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http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/infertility-thread-part-iii
http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/infertility-thread-part-iv
@Mrs. DG: thanks!
Ryna: what makes you think you are? that is so exciting and I hope you really are!!!!!
Jenn23: where are you? are you ok?
Here's my pic. A little late, but I'm still in the TFW, so it works :)
sorry its so blurry! my wine glass is big, and after a couple glasses, things get a little sloppy ;)
@Rosie Girl: that for sure is a Wine Glass:)
I also really hope Jenn23 is doing okay!!!
I'm still not trying to get my hopes up and not even sure if these could be signs, but my bones in my body have been killing me lately. They almost feel like when you get growing pains, but worse!! And I can't seem to make it through the day without taking a nap at some point!!! And I'm not a napper unless it is rainy and cold outside with nothing to do, but the last week I can't seem to stay awake until 10 and then this past weekend I snoozed everyday!! Maybe I'm starting to catch a cold or something! Hope everyone is doing okay, I so wasn't ready to go back to work today. I wish we could have 3 day work weeks and 4 day weekends:)
@Mrs. DG: hehehehe, THANK YOU!!!!
@Rosie Girl: thank you!!!! LOVE the pic! lol. that's what I call the PERFECT sized wine glass! ;)
well, for one I've been wanting homemade potato chips for the past couple days (finally got them made yesterday! and....the almost full quart-ish size ziplock bag is now almost empty...after not even an hour), haven't TOUCHED the chocolate in the desk drawer (typically my "breakfast" hehehehhe), sore boobs (that go from achy to normal to achy to normal to sore then to normal.... can't they make up their mind(s)?!?!?), and the past couple nights I haven't been able to just curl up in bed and fall asleep easily.
plus, my FI is leaning towards "I am", too, which gives me hope!
ohhhh....and I ate almost all the gummy bears I had, a small single-serving of chocolate frozen yogurt and still wanted something to snack on Saturday night, lol. I've also been doing lots more sewing than normal (does that count?)
@stormy9973: JEALOUS!
I've been having THE WORST (yeah, I know, NOT a word :P) time falling asleep at night! and I only napped Saturday because I was up till 1am then got up around, 10 sunday (kids were nice enough to behave for a change, lol). I fell asleep snuggled up next to my FI on the sofa and we ended up sleeping till noon ish, lol.
oh, and I woke up at some time this morning for NO REASON at all!!!! so I snuggled up next to my FI and fell asleep half-on his chest, lol!
Hey guys, sorry I didn't post until now. I was at the New Jersey shore with my hubby this weekend.
@MissGreen I'm so sorry. :(
Bad news. AF showed so this month is out. I'm very depressed and so scared for the cyst surgery. I keep reading how so many woman with large cysts (mine are both the size of oranges) end up having their ovaries removed during the surgery. If he takes out my left ovary, our only option is IVF. Why couldn't the cysts have been on my right ovary which is the side I don't care about since I'm missing my right tube!! Found out at our clinic that IVF costs $15,000. I'm just so devasted, scared and frustrated. I cry so much now and feel such a lack of control over the situation that I'm having trouble concentrating at my job, don't seem to care about anything much these days. All I think about is having a baby and how I just keep having problem after problem and I just feel like I"ll never have a baby. This whole thing and last year has just consumed so much physical and emotional effort and I'm just so fed up and burnt out. It just plain sucks. :( I have to call my doctor's today to tell them AF came and schedule the surgery.
Jenn - hope you are ok!
@stormy9973: & @Zinzerena: Hoping those are pg symptoms! Fingers crossed!
About halfway through the tww. It's actually going by pretty quickly this time, but I'm sure the next week will drag on. Had spotting and some light cramping the last two days again - similar timing to last month. Only had this happen one time when trying w/o help, so if I'm not pg this month, I need to ask the doctor why it's happening - if it's implantation failure, or something else - and if there's anything I can do about it.
@Jenn23: ugh. Is there a way to get a second opinion about the ovary BEFORE the surgery? especially since the doc seems so gungho about doing IVF??? I, personally, would be petrified he'd remove it just so you'd HAVE to do IVF!
I'm so so sorry you're going through all this! I was soooo hoping you'd get a BFP instead of AF! :( (((((HUGS)))))
@MerryC: eeep! I'd be totally panicking! 'cause the last two times that happened to me, I didn't get pregnant! Hoping that's not the case with you, though!!!!! Fingers crossed!!!!!!
and thanks! I actually was counting back the days trying to figure out when I could test before Friday! LOL! I am so hopeless!
