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This is part vent, part confessional and part cautionary tale. It may be long so buckle in.
My guy's guys decided they were going to take him to Las Vegas for his bachelor party. I had a twinge when he told me (scenes from Hangover ran through my head) and initially wasn't too comfortable but I love my guy and wanted him to have a great bachelor party and big blowout with his friends so he went with my blessing.
At first, when I was going through the twinge phase, I did ask that it be a stripper free weekend and he agreed. But then, my rational mind asserted itself and I figured it wasn't a big deal - that even though I wasn't crazy about the idea, it was a bachelor party rite of passage so I said okay to a strip club but I did ask one thing - and that was that they didn't hire private strippers to come to the hotel room. My guy laughed like I was being silly and told me I was reading too much on line.
So guess what happened? Yep, his guys hired private strippers. Now, in my guy's defense, he didn't know anything about it - it was a surprise to him - but he also didn't bother to communicate to his guys that that was off the table. Also to his credit, he told me the truth about it - after I asked him what had gone on and he tried to aviod the subject.
So, I was/am pretty upset. Everything I read about these private strippers was pretty raunchy and sometimes downright disgusting. Some of the things they offer,I would consider cheating (like bed dances, the whip cream game where the guy of honor licks whipped cream off a girls nipples and don't even ask about "feed the kity" - its revolting).
So we've had two huge fights about this. My guy is by turn defensive stating nothing too wild went on and that "it was a BACHELOR PARTY!" and part of him, I think, gets that this is incredibly hurtful to me, particularly since it was the ONE thing I asked that he not do.
In retrospect, I regret not asking him to communicate this to the guys but I also didn't think I needed too (my guy acted like it was so out of the question) and I guess he didn't think he needed too either but one of us should have. So girls, if there is something you strongly object too when it comes to the bachelor party - talk it over with your guy and ask that he clearly communicates to his guys what is off limits. I didn't and now I really, really regret it.
I'm also really angry and resentful of just how utterly disrespectful this was to me and to our upcoming marriage. I really resent that we as women are made to feel like controlling shrews if we don't send our guys off with a sweet kiss and "Enjoy the strippers, honey!" kind of attitude. That we're not cool if we're not down with our guy having naughty time with a sex worker. Why is some naked stranger crawling all over my fiance' supposed to be okay? Why is him doing a body shot off some girl supposed to be so harmless?
I'm also angry at his friends and his brother - the guys who arranged all this and who are standing up with us on our wedding day! I'm particularly upset with his brother because I feel pretty certain he knew full well I wouldn't be okay with that sort of thing but he did it anyway and I think he's an a&&hole for it. I'm angry at my fiance for not saying no when he realized what was going on. I'm angry that guys are SO worried about how they look to their friends - about being cool and above all not whipped - as if respecting your fiance means you're controlled by her.
I'm not sure where I'm going with all this. Ultimately, its not a deal breaker by any means but it is very, very painful and infuriating. I know I have to "let it go" as there really isn't any other alternative but how do you do that? I can't keep beating my guy up for what happened but I also don't know that I can just shrug my shoulders and say, "oh well" because this IS a big deal to me.
And how do I act around his brother and friends now? Part of me knows its best to just leave it alone but part of me wants them to know how much trouble they caused and how upset and insulted I am by what they did.
I also wonder about the future - I mean, he has other friends and relatives that will have bachelor parties and now I don't trust what will happen but I also know he will resent me if I don't want him to go.
Can someone explainto me why we women get put in this position or why its become accepted that guys do this to celebrate an upcoming wedding? Am I the only one who thinks this is insane?
Lastly, if you're the type of woman whose cool with strippers - good for you. I won't judge you for it but please don't lecture me or try to persuade me that this is no big deal please.
I am so so so sorry that you are going through this. I can offer no advice on what to do because I myself am blown away by it all. I did, however, want to thank you for writing this and for writing it so well. Again, I am so sorry that you are going through this. :( ::HUGS::
I am sorry you are having a hard time dealing with this. I think that you need to take a few days then have a discussion with your FH about what will happen in the future with future weddings. As you really can't change the past, but you can agree on the future. I think that this will start to ease the pain a little knowing that the two of you have agreed to the ground rules.
