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does your mom live near you? maybe you can give your mom and her "friend" alone time and you and your siblings can catch up on a movie or do some fun wedding stuff or something like that?
im wondering... as the male friend doesnt seem that into a relationship then maybe your mother kinda throwing herself at him more than she would have in the past with other men. shes getting older dont forget so the pool of available menfolk is getting limited and im wondering if thats a scary thought for her
as far as setting an example for your siblings... the thought of their mum having sex might put them off the idea forever :)
I feel for you! My mom has regressed herself too and I understand exactly how you feel.
Maybe have a sit down talk with her and gently tell her she is a mother still to your younger brother and is always the mother and a role model to you both. Tell her that your brother "heard them" and that it's troubling.
I would not be afraid. I would just deal with it. It's going to make her mad at first but when she realizes that she raised her children well and to NOT do this kind of stuff, she might change her tune or at least be a bit more subtle in her choices.
My mom got pissed off at me when I had my last heart to heart with her. But she settled down after a few days and now she's seeming to be a bit better. Oh well. We'll see. Until then hugs to you!!!
Oh my mom is well aware of the fact they they have heard her and know what's going on. It's made no difference. They have flat out mentioned it to her and she just laughs it off. Not even kidding. She didnt even TRY to be quieter about it. This was when she was with the last guy that she thought things were going to work out with... It's really not much use. She'll think I'm being a know it all. Nobody has ever been able to sit her down and talk some good sense into her. That's just how she is. Unfortunately, I can't "rescue" my siblings, even for a few hours to give her alone time because they are in Indiana and I'm in NYC. If we had the room to have them over here, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but unfortunately we just don't at the moment. I dont even know if there would be enough room to make a spot to sleep on the floor. That's how little room we have lol And, idk, I guess her sexual life really isn't my business and plenty of adults sleep with other adults and I suppose I wouldn't be judging them, but it's just hard when it's your own mother and your siblings are involved, ya know?
I get that JW. I remember almost passing out when I saw my mom (who raised me so carefully) wince when I went looking for a tylenol at her house and by instinct and as I did for the first twentysomething years of my life, reach for the tylenol instead find a bottle of VIAGRA!!
I was like..uh uh uh uh MOM!!!!!!! What is this?????
LMBO bellenga!!! Viagra!!!
@JW sorry honey i was hoping that the two of you were local. does your sister drive? maybe they could hang out at the mall. it would gross me out to hear my mom having sex.. i mean i know she does it, but thank God i don't hear it.
They also won't share a bed together when they stay in the same house overnight and the kids are there. What exactly are they trying to prove? That having sex isn't a bit deal, but staying in the same bed is way too inimate? I know this male-friend is quite religious and involved in Church. I don't know what religion. Are there any Christian religions that don't condone premarital sex like that?
Sister doesn't drive yet, but she's working on it. She recently got her permit. Im sure to her it won't be soon enough :p
I just try to not judge my mom but it's hard. She is doing much better though. Really trying.
She sent my son a very nice gift certificate for his birthday though.
I just hope (sigh) it is a PHASE!
Ugh, it's so disturbing when the parents act like teenagers and the kids are the ones who are disturbed by the whole thing. My FH's ex wife has a lot of 'friends' stay over and his daughter is only 5! So when I ask her where so and so slept, she will say, 'in mommy's bedroom'. Mind you, the reason my FH divorced her is because he found out she was cheating on him and she now supposedly has a boyfriend who, it appears, she is cheating on as well. I honestly don't give a rats ass as to what she does, except for the fact that she is setting a REALLY bad example to my future stepdaughter who is only 5. Not to mention that when she does have guys stay over and they actually stay in the guest room, who is to say that they're not pedophiles? She's meeting these guys from her quests on World of Warcraft! (No, I am not kidding!)
Your mom sounds like she is going through a mid life crisis and is getting really scared of being alone. It is good that he was upfront with her and told her he doesn't want anything, but I guess she figures that if she keeps giving him what he wants, he'll suddenly wake up one day and realize that she is a keeper and marry her on the spot. I feel so bad for your siblings who have to be in the middle of the whole situation. If she could at least find something else for them to do while she goes on her weekend excursions, that would be ideal. ASk them to go to a friends house or something for the weekend.
