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I know someone who wants to have a small wedding, but a large bridal tea.
My personal opinion is that it is rude and you're telling the person they are good enough to give a gift, but not attend the wedding.
Just curious to see what your opinions are.
Please reply to the poll--but also post your age below, if you don't mind. There was an opinion that it was just old people who were offended or against this idea. 
I'm not a fan of this either. I agree that it seems a bit gift grabby in that I'm good enough to attend a shower and give you a gift, but not good enough to attend your wedding. I probably wouldn't go.
I can definitely understand wanting a small wedding, but in that case you should have a small party as well. Does sort of seem like a gift grab.
Yeah, no. Terribly rude. Why would I want to bring someone a gift and spend time honoring them when I'm not even going to be invited to the event. SO rude and tacky.
Not sure what my age has to do with it, but I'm 24.
The reason I asked is one of the family members thought it was just the "old people" who were against this practice.
Here is another sticky issue-----how would you know if you were invited to only the bridal shower since the wedding invites go out much later?? Just seems so wrong.
i'm 26 and I would be offended. I wouldn't want to waste my time and money going to celebrate someone's special occasion when I wouldn't be invited to the actual special occasion.
I'm 24 and I'd be incredibly offended to the point that I wouldn't attend, and if invited to the wedding, I wouldn't go to that either. As your poll suggests, it's the "ultimate gift grab" and suggests that the bride doesn't care to spend her wedding with me, but she wants me to buy her a present.
@Lorelei: Ah, gotcha. No, I think almost everyone I know my age would agree that this is tacky and rude behaviour. Sounds like the family just wants to be able to justify their gift grab.
Im 29.
If I got a shower invite, I'd assume I was invited to the wedding - so, that would be pretty uncomfortable once I found out I wasnt...
You should never invite anyone to a shower who is not also invited to the wedding. It's definitely gift-grabby.
I think it's rude and I'm 26. I would not attend a shower where I was not invited to the wedding. I recently had a friend from college, who I haven't spoken to in years, send out a mass email from pictures of her wedding and a link to her registry, saying we had a small wedding and here are some pics oh and also here's our registry information. I found it to be an attempt for more gifts. I feel like having a large shower with people who are not invited to the wedding is along the same lines...
I think it's up to whoever is hosting the shower/tea to make this call. My mom is hosting a shower for me with a lot of her friends, some of whom are invited to the wedding and some of whom are not. These are almost all people who have known me since I was little (the church ladies!) and while my mom continues to have a relationship with them, I don't see them often.
Mom has stuck diligently to the guest list restrictions for the wedding itself, I'm letting her use her judgment for a shower she chooses to host.
Here at work we give showers all the time even though we know none of us are going to the coworker's wedding, and I don't feel there's any resentment. It's our way of congratulating the bride-to-be. We get a cake and everyone chips in $5-$10 bucks and we put together a basket of kitchen goodies or other smalls from her registry. It's social and fun.
I think it just depends on knowing your crowd.
I'm 23 and I think it's rude. If you're inviting someone to the shower, they should be invited to the wedding. I'm not a stickler for traditions but that is just common courtesy.
I would probably go to the shower if I didn't already KNOW I wasn't invited to the wedding, but would be pretty annoyed when I found out I wasn't.
A sort of distant cousin pulled a similar stunt a couple years ago. They had a small wedding and then a few months later, sent out invites that said, "Come celebrate the union of Mr&Mrs Jones at a come and go lunch and tea. They are registered at Such&SuchAPlace." I believe the bride's mother was upset that they didn't have a larger wedding, so planned this little "celebration", but wait! you should bring gifts, even though you and your family weren't invited to the big event in the first place! We were fuming. I was 20 at the time, 22 now and I was and would still be offended by any similar stunts.
I will add, though, I can understand having a reception type get-together if you're having a DW where not everyone can attend.
I am 28 and being invited to a "shower" "tea" or anything of the sort and not to the wedding is a total gift grab and extreamly rude.
@sweetcrackers: I understand where you're coming from, but I still think it's rude. If the guests are important enough to be invited to a shower, they should also be invited to the wedding without a doubt.
28 here.
I knew a colleague who was having a destination wedding a couple years ago, and someone (who wasn't going to the wedding) threw a bachelorette party for her. The bride had told pretty much everyone up front that they weren't invited, but still talked about her wedding details a lot (which I thought was rude). I ended up going wedding dress shopping with her a few times, but was kind of burned out on it by the time her bachelorette party came around. I didn't go.
Although my not going wasn't just on not being invited to the destination wedding; when I was helping her try on dresses she made some comment about her being a selfish person, which made me think about it and say, "You know what! She's right!". That comment soured me on wanting to help her out anymore with her wedding preparations.
@abbie017: But what about the work situation, where we choose to throw the bride a shower on our own? SHE is not asking anything of us. It's OUR choice to host and purchase a gift.
Definitely rude. I think the only time it's acceptable to have any sort of wedding-related party where you invite people who won't be invited to the wedding is if you're having a DW and can only invite a small number of people, and in that case you should not ask for gifts at all- just tell them to come celebrate with you and make it clear that no gifts are expected.
ETA: Work-related showers or parties are also OK in my book, as long as there are no gifts or everyone gives <$20 towards one group gift.
Thats totally different than having the bride or her mother invite people to a shower. We've done that at my job too.