As for the friends, you may just have to drop this one and do your best to forget it. Unfortunitely, some men use bachelor parties as an excuse to behave badly with a free pass. The ones that do are never going to change their minds on this and will only consider you a (not nice word) woman. I have always worked around mostly men and I have heard all the talk. If you really need to get it off your chest simply tell them they crossed a line, and you just wanted to let them know that they hurt you feelings then completely drop it. Men often will respect a woman who is willing to speak her mind then drop it (like they think they do).
Good luck.
I totally feel you on this one, I had the exact same reaction when my (then) fiance attended another friend's bach party. He mentioned something about a lap dance and that was all it took for me to be sick to my stomach at the thought. Honestly, I think it's complete bullshit that, like you said, we're supposed to be ok with the whole concept and if we're not, we're nagging ball and chains keeping our men on a short leash...
Unfortunately, what's done is done and I think the only thing you can really do is express it all to your guy and try to forget it and move on...It does really really suck tho and I completely agree with how hurtful the entire ritual is...UGH!
I agree with all of the PP's that this aspect of bachelor parties is a disgusting ritual and one I won't put up with my guy partaking in. I see it as so inherently disrespectful to myself and his promise to have only me (I mean, he put a ring on my finger!)
I also don't really view myself as 'holding him back' from partaking in these activities because although he is "inherently a guy"... he is a truly classy, respectful man who respects my wishes when I make them clear (and I do the same for him.) So thank you for posting this thread.. when it comes bachelor party time I will make sure to make my wishes quite clear so we can avoid this situation!
As for advice, I'd say have one more convo with your FH about it and then leave it alone. Just let him know how dissapointed you are and how sad it makes you feel. But also let him know that you're willing to forgive on the basis that he won't hurt you like that again. Once you're settled and he's apologized, forget about it and enjoy your wedding day - only a few weeks now for you! :)
To answer your question about why we are 'supposed' to just smile and not care, I would have to go into a really long, feminist rant, which you probably don't want to hear right now :(.
It's a stupid tradition and I'm so sorry this happened to you
. I agree with all the PPs about trying to move on and just ignoring his friends. Thanks for sharing your story, and I hope thinkgs look better soon.
I totally understand why you are upset. Try not to take it personal that the guys provided private strippers, like you said they didn't know it was off limits and if you think about it they were trying to do something 'nice' for your FI. These are his friends and it's really important that you have a good relationship with them going forward, so if anything I'd give them a pretend 'hard time' about it like "I heard what you did at the bachelor party, you're in the doghouse with me!" or something like that the next time you see them with a wink so they know you're kidding. And as far as future bachelor parties, if you are really against this type of thing, then that's soemthing you should work out with your FI ahead of time, if he should even attend. Because now you know what happens, regardless of your wishes.
I agree though, it's totally unfair that we are made out to be the bad guys if we aren't okay with our men getting grinded on by a naked lady. And god forbid we go to a male strip club and do the same thing!
Oh that just sucks! It's horrible to be put in that situation and then to have to see all those guys...grrr...I'm sorry! Thank goodness you have a place to vent about it, right?
I'm with the other commenters, I think you should say something to the guys in a somewhat calm manner. Also, waiting until you have cooled down just a smidge before you bring it up to FH again is another great suggestion. I'm a fan of lists, so maybe you can make a list of what you want to say, how it hurt your feelings, etc, just so you sound a little more in control. I have a tendency to get upset and then ramble, so I know the lists help me prevent that.
Good luck with however you approach it and hopefully all the bad feelings will be cleared up!
This is exactly my fear about the bachelor party, I so identify with you! I really want to be ok with him having a good time with his friends, but I am uncomfortable with the idea of a stripper. He has said that he is not at all interested in having strippers, but hasn't said this outloud to his GM. He just keeps saying they know, because they know him. I feel like he should have a conversation to put everything on the table, so there is no question.
