to sit at restaurants with them while they ate food when there was NOTHING on the menu that I could eat. Hmmmm- you've got me thinking! And, its a great idea- Ill have to see how it flies with the hubs.
Troubled- Ugh is right! There is no hope of me learning their language- Rosetta Stone doesnt do Singhalese for Dummies! Its such a hard language, but they insist and it so sucks. Id rather them say in English "Dad, you have a booger in your nose" and laugh than think they're talking smack about me or someone else.
UGHHHHHH. Im sooooo frustrated! I was just getting ready (we're going to their cousin's for dinner tonight) and "dad" just knocked on the door when I was in my underwear- come the F on! If the door is closed, leave us alone!!!!!!!!!!!
Bees, what would I do without you all?!?! I love that we can all vent and be completely supportive of one another! Lord knows we cant vent like this to our DHs!!!!
You're more than welcome to bring your laptop here and do some work! We're not gluten free but I won't stick a croissant under your nose either ;) Sorry you're having such problems with the ILs. Keep sticking up for yourself and keep getting DH in there too. It seems he's likely the one who can communicate best with them. I agree with Mighty, throw their gluten laden stuff out. They can go eat bagels at Timmy's!
Umm on another note, can you send them to spend a few days with other family members? Why do you get saddled down with them for the entire three weeks? I mean, I know it's their son, but DH needs to push them out of the nest here!
Fish and visitors smell after three days, the old adage goes.
Be grateful they live overseas and you won't have to see them often,
For the rest of this visit, just don't let them push your buttons. It's never worth the aggravation to allow someone else to determine your behavior.
O my gosh, that's horrible and so rude! At least they live far away so you don't have to deal with them al the time. I'm more grateful for my in-laws now! They're so nice they would probably eat whatever I made even if it wasn't good!
Ouch! That really stinks!
Can you have you and your husband, mainly your husband, sit down with them and explain? Lay down some ground rules and go from there. Maybe have them "ask to use the kitchen"?
Also, I don't really understand Celiac Disease, but is it bad to be around foods with gluten? I think its a bit much to expect that they would completely adapt their diet to conform to yours unless you can't even be around that type of food. Maybe set aside sections of the fridge/pantry for "Your Food" and "Their Food"
They sound unbelievable. I'd begin ignoring them. Let them purchase their own food and serve themselves. Continue your routine with your husband. I can't get over how they're acting :P
Bakerella- I just may!!!! As long as one of your kitties will give me some love- nothing like a furry friend to put a smile on one's face!!! Oh- I tried Raw Aura and mmmmmmmm! Delish! Great find- thanks for sharing! About sending the ILs to other family members- we were at a cousin's last night, but they already have a guest staying with them for the summer- so they're out of room :-(. I just want them to leave. Grrrrr.
Julies1949- Hahaha!!! This is true! And, when your guests make curry for every meal that peels the wallpaper, that stinks too! You reminded me of a quote I've heard a lot recently by Eleanor Roosevelt, "Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent." Although Im not feeling inferior- they are making me very uncomfortable- and I shouldnt be letting them get to me like that!!
Caszos- The kitchen is tricky because in their culture they make everything from scratch- lots of flour and lots of gluten containing ingredients flying everywhere. You know the "poof" of flour that billows from the bag when you open and close it? Well, Im so sensitive- that if I inhale that flour and it ends up in my stomach- Im sick for weeks. So, its not a good thing for me. That flour can also settle on my cooking utensils and pots- so I have to rewash and sterilize everything before I use it. Or, if she has flour on her hands and goes to get a fork, she'll cross contaminate all the silverware and I have to wash it all again. I spent days reorganizing my kitchen so they have a drawer of stuff they can use (tools, pots, etc.) and I reorganized my pantry so there is one gluten free cabinet that they arent allowed in. I guess my main point is, why the hell should I have to do this? They dont do it for me when I visit them- I can never cook my own meals at their place. Why do I have to rearrange my whole life for them to visit for 3 weeks? Especially when gluten is poison to me and it makes me very ill- I shouldnt have to put up with anything when it makes me so sick, ya know?
Oh- one more thing. To make matters even worse, my MIL has a cold. She is sneezing everywhere without covering her mouth or washing her hands afterwards. Shes coughing constantly too. Now this morning I woke up barely able to swallow- so now Im getting it too. The best part about all this? We're supposed to be going to my parent's this weekend- but they take care of my 1 year old niece, so I dont want them to be sick. AND, my parents are hosting a small reception for us next weekend- so we get them sick, they'll be miserable for our party- and then we'll run the risk of getting all my family and friends sick too! UGH!!!!!! I cant win... seriously, what lesson am I supposed to be learning here that Im completely oblivious to at this point?!?!?
Rent them a long term hotel/apartment! Get them out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok at this point I would pack their shit while they are out and have DH drive them to a hotel. (wouldn't it be nice to actually do that?!)
I so agree - I feel like you need to rent a hotel suite for them and get them out of your house! They're toxic to your health...literally! I'm so sorry that you're going through this! I have no real advice for you unforutnately, but hopefully we're making the days go by quickly at least!
@2PeasinaPod- Just the feedback from everyone is helping, I totally need to vent and all of you are great at listening!
I wish I could pack them up and make them leave- forget the hotel, just get the hell out of Canada!!! DH and I talked again this morning, apparently he has tried talking to them again- but it just goes in one ear and out the other. He says theyre so set in their ways that they dont even care. I resent them for coming between hubs and me.
@you dont make friends w salad- I made the most delish roast chicken (http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/My-Favorite-Simple-Roast-Chicken-231348) and a veggie casserole with crushed ritz crackers on the top. I was so excited to cook them one of my family meals too...
