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I don't think it's a contradiction because the goverment also has the right to regulate these types of things for the public welfare.

This to me is on the same lines of "free speech".  A lot of people have this conception that the right to free speech means they can say whatever they want whenever they want, and that simply isn't the case.  There are also limitations on this, and rightfully so.

i dont think in pa you need a permit to buy them.  in vermont you can buy and carry w/o a permit.  it varies by state.

I think it's important to have both.. I mean, anybody can buy a car if you have the money, but you have to learn how to drive it before getting out on the roads.  These things can be useful, but also very dangerous. While I'm not a fan of guns, I don't have a problem with people safely owning them. But I wouldn't feel this way if any yahoo could buy one, that's for sure.

ditto troubled, i think the law varies by state... and for those states that do have it, MI included, i think it's more of a safety precaution that i can appreciate. FI took the one day class and he said he learned so much and was glad that he took it.

i guess you're right that it's an oxymoron... but i feel a lil safer knowing that ppl in my state needed a permit before purchasing a gun.

@corgi - haha, i agree with you. I want to scream sometimes - i mean, the crazy down the block that pulled a shotgun on the tow truck that was taking his car b/c he parked it on a handicapped ramp does NOT need a gun. The government is never going to come knocking on his door. Maybe the police, since he's a little wild. But there are so many crazies out there that BARELY disguise that they'd like to bear arms on the government. Next weekend / Monday April 19 will be a very interesting day to watch the news. I am so sick of seeing my "patriotic" fellow americans calling our highest officials communists, criminals, hitler, and bringing guns to public events - who's causing the terror here?

That SAID - if someone wants to own a gun in the country somewhere and can handle it responsibly - whatever. Just be safe, and keep it at home, ya know?

So prob the majority of people own a gun in pa, at least those not in cities, but i'm torn on the issue.  My sister goes to vtech and was there when the shootings happened.  The guy who did it had a history of mental problems but could buy several guns.  I donno, there's going to be a black market no matter how you regulate it though so maybe crazies will always have access.

@modern - I like that though u and I probably disagree on most topics (i remember a few from other threads), I can see that we both come to a moderate conclusion in these discussions!  Love differning points of view. I feel like forwarding my state senators the Weddingbee link, haha. This is how you discuss!

@modern - ah.. I can't watch Fox News.  I am ready for a non partisan news network in this country!! I like Rachel Maddow on msnbc, but Keith Olberman blabs just too much. That's why I don't like Fox, either. I can form my OWN opinion. Just report the news! I feel like Fox is always trying to scare us, and Keith is always trying to preach.

@potatoes - i can see where you're coming from. The world is a busy and sometimes scary place. It's sometimes hard to watch the straight news without hearing a lot of opinions and fear mongering or whatever it is that the networks do. I have to take a break sometimes b/c it can get overwhelming. 

hahah, the only time i yell back at the TV is when Miz Palin is speaking. The last thing I yelled about was when she said Obama should be more like Reagan instead of his nuclear program. HELLO! Didn't Reagan suggest the SAME THING with Gorbechev? Reduce by 1/3? Infuriating, haha. It wasn't even a far leap - a simple GOOGLING would do. See, i'm about 10 seconds away from yelling at my monitor. LOL. I'm going back to work!