Your story makes me think I really should push for him to make his feelings known. We brides are already stressed as it is with wedding planning, the last thing I want to worry about is this kind of drama right before my wedding. (not that i'm calling you dramatic, I would totally react the same way in your situation) I don't want to be left picturing these horrible images in my head, and having bitterness towards my FI or GM on my wedding day.
I have a pretty great relationship with FH's friends. Anytime I have a concern about the upcoming BP I immediately go to them, voice my concern, and give them an alternative that I would feel more comfortable with and in a way that they still get to have their fun. FH doesn't drink, period. But his friends are the type to get sh*tfaced drunk within an hour. He's honestly dreading his weekend-long BP because he knows it's just going to be him babysitting the rest of them. I feel bad for him because he knows his friends are just using this as an excuse to have a weekend of fun for themselves. I hope everything turns out alright with you and your FH.
Thanks for all the support girls - my fiance' and I will be fine - I just need to work through my anger and hurt feelings (which unfortunately, is easier said than done) but it will happen. I just resent like hell that I'm stuck with these painful images in my head.
To Jolee - I could go for a good feminist rant right now because I'm feeling one coming on myself. I just hate, hate, hate that we (women) are pressured and bullied by so many people (including other women!) to be "cool" with strippers at bachelor parties. That really needs to change.
I totally get how you feel. My ex went to his friend's bachelor party a few years ago, and I was new to dating so I felt like I was *supposed* to just accept that it was something that guys do and move on. Well, I never really did get over it. I am not okay with the idea of strippers and I never will be. I am really lucky with my FI because we aren't really doing a bachelor/bachelorette party. We are just going to have more of a pre-wedding party with our friends jointly. I am sooo sorry you are going through this. It is really tough to let this sort of thing go even though ultimately you know you have to. I also support the idea of writing everything down. Even though you have already been in two fights over the situation, chances are your FI was in defense mode the entire time and maybe didn't even fully listen to why you are hurting. Write him a letter and explain in calmly in the letter, that way you can avoid having another fight but will still be able to convey your feelings. Good luck, girlie!!
That is so low. Not of him, who seemed to genuinely think that it wasn't going to happen, but of the friends, who knew better. I would be so SO SO furious. Like he wouldn't be insulted if you had a naked man wrapped around you, with you licking things off of his genitals. How can anyone see this as OK?
I agree with tksjewelry. Say something to the groomsmen about how hurt and insulted for you and let the subject drop. But they have totally violated your trust andfriendship.
This is why I put bachelor parties off the table from the beginning. I don't need to pretend that I'm cool with stuff - I'm not and my feelings are important, more important than making my husband's friends feel good.
I'm sorry you're hurt and upset. It will get easier, but what you're feeling is valid. Don't be made to feel like the crazy person.
@lisa105: I never turn down the chance!
IMHO, men go to strip clubs because they like to look at naked women. I think it's crap that people say they go 'to hang out with friends' etc, because obviously there are a ton of bars where there aren't naked people milling about.
Strip clubs as a bachelor party idea is founded on the idea that getting married is somehow a death sentence for their manhood. It's ridiculous, they're acting like big children. Why does the thought of having 'only' one sexual partner for the rest of their lives freak them out so much that they have to resort to going to clubs that are designed to objectify women?
Sorry if that offends anyone, it's just my personal view, and also sorry if it doesn't flow very well, my boss keeps walking in :).
I really appreciate that you wrote this. I am going to make sure to openly discuss my concerns about the bachelor party with my SO.
now i have morbid curiosity about this "feed the kitty" business, but i am too afraid to google it lol.
From the very beginning I made it very clear to my hubby that I'm not okay with strippers and/or strip clubs. I know there are some girls that are, and good for them, but it's something that personally drives me nuts and I made it very clear that it's literally a deal breaker for me. I also made it clear to my BIL and the other guys who were going to partake in bachelor party festivities. Happily they all respected my wishes.