Sorry this is OT, but I'm going to a post-luck baby shower in a few weeks and one of the women is either allergic to gluten or doesn't eat gluten (I forget). The hostess said she's going to bring her own food, but I was thinking of bringing something everyone could enjoy. Is there a link to the veggie casserole with ritz cracker topping?
The casserole wasnt gluten free, unfortunately! Its so hard to prep food for people who dont eat gluten because as hard as you try, you may be cross contaminating without even knowing it. Sometimes I feel bad because people say "I made you a gf ____!" But I still wont eat it because their kitchen isnt gf. Your best bet would be to take a bowl of cut up fruit or veggie sticks with bison chip dip (if you can get bison where you are) or, tostitos nacho chips and their salsa. If you're taking dessert- a snickers bar always does the trick for me! Just make sure your knives and cutting board are well cleaned and no crumbs of any sort on them if you'll be cutting fruit/veggies.
Hmmm.. ok, now Im getting the silent treatment from my FIL. WTF is up with these people? I cant believe this....
Boot 'em out! This is your home and they are incredibly disrespectful. I mean, people do rude stuff all the time, but deliberately doing something your host told you will make them sick...ack! They act like this because I'm guessing they've never had to be considerate of others (as diplomats everyone probably accomodated them).
So true, Bamboo! I wish I could give them the boot- but they have a visa to be here, it took months to get, yata yata yata. Every day feels like 48 hours instead of 24- and I still have 2 weeks to go! How am I ever going to get through?!
I am so sorry you have such rude in-laws! I know what rude in-laws are like, my BIL has 0 manners and no respect for anybody or anything! You need to have a serious talk with your hubby about the situation. You have to do what's best for you. If that means taking them to a hotel, then you need to do it. Pack up their stuff yourself if you have to. Change the locks! Do whatever it takes! I'm so sorry you're going through this. It seems so ridiculous, they're practically treating your house like a hotel anyway!
I have no idea how they would react to having to stay in a hotel!! They are having a reception for us in January in their country, and I just told my DH that I want a hotel when we are there... I dont think I can take "living" with them again.
Im sorry your BIL has 0 manners- it totally sucks. Doesnt everyone know the golden rule? Are there really this many clueless people in our world?
@Arancia:Thanks for explaining! I had no idea, any of the others I have been around must have been mild cases.
I would totally look into getting them a hotel. See if you can find one that is nearby and see what they say. I wouldn't really give them the choice, just say, we have booked you a room down the street for the remainder of your stay.
I think you and hubs need to sit down and give them a talking to. Explain exactly what Celiac disease is, and why you can't be around their food and they can't contaminate your food areas. Tell them that if they can't respect the fact that they may KILL YOU by being ignorant assholes, then they need to get the hell out and go stay in a hotel!!!
But, they are diplomats, so maybe they know someone in Canada they can stay with who are also snobbish and can understand how they think?? Seriously though, I really would tell them they need to respect you and your house, especially the kitchen or they need to find other arrangements
Oh, I am sooo sorry that you are going through this. I have heard of Celiac Disease, but I didn't know much about it. But I know that if someone explained that even small amounts of gluten - even in the air, or on "contaminated utensils and cookware would be a problem, and would make them ill, I certainly would not be making food in their kitchen. I am sorry that your husband didn't just tell them that they couldn't stay with you this visit, and that they would have to stay in a hotel --Before they came! Heck, if they won't leave, -maybe you can!!! How far does your family live from you-Can you suddenly have to stay there for a "certain reason". Maybe your husband will FIND A WAY to get it across that what they are doing is NOT OKAY- (because you aren't there). So sorry. :(
Oh-and I'd have your husband throw out their food-not you, so they can't blame you for throwing the food out.
All of you bees are so great! Just reading your messages and seeing that everyone is on "my side" finally makes me feel at ease and that Im not being a major a$$hole to my ILs(outlaws?)
We spent this weekend with my parents- my ILs were so gracious with them and at their house. I've been telling my mom all of the issues I've been having, especially with the food, so she made a big stink about how she prepared things I could eat and went out of her way to make it known she was doing so. I just love my Mom!
It made me really understand something- my ILs see our home as their home, but they realized they're guests at my parents. What they need to realize is that they are guests at my home too. At least the hubs and I agree that we will never, ever do this again. And any time they decide to visit us- it will be on our terms- and that means, we have a gluten free kitchen. Period. (And, thats just one of the many terms we decided on!)
As for the rest of their time here- God has answered one of my prayers- it looks like I have to be back in DC at my office next week!! So, we can cut my ILs trip a week short and head to DC next Monday. Phew! And, my SIL is coming in Thursday- so at least she'll be here to keep my mind off how much everything is bothering me. Plus, my parent's are throwing us a party this weekend, so we'll be back in my hometown this weekend too.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel!!! YAY! Thank you, everyone, for your support!
Well that's interesting to see, at least they know how to be guests. Too bad they don't feel the need to be courteous to their own family though.
Could you buy them some gluten-free flours and say this is the only flours that can be used here since they like cooking from scratch.
Also, is your husband going to tell them it's a gluten-free kitchen? Someone should tell/enforce the rule.
I agree, troubled. We do have some gf flour ... so Ill need to make it known that that is the only flour allowed in my kitchen!
We're hoping the next time they come to our home we will have moved back to the States (we're in Canada now) so we'll have a completely different place that they didnt contribute their two cents on (they went house hunting with DH when he bought this place before I was in the picture). Hopefully, that will also make them feel like more of a guest in our home too. You know, its funny- before they came here last week, I had visions of renevating our future basement into a small condo for them to stay- well, thats no longer in the picture!!! I do not want to give them a reason to come to our place! Oh man, I sound so mean.
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