Jahi McMath–your thoughts?

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

@MrsLongcoatPeacoat:  These cases are always so heartbreaking, and I really don’t know what the right choice is. I think it’s one of those things that is impossible to judge unless you’re in the situation.

In this case, unlike Terry Schiavo’s, I think the parents should be allowed to keep her alive. There isn’t anyone with legal rights protesting that (like Terry Schiavo’s husband).

If it were me, would I want to live like that? No. But because she’s a minor and because there’s no advanced directive, I think the parents should be allowed to make the decision here.

Post # 4
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2015

@MrsLongcoatPeacoat:  I think the parents are in denial. Like 5 doctors have declared her brain dead. She will literally lie in a bed hooked to a machine for her entire “life” so what is the point? I understand the extreme sadness but I don’t see the benefit of keeping her attached to the machines. I have told close family that if something like this happened to me then just please pull the plug.

Post # 6
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

The family is literally starving her to “death” right now. The hospital won’t put a feeding tube in because she has been declared legally dead, but she would need several procedures done before she could be transferred to another hospital that might be willing to perform these procedures. Her heart may be beating because of artificial respiration, but she can’t eat and her body can only go on so long because of that.

Also, if there was medical malpractice that caused all of this to happen, the family isn’t likely to find out about it now because her body has been wound-healing this entire time.

I feel terrible for this family — no one should have to suffer the loss of a child, especially when it is so unexpected in a case like this. No one expects to die from a tonsillectomy. It’s time to let her go though.

 

Post # 7
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2013

@MrsLongcoatPeacoat:  ughhh, such a sad story. I feel so bad for the parents. She went in for a routine surgery and now she’s dead. I honestly believe they just can’t wrap their heads around that. Who could? I think right now they just can’t deal with the fact that she is indeed brain dead. I mean, they can’t even find a facility to take her. That right there shows that they are in denial when everyone else knows she won’t come back. So unfortunate though. I can’t imagine.

@annb9:  this case is completely different from Terry Schiavo because Terry was in a permanant vegetative state, meaning she still had brain activity and was still functioning…albeit very very low functioning. Jahi is brain dead. Totally different. People who are brain dead don’t come back. It’s not a coma or PVS, where there is a slight chance of coming back. That’s the issue with Jahi’s case.

Post # 8
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2011

Do the parents really think that so many doctors and the hospital would continue to say she is totally brain dead and will not come back after all this press if there is even the slightest bit of a fraction of a chance she would come back?  It is a horrible situation but “a pulse” and “breathing” dont mean alive when the body is on a vent. As a nurse, I would never ever want to be on a vent long term, and it breaks my heart they lost their child, but she is gone and they need to accept that. And honestly it sucks to think about but who is paying for this mess? It is like $100000 per day stay in ICU. And while a cadaver is sitting in a hospital bed and using a vent, someone who really could come out of it isnt there. I get it, no mom wants to give up on their child after they die from  a freak accident on routine surgery, but at some point you have to move on. 

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

@IzzyBear:  Oh I understand it’s different, I just meant that in Terry Schiavo’s case, they had her parents fighting her husband. In this case, it’s just the parents fighting the hospital. Obviously, she isn’t coming back, but legally, the parents should be the decision makers. 

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

@chasesgirl:  Remind me to never go to your hospital. So rude.

Post # 11
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2013

@annb9:  oh ok, gotcha. It’s just really common for people to confuse those 3 terms. I think that’s another reason the parents are keeping her “alive”. They probably just think she’s in a coma, when unfortunately she’s not. I do think the parents should be able to do whatever they want…as long as they’re paying for it 100%. I doubt insurance pays for any of this since she’s technically dead.

Post # 12
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

I understand the situation in principle, but I don’t know how I would be if it was my child. I know she should have been off any life support long ago as she’s been dead. I mean she went to get her tonsils removed… and now this. My heart goes out to them.

Post # 14
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2013

@NJatTheDisco:  how is what she said rude? This girl is unfortunately dead. Not in a coma. If the parents are willing and able to pay the bills to keep her in the hospital then it’s not a problem, but I have a feeling they don’t have those funds considering the average person can’t cover that without insurance and insurance doesn’t cover dead people.

Post # 15
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2011

Life support implies this little girl is alive, she is not. I feel awful for her parents but you shouldn’t get to use up a hospital bed because you can’t come to terms with reality.

Post # 16
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

@chasesgirl:  well put. I’m not in healthcare, but share similar concerns after reading the news story.

I think the family is in shock and in denial. The best thing would be to donate her organs if they’re still viable so she can live on that way. I really feel for her family 🙁

 

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