I'm so very sorry that you're upset and hurt, I know I would be, too, so don't let him make you feel like you don't have a right to feel like you do.
read this: http://www.indiebride.com/essays/cole/index.html
i don't want to imply that what your guy has done has ruined your relationship forever, but this goes to show you that your feelings are 100% valid. the idea of the bachelor party being something you should just shrug off because it's "tradition" is complete bullshit. the things men do are completely disrespectful to the woman they are supposed to be completely faithful to.
this article also explains "feed the kitty".. EW.
If you have an open enough relationship with his guys, I'd air your feelings. If you can, pull them aside and just tell them, "I was really saddened that you brought private strippers into the room. It was something I had discussed with [FI] and he thought wouldn't happen, but I had to let you know so I didn't keep my feelings bottled up."
@dovelovesfalcon: OOOOH, I didn't know "Feed the Kitty" was what that's called, I didn't even know it had a name!
Before I met my hubby and he was younger, he went to his cousin's bachelor party where the stripper did that...freaking disgusting (he thankfully said he wasn't one of the guys who got a lollipop)! Can anyone say STD?!
OMG, i've never heard of 'feed the kitty' or even knew of that act. That is... DISGUSTING!!!!
The thing that bothers me about this whole thing is not the strippers (personally I tend to be okay with them, probably because FI isn't interested) but the fact that you are dealing with the "Us Vs. Them" mentality of marriage and the community unit. Assuming they did in fact know of them, his friends dismissed and disregarded your feelings.
I agree that giving them the benefit of the doubt is a good approach. Tell them that you told FI no private strippers and you wish you'd let them know as well. Tell them that your feelings were hurt and you feel disrespected, and this is the last you'll say on the matter. Then drop it. I think the only way to "let it go" is to get it out.
Ok wait... did he actually participate in the acts you described??? Because if he did you have everyright to be mad at the groomsmen (for inviiting them) and HIM because of his participation. I think there is a definite line that was crossed if it went from stripping to licking stuff off and doing sexual acts with her... it's almost not stripping but closer to hiring a prostitute.
If this were me, I don't think I could put on a happy face and just suck it up. There was a serious level of trust that was broken. Like Miss Peach Tree said, how would he feel if it was reversed....
I'm so sorry that he and your groomsmen did this and didn't think how it would affect you and your FH's relationship.
Wow, I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. I completely understand your feelings, and I would feel the same way. I'm fortunate that my FH is not the type and pretty much all his friends are married with children already since we are a bit older (late 30's). I am really annoyed at the way society has made these bachelor parties the norm, and women are supposed to go along with it. That is complete BS, and it's wrong. Most of the time, I think it's the guy's friends who think it's the way you're supposed to throw one of these, and the groom gets sucked into going along with it. But being able to stand up to your friends and say no is just being an adult. Peer pressure is for high school. This is ridiculous! I'm sorry I'm not being helpful to you, but this makes me angry too. And the crappy thing is that you have no choice but to just get over it and all that will do is make you resentful and bitter. At this point, the only advice I can give you is just to tell your FI how you are feeling and keep the communication open about it, so you will be able to get it all out. Hopefully,he can listen and not get defensive. I'm sure he feels awful about it, and he was honest with you so that is good. I think the only that is going to make this better is just time unfortunately. But thank you for sharing and I know that you posting this will help someone else who may be in a similar situation.
You are completely right about the wrongness of bachelor parties (and bachelorette parties!) I mean they are disgusting and degrading and any civilized person would be appalled at them.
And no one should feel like a “shrew” because they stood up for their principles. I say that anyone who does not agree with you that that whole scene is a horrible and disgusting ritual can kiss your know what. Also, my BF says most men are horrified at them too but feel too much pressure to participate for fear of alienating the friend who wants it, or worse, people thinking they are unmanly. So they secretly LIKE it when a guy’s fiancée says no strip clubs or strippers-because then they are off the hook and can go bowling or play golf like nonpsychotic human beings.
jo.lee is totally right-marriage is not a death sentence for which you need to spend a night in sexual hell to be able to handle, right???
