Post # 1
Just came across this ad via a Facebook link. It contrasts similar male and female behavior and how differently it is often perceived by the public.
What do you bees think? Do you think the ad hits the nail on the head or is skewed?
ETA: For those who don’t want to watch the 1 minute video, it basically suggests the following:
When male are exhibit certain behaviors, they are perceived as “the boss,” “dedicated,” “persuasive,” “neat,” and “smooth.”
It goes on to show women showing the same behavior and being perceived as “bossy,” “selfish,” “pushy,” “vain” and “showy.”
Post # 3
@bmo88: I think it’s very true. It’s something I’ve always noticed and found disturbing… that powerful women, or women in leadership positions have their personalities picked apart (by men and other women alike), and how it is much more likely that they will be called negative things (controlling, dismissive, cold, a bitch, vain) when men doing/saying the same things will be seen as strong, focused, authoritative, confident, and well-groomed.
Post # 4
@MsBlackberry: I agree. In some ways, I think women (especially in politics) are damned if they do, damned if they don’t in the eyes of media at least. Either they care too much about their wardrobe or are overly emotional….then they switch it up and they are cold harded, fashionless b$#tches. Can’t win 🙁
Post # 6
Slightly skewed, sure, but there’s a lot of truth behind it.
Post # 7
I showed this to my DH last night, and he thought it was “interesting” but I don’t think it really resonated with him…
I wonder what the poll results would look like if this site was predominately male.
Post # 8
@bmo88: While I think this ad is very true, I feel that labels work both ways. For example a man that cries/shows emotion may be called weak, while a woman will be called sensitive/caring. However, you cannot control the openess of someone else’s mind, you can only control your own.
Post # 9
I love it! I do think there’s a difference between being a strong, assertive female leader and being a bitch (I have worked with both, and the bitches would be annoying whether they were men or women). However, I think people often call ANY strong woman a bitch, and it makes me furious.
Post # 10
@bmo88: yep. In my super corporate workplace, for example, we have both male and female leadership, but an aggressive male is thought of as a mover and a shaker, while an aggressive woman is considered a bitch or a ballbuster for the exact same traits.
Post # 12
Mostly I was just thinking about how great her hair looked. Which was the point. This is a Pantene ad. And ads for beauty products that pretend to send a message are just calculated to be viral. (you found it on Facebook, it’s been watched because I saw it here. Mission accomplished). Check out the title. “Will never be shown in the US” – well yeah, because why buy airtime when you can get people to propogate it for you for free on the internet.
I always feel so patronised by these. Like ‘dangle the little empowerment birdy in front of me and I’ll buy your crap that’s still sold to me because I want to look a certain way.’ Dove’s the absolute worst for this. Such a cynical ploy.
Post # 13
- Wedding: June 2014 - Cedar Lake Cellars
I think it’s completely true. Has anyone seen this come across their newsfeed yet?
And, if you really want to get fired up, watch Miss Representation on netflix. It’ll make you question everything your kids might be seeing around them
Post # 14
@housebee: Very, very true. It’s sort of alarming how many people out there just don’t understand that concepts of masculinity are as much of an issue as concepts of femininity are.
Post # 15
I think in general gender roles are given wayyyy too much credence. It wasn’t that long ago in the grand scheme of things however that women were the homemakers and men were the breadwinners. Think 40s-60s… Those people are still very prevalent members of society. I truly hope that with time, these mindsets will die off.
I was by a very strong-minded and independent mother (who was/is often labeled a ‘bitch’) that instilled in me a long time ago that there isn’t anything a man can do that I can’t. Within physical capability, obviously. The rest is simply your own choice of mindset and who you choose to be. As a result, I’m a proud, strong-minded and independent person myself (who has often been labeled as a bitch/ballbuster a time or two myself, sometimes deserved, sometimes not! =p).
I have no doubt that biology certainly has it’s place in giving women a more hard-wired ability to be nurturers, just as men tend to have a more hard-wired mindset to be aggressive. I don’t think this is necessarily true in all cases, so please don’t flame me as if I’m making a blanket statement, I’m not. I’m just speaking in generals here. But I also think that the biological necessity of such characteristics is becoming outdated and that humans will evolve out of it.
In the intermittent time, we chose who we become and our perceptions of others. I work to provide for my family and I cook/clean for my family. Not because I’m hard-wired, but because I choose to out of love. I expect the same from DH. I expect him to work and share household duties because it’s all the same at this point. Providing for your family.
Post # 16
@MrsRevolutionize: But then you have to remember that they are related (if not the same) issues. Because if a man cries, he is percieved as weak, because that’s woman-like… which is considered a bad thing!