Post # 1
OKay, please tell me I’m not crazy. I’m taking a class and every time I submit an assignment (online) my teacher has SOME comment to add saying I should have “explicitly stated” such and such in my answer. This was the latest assignment that I got less than a perfect score. I’ve bolded the part in my answer where I CLEARLY think I EXPLICITLY stated what she was looking for:
30 out of 33 points
Riis considered himself a journalist not a photographer. Why did he decide to use photographs in his work?Answer
Riis’ main objective was to shed light on the poor living conditions for new immigrants in New York City. He learned that he could effect more people with the inclusion of images that directly depicted the conditions he was describing in a way that mere words could not do. He self admitted that he was a poor photographer, who was clumsy and lacked interest in detail of his images. He took up photography solely to enhance his written articles and help strengthen his case.
Explicitly write that photographs are viewed as conveying factual information more reliably than the written word. Words in combination with images can seem to powerfully and realistically document a situation.
Really?!?!?! Am I crazy or is this teacher just beyond nit-picky?
Post # 3
I think its the same answer. I would go talk to an advisor to see what you needed to do.
Post # 4
I agree that it’s totally nit-picky.
BUT your answer seems to address more the emotional impact of the photos, while her idea of the correct answer deals more with the power of the photos to deliver factual content. Small difference, but I see her point.
Post # 5
Sorry, I hate to disagree, but it seems to me here that the key is the word “reliable.” The response feedback tells a slightly different story than your answer does. According to the response feedback, Riis used photos because they were more convincing and they were more convincing because they seem more reliable than just words. Your answer missed that last important part. Your answer states that photos have a bigger impact on people, but not why.
You still did very well though! 30/33 is a great score!
Post # 6
Sorry, didn’t see your post before I posted mine…
Post # 7
I think the professor has a point, you were talking about emotionally impact (and you used “effect” wrong), while the professor wanted you to get across that the photos are more factual and reliable. Also your answer wasn’t very succinct.
(Sorry, I should have said this in a nicer way)
Post # 8
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@Lemma: Totally agree. The teacher wanted you to point out the objectiveness/factual-nature of photographs, which makes them more reliable than the written word (which is inherently subjective). And since you didn’t explicitly touch on the importance of the factual-nature of photographs, I could see why your professor marked you down for this response.
On a tangential note, though, the notion that photographs are more “factual” than writing is not true at all. Susan Sontag (and many others) debunked that thinking a while ago. Regarding the Pain of Others is a fabulous book that talks extensively about how photographs are just as subjective as other mediums, like writing.
Post # 9
I think the teacher is being super nit-picky.
I think your comment about the photos being used to “help strengthen [the journalist’s] case” covers the reliability aspect that the teacher claims she wanted to see.
Just because you said it in a different way doesn’t mean that the two versions don’t mean the same thing.
ETA: I also disagree that photos are inhertently more factual than the written word – but that’s another story.
Post # 10
I had a prof that wanted me to be more succinct and graded down based on it. It was a frustrating lesson, but helpful. (Not that am always good at doing it!)
Post # 11
Sorry but to me that’s not the right answer.
Pictures convery facutal information. You said pictures effect people, more than words.
The second bolded part though, I agree.
Post # 12
Thank you all for your words of wisdom. I understand where the difference lies between what she was “looking for” and what I stated, however the question simply asks why he used photography, which I feel I answered. This is the 10th assignment I have turned in and I am getting worn down because I never seem to state exactly what she is looking for. However, this is an ART history class. Art is meant to be taken in different ways by different people and it appears to her that there is only one way to take it.
Also, we are supposed to attend an art exhibit and write a reaction paper, and as she does not like my reactions to written word for assignments, I’m not about to waste my time attending an art exhibit where my perception will be critized, and risk my GPA. This class is an elective, and I’m taking three other classes this semester. So, as a result I have decided that I will just be dropping this class because it is not worth it to me to continue this for another 10 weeks.
Post # 13
Honestly I would try to do your assignment earlier and then make an appointment to see her during office hours. Explain that you just want to clairfy what exactly she is looking for and then you can make adjustments before the final due date.
Post # 14
@sleepingbeauty88: I agree with your last post. You’re right that the teacher’s question was very open-ended, and your response seems perfectly fine to me (though slightly different from what she wanted, but that doesn’t necessarily make it incorrect). I didn’t realize it was an art history class…. seems like an odd question for that kind of class!
Good call on dropping it. Sounds like an exercise in frustration.
Post # 15
@Koala Bear: I thought about doing this, however, this class is an elective to my degree, and given that I am taking three other courses this semester while continuing to work full time, it’s not something that I wish to spend that much time outside of class with my teacher for. I have read all of her comments on my assignments and tried to anticipate what she was looking for in the hopes of improving but to no avail.
I should also mention I chose this as an elective as it was something my SO was interested in and I thought we could take the course together since it would be his first course in college. He is doing exceptionally well and I don’t think that it is fair to him for me to be so upset with our teacher once a week while he actually enjoys this class. I feel like I am bringing him down, and worry about ruining his first experience with college after working so hard to even get him INTO a class.
Up until this point we hadn’t sat down and done our homework together, so I tried that with this last assignment and coninued to have the same problem, so I’m giving up before it’s too late and affects my GPA (should I continue and do poorly). I told him that I would read the lectures so he and I could still discuss together, and I would attend the exhibit with him, but this class isn’t working out for me. The other three classes that I am taking are being paid for by my employer so I cannot afford to not do well in them because I’m trying to overcompensate in another class. The best choice at this point is to drop and focus on my other classes, so I don’t do poorly in all of them.
Post # 16
@stillme: thank you 🙂
I completely agreed with your statement in what the differences were as far as what she wanted and what I had written, I’ve just been so confused because it seems so ironic to me that a woman whose main passion is ART, is not able to understand that people can perceive and prioritize things differently. ART is all about how it makes the viewer FEEL, so I thought that focusing on the impact it had on a person, versus the factual representation it made, was more what would be expected in this class.
It’s all so very frustrating. I know that I am not a bad student, and I’m certainly not stupid (although I did use the wrong “effect” as mentioned by another poster, oops), and her feedback has a way of making me feel like I’m missing the point. Which, I know I’m not, because my boyfriend submits eerily similar answers, and continues to get a better grade than me. (I know this sounds like a competition, but it’s not. I’m very proud that he is doing so well, I’m just not understanding why our answers are being graded so differently)