We had a similar incident where I did not want to let my boyfriend go to someone else’s bachelor party. He thought (rightly) that the groom would be disappointed if he wasn’t there, so I said okaaaaaay. But I was completely devastated by the event, let’s leave it at that. We agreed, no more bachelor parties unless they are of the golfing variety previously mentioned.
As for what you can do, you are right, nothing. I would keep a great distance between my marriage and those bozo friends from now on. Forgive your man as a victim of a sick culture, but make it clear that from this day forward, that stuff is perverse and if he wants to participate in it, he is with the wrong woman! And seriously America, these things are horrible and no one should feel pressure to be involved.
I have to say, I'm one of the girls who's totally fine with strip clubs, and I'd still have a problem with this. Don't be mad at yourself for not communicating this to the guys; your GUY should have communicated this. You're not his babysitter or mom, and you shouldn't have to send his friends with a list of what not to do. If you and he discussed something, then it was on him to make sure it didn't happen. I'd say you have every right to be pissed.
I'm sorry this happened, and I really hope your FI starts being more understanding and that everything works out.
I'm totally fine with strip clubs, up to and including lap dances. Even for me, though, hiring a private stripper would be crossing a line. I'm really sorry your fiance's friends thought this was a good idea, and I definitely think you should let them know that it was unacceptable. I'm sorry, but I don't think it's "controlling" to not want a woman crawling over your future husband in the privacy of a hotel room.
I agree with you too. My husband wouldn't want naked men rubbing themselves up against me- I expect the same consideration and respect in return. This is a statement you should make to your fiance so in the future he speaks up for himself- you shouldn't have to ask for him to give you the same consideration you give him.
lol.. I'm getting angry with your fiance too.
This is really interesting to read and I think if I hadn't witnessed something a few months ago, I wouldn't completely understand. I always assumed that when guy's have a private stripper it would be similar to when girl's have one (I've never seen a male stripper, private or in a club but I'm assuming). Girl's I think, mostly find it funny and amusing to have a stripper. They don't really get aroused or anything like that. Now I thought it was similar for guys in that a girl just does a slutty dance and the guys watch. Boy was I wrong.
I was at a bachelorette party in Charleston this spring and there was a bachelor party at a house next to us. They invited us over to play beer pong and we debated about going but then after about 10 min. we decided it would be fun. So we show up at the front door which was open, walk in, and there is a stripper going to town! I think she still had underwear on at this point but some of us went down to their basement with some of the guys (including the groom) who didn't want to be a part of the stripper madness, but I went up later to use the restroom or something and she was still there, but completely naked and on top of a guy grinding all over him while he touched her!
I think what a lot of guys don't understand is the complete double standard of it. They would be LIVID if we did this. So what I am quickly learning after 27 years (took me long enough) is that while I'm not 100% ok with strip clubs, I can deal with them. Private strippers...no way. Sure guys, do it with your single, pathetic friends who can't get real girls. But to put a committed guy into a situation like that? Not cool.
I hate, hate, hate when people use "tradition" as a rationale for doing something that will hurt someone.
Your feelings are completely, totally, 100 per cent valid.
I am really sorry that you're dealing with this. I know that you are looking back and thinking that you should've told his groomsmen what the actual boundaries were, but you trusted them as much as you trusted your FI. It will be very difficult to just let it go, but in future bachelor parties, you need to make it clear what offends you vs. what you're ok with. I know that doesn't heal the pain of what has already happened, but it will help you to "let" him go to future bachelor parties without looking like you're controlling him to his friends.
My husband just went to a bachelor party last weekend, and even though he told me he's not a fan of strip clubs, I specifically told him, no lap dances. My rule is not to do anything that you wouldn't be comfortable doing in front of me. If you think I would be ok watching you lick whip cream off of another girl's nipple, you have another thing coming pal. We do have a pretty good understanding of each other and what is ok vs. what is not ok, and we try to live our lives away from each other like that.