@Jenn23: Oh no! I'm so sorry sweetie. You've been dealt a crap hand this year, and you are amazing for just getting through it in one piece. I'll be praying that the surgery goes smoothly and they don't have to remove your ovary. Hope you were able to relax with your hubby this weekend. Love and hugs.
@Jenn23: So glad to hear from you. I am really getting worried! Well, this isn't the news we were all hoping for. I am so sorry. Have you found a doctor for a second opinion? I hate how doctors push for IVF and I would hate for you to have such a drastic surgery if money is the motivation for the doctor. This may seem crazy, but since starting a family is such a life-changing decision, have you thought about moving to a state (like Mass) where infertlity coverage is a law (as long as you live in, work in, and your companys insurance is located in the state). It doesn't work for me because my husband's company is out of state, but eventually I will get my own MA plan and IVF will be a possible option. I am just thinking that I might consider moving if it means starting a family will be at least $15,000 cheaper. The job market makes it hard though. Still something to think about.
Thanks, guys. I did some research last week and my doctor (and his practice-two other RE's there) are the best within our entire area. I'd have to go to Philly and not sure my husband and I could manage appt's that far during the work week because it is over an hour drive each way. Anyway, I know my RE seems so pro-IVF, but I read reviews for other RE's (in Philly for instance) and people made comments that they were similar. So I don't know that I'd find a doctor that is better in that regard. Two orange-size cysts can be very dangerous (especially since the one is the hemorrhagic, filled with blood) so I know they need to be removed. I called my RE and left a message for him to call me today. I'm going to ask him if there is any other alternative (birth control pill for example, although I read that doesn't usually work for large cysts, only small ones) and how dangerous is it to wait a month or two. Also, how dangerous is it to get pregnant with large cysts. He had mentioned them going away if I were to be pregnant, but I just read online so many stories of women who had large cysts during pregnancy which can be very, very dangerous and some had to undergo surgery while pregnant!
The whole situation just plain stinks, but somehow we'll get through it. Thanks for the support.
@heathaah: New Jersey is one of the states that covers IVF thru insurance. And we live only about 75 min away! No, we wouldn't move, though. We own a house and wouldn't be able to transfer with our jobs. If we sold our house right now, we'd lose money (due to economy) so that wouldn't work. I wish all 50 states would cover IVF.
Another IVF note - if we have to go there, we will be applying for the Attain Refund or Multicycle programs. You have to be approved and meet certain criteria, but the Refund program gives you 3 fresh and 3 frozen cycles, and 70% back if all fails (100% back if you use donor eggs - but we wouldn't do that). The multicycle program is I think 2 fresh and 2 frozen at a reduced price. Basically it costs more if IVF works the first time, but if it takes multiple cycle to work, or doesn't work, you have some financial cushion. If IUI doesn't work, we will probably only consider IVF if we can be approved for the Refund program, just because it would be really hard to shell out $20k for IVF, and then another $20k for adoption, if it came to that. BUT my clinic says their IVF rates are most influenced by the age of the mother/eggs, and under 35, they have a success rate of about 80%! But I keep reminding myself that we've already fallen on the crap side of those kind of statistics before, so it's still a tough decision.
@MerryC: I researched IVF and was interested in the multi-cycle/refund program, too. If it comes to that, we'll probably do that as well. I hate that it costs more, but it definitely makes financial sense (at least to me) since you have multiple cycles/refund guarantee.
@Jenn23: Just lurking but wanted to comment. Have you done any research on women getting pregnant with only one ovary and one tube on opposite sides of each other? I never did any official research, but when I had a tube and part of an ovary removed, my OB at the time said the body will over time figure it out (for example, left tube pulling from the right ovary) and women still get pregnant.
@SecretName: That's called "cross transfer" and my RE has mentioned it to me since he removed my right tube last November. He said it is possible, but not likely. I just asked him about it a few weeks ago again and he told me he has had only 5 patients in 10 years in which this happened. Now, I don't know if they had two ovaries and one tube like I do, or if they only had one of each on opposite sides as you mentioned above. Definitely something to ask him about, though. Thanks!