I'm 21 and I wouldn't invite someone to my shower and not the wedding. It's really rude IMO.
Whoever hosts the bridal tea or shower doesn't usually control who is on the guest list.
This comes from the bride, MOB, and MOG.
This idea is actually coming from the MOB--who is paying for the wedding, in this case.
I feel sorry for the MOG.
I have told my kids, when they joke about going to the courthouse, that you forfeit your "right" to any of the usual bridal/wedding festivities---unless we threw a large reception (which sort of defeats the purpose of having the courthouse wedding!!).
@sweetcrackers: You mean coworkers throwing something in the office? That's not really a bridal shower in my opinion. We do that in my office and get a group gift certificate and a cake, nothing big. It's also not really expected or traditional like an actual bridal shower is. Regardless, I was talking about the situation you described, with people you grew up with and have kept in touch with, and who are friends with your mom, being invited to come to a shower, but then basically told they aren't important enough to be invited to the actual wedding. I think it's rude and comes off as looking like you only wanted gifts in the first place. Even if your mom is throwing it, she should know what the guest list for the wedding is and be going off of that. I don't think it's discretionary based on who is throwing the shower; I think it's in bad taste to invite someone to a shower and not to a wedding.
I'm not a fan HOWEVER when I got married I had several people ask if they could come to my shower. We had a smaller wedding 14 hours away from my hometown and lots of people who would have beein invited if my wedding had been local weren't invited to the semi-destination wedding. They told me they were going to give me a gift anyway so it seemed rude to tell them they couldn't come to my shower.
@MissBananaBread: said: "Work-related showers or parties are also OK in my book, as long as there are no gifts or everyone gives <$20 towards one group gift."
TOTALLY AGREE!
If I knew that the bride/groom had to do with the planning and that I wasn't invited to the wedding, I'd probably not go to the shower. I'd feel like it was a bit gift grabby.
@sweetcrackers: I agree with this, too. I just had a shower the other week planned by FI's relatives. I offered up the guest list for that side, but no one took it...and it turns out it was an open-house, in the newspaper, open invitation type of shower (totally did not know this until day of) so I had to write thank you cards to folks that weren't invited (that I didn't even know!) but were friends of FI's grandma's sister. :-/ I really hope that it didn't reflect poorly on me, but I think with this small town, close-knit area, people know that these things happen and they're just glad to join in anyway. Like you said, know your circle/group. But I totally felt awkard about that for a while.
@mandypop: I think the "rude" thing is when the bride invites people to a shower she throws herself. That, to me, is saying "bring ME a gift." She's throwing a wedding, that's her gig to host. But my mom is not the hostess of my wedding. A shower is, in her circle, just a way to congratulate the bride and for everyone to get together and have a little party.
I stand by my original statement - you have to know your crowd. In my mom's circle it seems that this is perfectly acceptable. All the ladies do it for their daughters. They all have daughters getting married and they all know how hard it is to manage a wedding guest list. I leave this one up to mom.
@june42011: said: I'm not a fan HOWEVER when I got married I had several people ask if they could come to my shower. We had a smaller wedding 14 hours away from my hometown and lots of people who would have beein invited if my wedding had been local weren't invited to the semi-destination wedding. They told me they were going to give me a gift anyway so it seemed rude to tell them they couldn't come to my shower.
I agree---this is a totally different situation.
In your situation, probably a small group of friends who want to do something for you in the form of a get together, probably without a lot of fuss. It's "their" choice in this instant and post-wedding.
Not the case in this situation.
@NDBee: I don't think that would reflect poorly on you at all. You had the opportunity to meet people who are important to your fiance's family, you wrote your thank-you notes, and there you go. Good bride. You didn't throw the party yourself, someone else did it to honor you. You sound like you were a gracious guest of honor.
@sweetcrackers: In my circle, it's pretty much expected that a bride's mother will host her shower, same with baby showers. Mine happens to be thrown by my bridesmaids, but I think that's unusual. It may have to do with the fact that we're relatively young and just beginning to be established (I turned 25 last month), so it doesn't seem that odd (since most bridesmaids in our age group would have a hard time throwing a shower).
That being said, I think this situation is rude. I could *see* a situation where *maybe* it would be acceptable (like, it's a destination wedding where people weren't invited because it was assumed they wouldn't be able to attend and didn't want to pressure anyone, but then the non-guests, knowing they weren't invited, offered to throw and/or attend a shower), but this doesn't sound like one of them.
@Lorelei: " Whoever hosts the bridal tea or shower doesn't usually control who is on the guest list. This comes from the bride, MOB, and MOG. "
I disagree with this just from MY experience. Anyone can throw a shower. Some of them are surprises! How would the bride control the guest list? Maybe it's just a regional or cultural thing, it sounds like we all have a lot of different social situations and there's nothing that's going to be right and wrong for EVERYBODY.
@Lorelei: I don't think THAT should happen! No no no on the bride throwing a shower for herself. I said I thought that would be the rude thing.
@abbie017: "Regardless, I was talking about the situation you described, with people you grew up with and have kept in touch with, and who are friends with your mom, being invited to come to a shower, but then basically told they aren't important enough to be invited to the actual wedding. "
I didn't say I kept in touch with them. I said my mom did.
I think her church ladies just like an excuse to have a party. :o)
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