Post # 1
Need some input. My landlord is trying to sell the condo I am renting (lease is up in August).
She emailed me last night asking if they could have a showing today at 5pm. She keeps saying I have to be home to let them in. Ok, whatever…
I told her I would not be home at 5pm and that they could either do between 10am-2pm while my fiance was home, or sometime after 5:30pm tonight when I got home. No answer last night.
I email her this morning asking what the deal is. She says she hasn’t heard and she will call/email me once she knows. Never heard from her. I sent her ANOTHER email at 4:30pm on my way home asking what the deal is. No reply. (She works at a PD and won’t answer calls).
SO, I get home and someone has definitely been in my condo! They locked both locks, which we absolutely never do, never have. Our walk-in closet door was also wide open. We always close it because of our long haired cat always shedding on our clothes.
So I emailed her, UPSET, because to me this is not okay. It’s like a violation! We had valuables out that would have been hidden and not to mention my underwear on the bathroom floor!!!
No reply yet. Am I in the wrong here?!
Post # 3
nope id be fuckin pissed!
Post # 4
@Jw1724: No, you are definitely not in the wrong to be upset.
See if there is a local tenants’ association that can put you in touch with resources, and educate yourself on local laws governing rental properties. It would also be a good idea to review the terms of your lease. It may be different where you are, but in every apartment I’ve lived in, landlords are required to give 24 hours’ notice before a showing (although they are not required to conduct the showing when tenants are home.)
Post # 5
You’re totally right and I would change the lock.
Post # 6
@Jw1724: Uh yeah, I would be pissed as well. Not to mention that’s ilegal.
Post # 7
@Jw1724: Wow I would totally be pissed off.. Im sorry to hear this I would def get ahold of her and complain about this situtation .
Post # 8
@Jw1724: What does it say on your lease about landlord entry? Usually there will be A Section about landlords right to enter in the event of an emergency or for the purpose of a sale etc.
Post # 9
@Jw1724: That is not LIKE a violation. That IS a violation. Absolutely under no circumstances should anyone have been in your home without your permission. My old apartment complex — not the ritziest place, but not a bad place, either) required like ten forms of agreement before going into my place for an emergency like broken AC in the summer (Phoenix). They should NOT have been in your home.
Edit: I actually just (like ten minutes ago) thought that our property manager / owner (two different people) were in our back yard / trying to get through the back gate. I know the owner is interested in replacing the wooden fence and that it’s his house to do with as he pleases, but in the meantime, WE are the tenants. WE give access. WE unlock doors and gates. After a few minutes of the dogs barking, I went outside ready to go postal (read: very sternly disapprove) of anyone helping themselves to our home without our permission.
Post # 10
It’s illegal for them to do that. I’d honestly let them know that if they can’t work with you, you will be forced to take the matter up with the city.
Post # 11
My lease states “The owner shall enter the rental unti only after advance written notice to the lessees stating a reasonable hour, date and purpose of the requesting entry. The owner reserves the right to enter the rental unit without notice to the lessees only if he/she believes am emergency exists, which requires such access. The owner shall not provide access and/or entry of the rental unit by any person without written authorization from the lessee.”
Okay so, its vague. BUT she had me under the impression that no one was coming today. and then TADA they did.
Post # 12
You are perfectly justified in feeling violated, because it sounds like the landlord insinuated that you’d have to be around for the showing. For the landlord to just show the place anyways is really messed up. You DEFINITELY need to read your lease agreement to see if there are any clauses stating they are allowed entry without your presence (usually it’s in case of an emergency).
I’ve had a similar experience where maintenance people tried to enter my place (while I was nearly naked) and I wasn’t given sufficient notice. I screamed bloody murder at the intruder and raised holy hell over that.
You might want to consider changing the locks (keep the old ones to swap back to after you leave). Good luck.
ETA: Just read your post above mine:
“The owner reserves the right to enter the rental unit without notice to the lessees only if he/she believes am emergency exists, which requires such access. The owner shall not provide access and/or entry of the rental unit by any person without written authorization from the lessee.“
Basically showing the apartment was NOT a damn emergency. And you did NOT specifically give permission, as previously stated in your original post. I would most certainly file a complaint on that!
Post # 13
@Jw1724: To me, that’s not vague at all. In my brain, that says, “While you live here and pay us money (or not, if that’s the agreement), this place is YOURS. We’ll be like your security guards, your fairy godparents, going in ONLY if your home is on fire or you’re flooding another unit or the floor / ceiling caved in. It doesn’t mean we’ll enter when we feel like just to make a sale of a home that is, at the moment, completely and totally YOURS.”
I don’t care if you’re moving. I don’t care if they know you’re moving. I don’t care if you’re leaving TOMORROW. Your. Home. Not theirs.
Post # 14
@Sweet_Tea: My father suggested changing the locks. Is this something I can technically do in a rental unit? I always thought this was not allowed for some reason. She gave a key to her realtor so her realtor has been the one accessing the condo.
ETA: Lease states cannot change locks without permission of owner.
@ellisrobertson: Thank you. I’m hoping for a phone call from her soon to discuss this. I’m so irate right now.
Post # 15
@Jw1724: I would be fuming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s bang out of order! No idea what you should do but I’m sorry this has happened to you! hugs <3
Post # 16
@Jw1724: That’s not vague! An emergency means imminent threat of serious damage or injury. Showing the property is not an emergency. I second the PP who said contact a tenant’s rights group. In many communities, if a landlord enters your home without permission when there’s not a valid emergency, they owe you 3x your monthly rent for every violation. So see how they respond and then decide how to proceed. If they deny it and there’s no way to prove it, at least make sure they know you are aware of your rights and while you have no problem with them showing the place, you do require reasonable notice as described in your lease and by law.