No doubt about it... you are absolutely right. You have every reason to be upset although I don't think there is a thing you can do about it! Well, yes there is. You can be a good role model for your siblings. You can show them how to have an appropriate healthy relationship. My Dad behaved in a similar way after my Mom died when I was 13. It was hard for me and my sisters to see him behave that way. But we knew right from wrong even if he was a bad example.
It isn't unusual for people to go nuts after a divorce and do things they normally wouldn't do. After a divorce, you are so devestated.. it makes you crazy. There is a book called "Crazy Time" (not sure of the author's name) that addresses this very issue. People kind of get wild after a divorce. Your Mom may end up regretting her behavior in the future but for now she is coping the only way she knows how.
Try to be patient and supportive of her. Tell her you know the divorce was really hard and tell her you want her to be happy but don't want to see her hurt. In the meantime, be a good big sister. It sounds like you already are doing that!
My best wishes,
Francie Elaine
I know the divorce still hurts her sometimes, but it's been almost 10 years now. If she hasn't learned by now I really don't know if she ever will.
I think she is afraid of being alone, but she also feels like she has to depend on someone other than herself. It's just no fun!
She's currently at the amusement park with my siblings. They are actually missing two days of school I learned. I really, really hope they can pick up what NOT to do by learning from her and her mistakes.
Eeeek, that isn't fun! I'm so sorry to hear about that. You're right- she really needs to be setting an example for your brother & sister and she isn't doing that. It does seem like she is afraid of being alone. If she is giving herself to someone who has been upfront & said they don't want a relationship, perhaps she is trying to get him to be in a relationship with her. Or perhaps her activities make her feel like she is in a relationship, despite what he says.
The best thing you can do is be there for you brother and sister. It is an awkward age for both of them & talking to them about their feelings might help them through this.
I don't even know what to say except that I feel for you and your family. Our mothers sound so much alike and I never learned how to deal with her. Sounds to me like you are a very strong person and a great sister too.
I do just want to say that I really feel for you and your siblings when I read your posts. My heart goes out to you.
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yeah. I've had quite a few of those. Here's the old post if you were curious, but this isn't entirely related.
http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/any-good-self-help-books-for-mom-long-vent
I know there is utterely NOTHING I can do about this (other than vent on weddingbee...) but I'm just sick of my mom's immaturity. I was just talking to my 13 year old brother a little bit and he mentioned how Sunday night they are going to stay at my mom's male-friend's house before they head to an amusement park Monday morning. I say male friend because while my mom is head over heals for this guy and insists that he's THE ONE, he has absolutely NO desire to have a romantic relationship with her. He's not looking to settle down, he doesn't want a girlfriend right now, etc. Which is perfectly fine. He's just coming out of a divorce and I honestly think it's great that he's so upfront and is honestly with himself and other women. But my mom still insists he's the one and is hoping and waiting for him to come around. Ok, whatever. So anyway, I asked my brother if he liked going over the male friend's lake house and he said, no, not really. I asked why, because my mom made it sound like they really enjoyed it, and he said that last time when they were there, the male friend kept complaining until my brother and sister went outside (sister is 16) and then he and my mom proceeded to "do their business" as my brother worded it.
O.M.G! I'm not a prude or religious or anything and I dont feel like a person should have to wait until marriage until they have sex with a person (I didn't) but I DO believe that they should at least wait until they are in a commited relationship, as that's what my mom taught me! (well it started out as telling me I should wait until I'm married, but when I came clean about Mr. Joe, she revealed what she really thought and that the individuals should have a loving commited relationship first).
Regardless, she's just being such a horrible example to my brother and sister. They are at the ages where it's really important to set boundries with them and teach them about these sort of things, and I just don't think she's doing that. I really, really hope that they don't follow her footsteps. She's a mother and with that comes certain responsibilities. Ever since my parents got divorced though, she's just become so much more selfish and rather put herself ahead of her kids, which is really unfortunate. My brother failed a few classes last school year and she didn't care or try to get after him or bother with it really. If me and my college-aged brother had done that... I don't even know what sort of trouble we'd be in because we simply were never allowed to get to that point in the first place. She's not setting any limits for them.
I won't say anything to her about it, because that's probably going out of line, but it just really, really bothers me. At the very least can't she try to keep her behaviors secret or hidden from them?? Besides the fact that it's setting a bad example, it's just plain gross to hear and know about your mother doing those things! It's so inconsiderate.
Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Again.