Again, I know that none of that helps where you are now, and it absolutely stinks that you're in this situation. I would say something to his groomsmen to let them know that you're disappointed that they felt it was ok to disrespect you the way they did. If they tell you it's just normal "guy" stuff, ask them if they would be ok with their wives/girlfriends licking stuff off of guys' body parts...my guess would be no. After you've had the discussion, don't bring it up again. I don't think that you can just completely ignore this with them...you'll always hold this resentment towards them and your relationship won't ever be the same with them.
@dovelovesfalcon: The funny (or not really) thing about that article is that I read it BEFORE the bachelor party - its what made me make the "no private strippers" request in the first place so when he confessed that's what had happened - I went balistic and just sobbed thinking about that article and what went on.
To clarify though, he did get a couple of lap dances and did a couple of body shots off the girls but that was about it - no whipped cream game and no, thank the Good Lord, "feed the kity." (I told you it was revolting!) So bad, but not nearly as bad as it could have been.
We're talking and things have calmed down - I know he understand how upsetting and hurtful this was for me and I feel confident that strippers and bachelor parties are firmly in his past.
As for his brother and the other groomsmen, I think I'm going to say something to his brother - I'm going to ask him whose idea the strippers were and after he answers tell him how much pain and grief he caused me (and us as a couple), that it crossed the line in a huge way and that I don't appreciate either him or my FI gambling with our relationship like that. I think he's having a hard time with the notion that his brother isn't a single guy anymore and I want to tell him that if we're going to be friends, he needs to respect that things have changed - period.
By the way, to the girls who said they were fine with strip clubs but that this would still bother them, THANK YOU. I really appreciate that feedback and will be sure to mention it to my FI.
reading that article made my stomach turn for a few reasons. 1) some men are just NOT who we think they are, and that scares the crap out of me. that man in the article became another person at his bachelor party, someone his FI did not know or could ever imagine. 2) some men seem to become said other person when they have other animals (ie- groomsmen) cheering them on. it makes me question my guy's group of friends and wonder what they find to be acceptable behavior. you just never know. and 3) private party strippers are just plain nasty. skanky. disgusting. ew.
@lisa105: thank you for sharing this. i'm glad your guy didn't take it as far as the guy in the article did, but it's all the same unacceptable behavior that women shouldn't have to turn the other cheek to. you posting this reminded me of a convo i just had with a friend about the definition of cheating. she was in a similar situation as you, except her man was at a friend's bachelor party. there was no feeding of the kitty, luckily, but he did get a little too touchy-feely for her liking, and she considered that as being unfaithful. he argued that he did nothing wrong, blah blah, no intercourse took place, his mouth went nowhere near her (skanky) body, just touched. and that wasn't cheating, or being unfaithful, or wrong at all, he argued. whenever i hear about things like this, i think back to that movie with michelle pfeiffer and bruce willis- the story of us. have you seen it? it's so cheesy, but it's one of my faves. there's one part where michelle is discussing with her girlfriends that she considers even an intimate conversation cheating. "once you establish anything truly intimate with another person, even talking, it has to affect the person you're supposed to be the most intimate with". i think it's so important to lay out what you believe is grounds for cheating with your partner from the get-go. it's not a fun topic to discuss, but it's so important to communicate that. i've been cheated on in the past, in a situation where it was "just kissing, not cheating" (really? c'mon, man.) so i felt it was super important to fully explain what i feel constitutes as cheating with my bf. when i had the conversation with him when we first started dating, i wasn't even thinking as far ahead as a bachelor party, i was just being neurotic and meant in general. but i definitely suggest all you girls out there to have a similar conversation with your dudes, just for general laying it out on the table purposes, and also pre-bachelor party. you never know what he may or may not consider as being unfaithful.
I'm going to be perfectly honest; I don't have an issue with strippers on a stage in front of lots of other people... lots of other nervous people. HOWEVER, I do have an issue with strippers who are in a PRIVATE hotel room trying to get my fiance to lick food items off them. There is a FINE LINE and your hubby's friends crossed it. You have every right to be angry.
I would be ok with strippers at a distance, to me that's a bit like reading a dirty magazine. that is if i knew in advance and it was a once off. all this touching the strippers and nastiness seems more like prostitution to me. Very different and not ok at all
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