Post # 1
SO and I have discussed rings a lot and we have the same ideas about the basics — solitaire, eternity/half-eternity band, rose gold & the budget.
When it comes to for 4 C’s, for me it’s:
Cut, Carat, Color, Clarity
He puts a lot more emphasis on color & clarity. To me, I feel like one of the 2 could be ‘sacrficed’ in a ring for a bigger stone (ie. Ideal Cut, DEF, SI2; Ideal Cut, GHI, VS2 or higher would both trump and Ideal, DEF, VS2 or higher when the ct. would be bigger for the same price). For some reason, he’s got it in his head that it has to be colorless and has to be VS2 or higher! We’re looking at something in the 1.7-2.4 ct. range. Opinions?
Also, pics and stats of what a ‘sacrifice’ of color or clarity looks like? Thanks!
Post # 3
Should I add a poll?
I feel like GHI SI1 or SI2 would also be fine. Has anyone had an experience where a near colorless or SI1-SI2 atually made a noticeable difference?
Post # 4
Sorry but I agree with him… don’t know what to tell you. I’m a quality-focused person… in general in life too. It might be a personality difference between the two of you?
Post # 5
@lawgirl88: My FI is the same way – he was very concerned about the quality of the diamond, even though I tried to convince him that no one will see what he’s paying for! I never really cared about the size, but I didn’t want him spending money on something that doesn’t make a difference one way or the other. However, he stuck to his guns and now have a great .5 carat center stone that seriously sparkles all the time. I always notice how sparkly it is at work, on a cloudy day, in my car…I think this diamond would sparkle even if it was covered in mud at night! So, in my new opinion, a smaller, higher-quality diamond is way better than a bigger, lower-quality diamond. (sorry I don’t know/remember the specs of my ring when it comes to color and clarity.)
Post # 6
I ‘sacrificed’ clarity for carat, and I am a HUGE supporter of doing so!
I have a 2.02ct, Ex polish Ex symmetry (fancy stones are graded this way), F, SI2
I don’t understand why couples get so hung up on the clarity. Anything with better quality than SI2 has to have a loupe to be seen, so what’s the difference, really?
I have a visible coal spot on the top of my ring, but it is mostly hidden by the prong.
Post # 7
@lawgirl88: My stone is SI, and next to my moms and grandmother’s better clarity & color rings, it looks just the same… I have a better cut than they do. But they have better color and clarity. This picture is hard to tell because I took it in bad lighting but this is just an idea.
I have 1.5ct, my mom has 1 ct and my grandmothers is .75 ct
My ring in natural lighting
Post # 8
Generally, he is more focused on quality than I am as well. I guess to me, when we’ve looked at rings together, I just didn’t a difference between colorless and near colorless, unless they were right next to eachother and it was pointed out to me and even then, nothing substantial. I did notice clarity differences betwen SI vs. VS, but again, except for one or 2, it had to be pointed out or side by side comparison. So when I think of GHI or (most) SI grade rings, I consider them high quality.
Post # 9
@lawgirl88: What kind of cut do you want? That can make a difference. An emerald or asscher cut stone need reaaly good clarity.
Post # 10
Our FIs are so alike when it comes to the 4 C’s. My FI’s main priority were the color and clarity as well.
I have tiny fingers so anything over a carat would look too big on me. I’m actually very satisfied with my e-ring’s carat size and wouldn’t want it any bigger because I didn’t want it to be too much for my taste, and luckily we have the same taste when it comes to engagement rings.
He didn’t want to buy me a big or blingy ring and sacrifice the color and clarity since he is doesn’t like seeing cloudy diamonds on e-rings or small center stones with halos to make it look “bigger” (his words, not mine).
I think it depends on the ring finger size. I want a diamond that’s proportioned to my finger.
Post # 11
Maybe take him to see a jeweler and show him diamonds that are cut extremely well with different stats otherwise and see if he can tell the difference, I bet he won’t be able to without knowing the exact stats of what he’s looking at. You never know, you might find a “J” diamond that looks colorless in person and he’d never know the difference just by looking at them…? I can’t tell the difference between a VS2 and an IF when the VS2 is eye-clean, and I doubt he could either.
Post # 12
@leahthehun: Thanks for that! In the end, I will be happy with whatever. I almost always guess rings at .5 ct or more bigger than they really are so I probably won’t notice the ct. difference when it comes down to it. Just always tryna get more for the money lol!
@TheMrsTulip: Thank you! Your ring is so simple and beautiful. Also, I don’t notice the coal spot, even when you point it out. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong spot?
@SparkleBee11: Your ring is gorgeous! Thank you for posting. Honestly, I would say your ring is by far my favorite of the 3.
@Bridey77: Sorry forgot to mention – we’re looking at round cuts.
Post # 13
@MrsTywinLannister: We’ve gone together many times and different jewelers have showed use a range of different Cs. I almost never notice the difference until it’s pointed out or under bright light side-by-side comparison — he says he notices before that (but I’ve never heard him say it in the store!)
Post # 14
I have a D, with an Excellent (H&A), 1.00 ct, and an SI1. We sacrificed clairity for a larger stone, and color and carat was very important to my Fiance (I just wanted a bezel solitaire lol). It totally depends on what the imperfections are. Most of mine are on the edge and I have a bezel setting so it hides it well, and actually looks almost perfect. We went to a jeweler before we went to our family jeweler back home so my fiance could learn about the 4 Cs.
Post # 15
I agree about going slightly lower in colour and clarity; for me, a G, H or I is fine. SI1 is okay with me, but I need to see the stone first to make sure that inclusions that aren’t “visible” don’t interfere with light reflection. Go see stones and see what your FI thinks afterwards. He may still feel the same, or it may turn out that he can’t see as much of a difference as he thought.
Post # 16
Excellent cut (do not compromise on this)
VS2 SI1 if eyeclean
Down to I colour if set in white metal
Down to K colour if set in yellow metal
You can go lower if you prefer warmer diamonds.
See the diamonds in person and choose the one with the most sparkle and the prettiest sparkle pattern.
Look at your diamond under different light conditions.
Don’t be fooled by the diamond industry. In paying more for so-called higher grades of colour and clarity that you cannot see when the diamond is set you won’t be paying for more beauty but simply for greater rarity.
Chose a setting that you love.
Choose a setting that complements your hand and isn’t so impractical that you never wear it.