@Jenn23: I just read your update. :) I'm so sorry this wasn't your month. I hope your doctor calls back today with some good regarding your options and possible surgery.
@Jenn23: I'm so sorry! I hope the surgery goes well and they can save your tube. I understand how scary this is! I know it's easier said than done, but try to focus on the good of each day and not research IVF until you know for sure that's your only option. It's only going to make you more upset and going through surgery is stressful enough on you and your body without the added pressure of looking at different options and costs. But of course it's easier said than done, I know firsthand!
@MissGreen: @Jenn23: I'm so sorry! Totally suxs and just isn't fair. Have you looked into Mini IVF? It's suppose to cost $5,000-$7,000 per cycle instead of $15,000.
http://www.infertile.com/infertility-treatments/IVF-Cost.htm
http://infertility.about.com/od/ivf/f/mini_ivf.htm
@Jenn23: I'm so sorry. I hope you are able to get the surgery scheduled and that your ovary will be just fine. I really don't even know what to say. I know you must be totally stressed. And I wish I knew how we could make it better for you. I'm sending a big hug your way from California.
@MerryC: Do you have low ovarian reserve or am I thinking about someone else? I had blood taken for my AMH on Saturday. I had my antral follicle count last week and it was 12 (they combine both ovaries right? I had 6 in each). The doctor is a little concerned based on my high estrogen levels and short cycle length that I might have low ovarian reserve. I'm confused though, if I ovulate each month isn't that a good thing?
@Sacbride: Not sure about MerryC but I have poor ovarian reserve. Are you for sure ovulating each month? But yes you can ovulate each month or have a normal cycle yet still have a low reserve. You just don't have time on your side if in fact you have a poor reserve.
@MerryC: I hope that is implantation, and that it does stick!
@Jenn23: Oh no, I am so sorry. I hope you can talk to your dr soon and hopefully he can give you some other alternatives to try before surgery. If it comes down to surgery, I pray that they can save your ovary and tube and just take the cysts.
@mmsva: thanks for those links! I had never heard of mini ivf, but its nice to know that there is another option that is less expensive.
@sacbride10: I don't think I have low ovarian reserve. I had an antral follicle count done, and my combined total was around 20, which the doctor said was good. They did bloodwork to check my AMH - I never got the number back (I really need to ask), but never heard that it was a concern. I haven't had any estrogen tests done, but I did have FSH checked and that was normal. I would think ovulating regularly is definitely a good sign, but like Miss Green said, I think low reserve just means that sooner is better than later for ttc.
@Sacbride: Another thing I forgot to mention is with POR, it's just not the count of eggs that matters but the quality. You can still ovulate every month with normal cycles, but that doesn't mean the eggs are quality enough for pregnancy, it's a common misconception. I would discuss with your doctor about your FSH levels as well to determine if you indeed have POR.
@Jenn23: So sorry. You are in my thoughts.
@MerryC:Fingers crossed for implantation bleeding. I had spotting a couple times around ovulation. But my OB said not to worry unless it happened more than twice a year. Not really sure why. I didn't think of it again until just now.
Ok, this is totally illegal on the main boards, so I figured we were all close enough on here that it (hopefully) won't be a problem. I need help for school! Has anyone ever been a participant in group therapy? If so, can I interview you for a paper? I am really struggling to find people and it is due in a couple days!!! I can ask everything via email, and I won't use names. It isn't overly personal, and it is quick and painless. Thanks!!!!!
@heathaah: I will do it! I use to have to do this all the time in nursing school! I'll message you my email.
@heathaah: Do you still need people? If you do, I'm happy to help :)
@Quietserenity: That would be fantastic! The more, the better!! Can you message me your email? Thanks!!!
@heathaah: I would... but I've never done it! Sorry! I hope you can get all the help you need!
...and....I might just test tomorrow. Fingers crossed for a BFP!!!! (I'm allowed to do that, right? It's not cheesy or anything?)
@Zinzerena: DO IT! hehe. Fingers crossed for you :) About what dpo are you?
@MerryC: hehehehehe, thanks! I'm around 11dpo today. I got a postive OPK on the 20th using ClearBlue Easy Digital OPK. It's the one that says you'll ovulate within the next 48 hours...
AF is due Saturday or Sunday, so I should be able to test tomorrow and get an accurate result! that is IF my FI remembers to get a test..... maybe I should send him a text and ask/remind him? lol
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