Post # 1
I just came across this artice on Yahoo news that says the first study linking vaccines to autism was based on false info…it doesn’t talk about subsequent studies though… has anyone heard additional info on this or done other autism/vaccination research? What are your thoughts?? I’m trying to learn what I can about autism and what can be done to help mitigate risks…
Post # 3
Considering autism (originally known as juviniel schizophrenea (Sp?)) has been around since 1938, I highly doubt that it is linked to vaccinations as most of those vaccinations either were not around or are completly changed since then. Not to mention that they have completely changed in the last 10 years. This was also a big scare in the eighties and was found then to be baseless.
Post # 4
I read that its not the vaccine itself but the vaccine casing(what the vaccine comes in) that changed over time with the increase in diagnosed autism- something about high levels of mercury in the vaccine casing and also new vaccines shots that combine a bunch of individual vaccines into one that were traditionally given individualy… have you ever heard about that?
Post # 5
@FallLove: Most vaccines do not contain mercury anymore, it may be out of them all. This from the CDC:
Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines
Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines and other products since the 1930’s. There is no convincing evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure.
Post # 6
I heard this almost a year ago. I believe that many other studies done have also skewed their results to fit what the original had found. A lot of people think that autism and the vaccine are linked because autism usually presents around the same time that the vaccine is given.
Post # 7
There has been a ton of further research disproving the autism link, and the initial british autism article you’re referring to was actually withdrawn (this is a big deal…I’ve never heard of another instance of a journal withdrawing an article) by the journal who published it a year or two ago. The principal investigator paid kids at his child’s birthday party, and that was his population sample!
I’m not sure how readable these articles are to non-science people, but if you go to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed and search autism and vaccines you will find a TON of studies.
IMO, this fraudulent link to autism has caused many unnecessary illnesses and deaths and is one of the biggest healthcare tragedies of our generation.
Post # 8
People are born with autism. The only reason children aren’t diagnosed until after being vaccinated is because they are too young to diagnose. If everyone refuses to vaccinate because of fear of autism, communities will face the consequence of having children die of measles, mumps and rubella.
Post # 9
As someone who had several of the illnesses that kids are vaccinated for today, get the vaccines. You really don’t want your son/daughter going through Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, or any of the others. I still have issues till this day stemming from some of those illnesses, and my mother almost died from them as a child.
Post # 10
I wonder how many illnesses could have been prevented if this unfactual information didn’t spread like wildfire. I agree, that certain vaccines are unnecessary but I believe that vaccines have done so much good that they outweigh any supposed risks. (I’m talking long proven vaccines)
Post # 11
@FallLove: There were no other studies that conclusively demonstrated a link between vaccinations and autism, or any other mental disorder. This was the only one that people were parading about, and like socalmeli said, the original article was withdrawn by the publishing journal years ago due to “faulty science” (his sample size was too small & not properly selected, etc.). A reporter has now uncovered that the original article was actually fraudulent, because the researcher labelled children with pre-existing mental delays/disorders as “normal” to skew his results in the direction he wanted them to go. tksjewelry is also right about vaccines not containing mercury. They USED to contain SMALL doses of thimerosal, which was a preservative (an ethylmercury compound, NOT neurotoxic methylmercury), but this preservative was REMOVED when the controversy arose. However, even when the thimerosal WAS in the vaccines, you’d get more mercury from eating a tuna fish sandwich (and in that case, you’re ingesting the neurotoxic mercury compound, not ethylmercury, which hasn’t shown any neurotoxic effects).
Post # 12
The studies linking vaccines to Autism are completely fraudulant. My son has autism and there are sooo many myths on how children “catch” autism. It is not a cold. Most legitimate research suggests that they are born that way and it is genetic. That is why if you have a child with autism there is a 75 percent chance you will have another child with autism and in some cases it becomes progressively worse with each birth. I have met families with 4 children and all 4 have autism. Vaccines are extremely important for children and not linked to the increase in autism, awareness is most likely the reason there are more diagnosis.
Post # 13
@15happyyears: Thank you thank you thank you for restoring my faith in parents of children on the spectrum. I understand the conflicting messages and the desire to want to “pin down” the cause of your child’s disorder…and I know a lot of people bought into these studies thinking that they were legit…but it just breaks my heart (and my brain) when I hear people espousing all this crap about the relationship between the MMR vaccine & autism. I am so glad to hear that there are indeed some sane people out there! : )
PS: Sorry to threadjack, but has anyone read Jodi Picoult’s book House Rules? Ugh, I almost didn’t read past the part where she started going on about how vaccines caused the kid’s autism. : / I really used to like her books, but recently it just seems like she’s not doing her basic research anymore (in another book, she mixed up the bones of the lower leg & the bones of the lower arm…the nurse in me just about died!)….
Post # 14
Yes, this has been well known for about a year now but unfortunately scare tactics anecdotal information work a lot better on people than a retraction of an article. The doctor who was the main author of the article lost his license and has been totally discredited in the medical field. He took money write what he did.
Please vaccinate your children.
I am a behavior therapist and it is my job to work with children on the autism spectrum. I know how heartbreaking it can be for parents and how they desperately want to find the cause and cure. Vaccines are not the cause.
Here’s an article put out today: http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/health/medical/autism/2011-01-06-autism06_ST_N.htm
Please send it to anyone you know who might still believe this lie.
Post # 15
If you are trying to learn about ways to lessen the chances of your child becoming affected with autism, I highly recommend researching information derived from those in the natural health field (Dr. Joseph Mercola for example, has a site with invaluable resources), who won’t be as affected by what “Big Pharm” has to tell you about the causes of the illness and the “safety” of the vaccines they sell.
FWIW, I am also a behavioral specialist that works with ASD children.
Post # 16
@socalmeli: I agree that it is one of the biggest healthcare related tragedies of recent times. Have you read about the increase in childhood deaths due to preventable illnesses? It especially pisses me off from a community health perspective- its all fine and good if you choose not to vaccinate your kid but are able to provide them with good nutrition and take them to a doctor at the first sign of them being sick, but by the time your kid looks sick, they’ve already spread around the germs and it could have spread to someone who is too young to be vaccinated or someone who doesn’t have the same privileges that you do.
It amazes me how people think that “modern medicine” is something that should be traded in for more “traditional medicine” (I’m not talking about Eastern Medicine, I mean people who are against vaccines). People died much younger and had 10 babies so that at least a few would make it past infancy. Our health care system is clearly a mess, and its scary when people are trying to sell you drugs, but the link between vaccines and autism is completely false.
(whew. sorry. I get heated about this.)