Post # 1
Ok…so I am probably suffering from buying my dress early and being unsure of my choice syndrom but I could use some reassurance that I am not completely nuts.
I am getting married at The Cloisters Castle (http://www.cloisterscastle.com) because it is as close as I can get to my home (I’m from Germany) without being inconvinient for my guests. So we found a place where we can bring Europe to us!
The wedding is going to be held in December, since my fiance and I adore winter, its our favoriate time of year and we are styling the reception like a European christmas market. We are putting it together to be very formal but to have a midieval flair (but not theme…just a hint) My fiance is a blacksmith and I’m an anthropologist so we have a passion for eras past.
Well anyway that gives you an idea of the feel we are trying to create, in looking for a gown I had requirements that were rather difficult to accomidate.
I knew I wanted a conservative neckline to accomidate my religious beliefs and I wanted sleeves. So I have found two dresses and thus far I have been pretty happy with them although I have had my doubts. They are sooo unlike all the other dresses I have seen. I know my tastes are usually a bit archaic and unusual but it is just eating away at my confidence. I would greatly appreciate some input from the hive.
What do you guys think?
The first dress still needs some alterations (taken in at the waist some more) it has a cathedral train. I don’t have my shoes on tho or my petticoat so the skirt is pretty flat and long.
The second dress has a cathedral train that is detachable and again I am not wearing my shoes so it is a bit long.
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Post # 3
The second one! It’s very beautiful, and has that hint of medieval without being costume-y. I’m not such a fan of the first one…while this may just be a trick of the Internet, the white satin looks like it’s a bit cheaply made. I also see the second one as being more timeless…it’s definitely something you’re going to look at thirty years from now and still think is beautiful!
Post # 4
I like the second one best and I absolutely love your idea of recreating a Christmas Market. Christmas markets are my favorite part of living in Germany and I start to look foward to them every year once it begins to get cold. Sounds like your wedding is going to be a lot of fun! Will you also have a polter abend? I’d love to hear more!
Post # 5
Like the second one more too! Oh another random idea: Maybe you could do a strapless dress that doesn’t show any cleavage, and then wear one of those lace boleros? Those look so beautiful and yet they are conservative but still timeless and even couture-like. Check it out:
And I LOVE your winter-themed European wedding! That’s an incredible idea!
Post # 6
I really like the idea of a more modern dress with a bolero to tie it all together. I’m not sure how medieval of a theme you are going for, but the dresses look really outdated. And maybe that’s what you’re going for and are comfortable with due to your beliefs, and I don’t want to offend you by calling you outdated! I had a friend a few years ago who got married in a dress like that–she was a really really devout lutheran. I think the dresses are leaning towards "theme" a little bit. Anyways, I hope I wasn’t offensive, you said it’s eating away at your confidence so I’m taking it that you’re not thrilled with the dresses… and I just really like the idea of finding a more modern/conservative dress (lace maybe? there are lots of vintage inspired dresses out there that are still conservatively made so women can get married in temples and conservative churches) with the cool little bolero to cover yourself up a little more. A seamstress can always add sleeves to a medieval-esque empire waisted gown, too!!! More comfortable, too, I’m sure. Dresses with so much beading are scratchy and don’t move much.
But, of the two, I do like the second better. The first one is almost *too* shiny. and I prefer the detailing on the second dress versus the cutout applique style on the first one. I’m a big fan of some sparkly little embellishments
Your market theme sounds so cool! Have you considered hiring a bell choir? I used to be in one and we used to go to renaissance fairs and play music. It’s SUPER cool, I bet it’d tie in perfectly. Canon in D just sounds amazing on bells!!!!
Anyways, I attached a pic of my friends’ conservative dress! I have no clue where she got it though. It had a plain white long ballgown skirt, very full and pretty.
Post # 7
Definitely the second one. It is timeless and elegant and not the least bit cheesy. Just gorgeous! The first one seems more like a flash back to the 80’s.
Post # 8
I think your dress should really be all about you and your comfort. No one is going to look at any bride and think "What a hideous dress!" You said you wanted sleeves, and I think long-sleeved dresses are by default going to look a little dated, but you did say they’re your taste. On the positive side, they have a cool vintagey look to them, and in the context of your castle/medieval themed wedding, could look very cool and unique.
My dress was not particularly trendy– it wasn’t strapless, it had lots of beading, a full skirt rather than a mermaid cut or sheath, and a very long train. Every guest at the wedding said how beautiful it was– one guest (my age!) said it was the best wedding dress he’d ever seen.
If you do decide to keep one of the two dresses pictured, I’d consider adding a crinoline to add some fullness to the skirt.
I do also think that the suggestion of a strapless or spaghetti strapped dress with a long sleeved bolero would be lovely, and if you feel like that would be something that you could feel more comfortable in, you should look into it.
Post # 9
I think amandopolis has a great suggestion about the crinoline. And I’m leaning toward the second one…the back looks so elegant. But that’s partiall b/c I agree that the fabric on the first looks really shiny in the pics…and it’s hard to get an idea of the fit since you say it needs many alterations. If it weren’t for those things, I prefer the simplicity of the embellishment on the first.
Post # 10
I’m not so sure how I feel about the dress choices, but of the two, I’d go w/ the second.
BTW, I’m way jealous of your venue! I wish/hope I can find a castleish place in PA.
Post # 11
I actually think that the first dress is more in with your theme (elegant with a hint of midevil) . The second dress fits you a little better, but once you get alterations on the first one, I think it might be just what you’re looking for. Either way it sounds like you’ll have a blast!! Good luck!
Post # 12
I agree with amandopolis – I think a crinoline would really look nice with those, and I noticed that you mentioned a petticoat, so maybe you’ve thought of this already? I love the train on the second dress–so romantic!
Post # 13
I personally like the second one. Just my two cents!
Post # 14
Thank you so much everyone!
honestly just having some other opinions has helped a bunch to relax about it!
For the longest time I was looking at a more modern dresses and lovely bolero jackets (I adore that look) but I could never find one I liked in my budget or on my rack 🙁
I found that first dress in a small boutique. It was at least 3 sizes too big for me but I loved the long train and the simple detailing on it. Ironically enough I found out later it looks very similiar to my mother in law’s dress which is kinda nifty but at the same time…not so much?
What frazzles me is that it photographs uber shiney!
The second one is more of a sheath design no big full skirt, which after the first one I thought was what I wanted. But I think with the big full train it makes up for that and it is certainly much easier to move around in with the train being removable.
Anyway thank you for all of you ideas and input. My fiance doesn’t want to see my dress beforehand and my family really does not want to be involved so I don’t have anyone to show. You guys are wonderful.
Someone mentioned castles in PA–have you tried Buhl Mansion? There is also Hatley caste for smaller events. I looked at these initially but they were a bit out of the way for my guests. Hope that helps!
Post # 15
Erm… yay! Thx, b/c I’m having a harddddd time trying to tack down a place. I too am going for unique/fun/memorable!
Post # 16
I really adore the second one – mainly because of the color and the little pouf on the top of the sleeves. Plus I just love the back shot – so romantic. I think this style of dress is prettier with off-white / ivory rather than stark white. I think it’s very appropriate for the style of event. You have such beautiful long hair too, I can just imagine it in long wavy curls with a wrap around braid (like Robin Wright in The Princess Bride).
Just realize that the trendy Vera Wang dresses are not for everyone.