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I read online that Lowes (and other companies) have pulled advertising from the show All American Muslim on TLC after a conservative Christian group called on them to do so. Allegedly the show is tricking Americans in to believing that Muslims are just like everyone else and making people forget about the threat of jihad...
I think that's bull and Lowes should be ashamed. What are your thoughts?
It's ridiculous, but sadly quite typical. We seem more than happy to live in a culture of hate and fear, no one seems to want to do anything about it. I say, hit Lowes and Home Depot where it hurts, vote with your wallet, don't shop there!
Aww that sucks. I really like that show! I think that is the whole point- to show that most American Muslims ARE just like everyone else. It sucks what they have to go through when it comes to discrimination. I love opportunities to learn more about people different than me!
Wow this is the first time hearing about this. I don't watch the show because I don't really watch tv but I agree that they should be ashamed for pulling the advertising.
Ugh, that whole thing disgusts me. Conservative Christians are doing more to damage this country than muslims are. Apparently they have forgotten that Jesus was about peace and love, not hate. John Cusak said it best...

If anyone on here actually thinks Lowes was right to pull the advertising I'm appalled - I've already had to deal with my FIL's racist attitude over this. I grew up very close to Dearborn and used to work there, I used to know one of the girls on the show, actually. As well as a ton of other Muslims who, shocker, are normal and nice people. Of course, I've also come across some Muslims who aren't nice people - but hello, I could say the same thing about pretty much any race, color, or religion out there!
It aggravates me way more than I can explain that people are actually ignorant enough to think this way. I had to block my FIL on facebook because he is constantly posting racist crap, and the one time I tried to nicely disagree he said that anyone who doesn't angree with him is lying to themself. OMG can't stand it!!!! DH is always like, "Well, he has always been in little farm towns where everyone thinks that way, and he has had some bad experiences with *insert race/religion/whatever here* so he's just like that." Um, excuse me, living in a racist town is not an excuse for perpetuating it, and I'm pretty sure he's had plenty of bad experiences with people who are the same race and relgiion as him.
I don't really know much about this situation, besides what was said on this thread. But if that was the sole reason for pulling advertising (and not just a media spin), that IS BS. Why does Lowes care so much to listen to the religious groups anyway..?
While I think Lowe's has every right to advertise where they want, I think that this whole thing is disgusting. I'm really sad to see Lowe's persuaded by one moronic hate group.
And why am I not surprised it's a Florida based group that is responsible for this? Man, I love this state.
I'd like to hear from the person who voted no, Lowes was not wrong to pull the advertising...why exactly are they right to pull the advertising?
I heard something about this on NPR yesterday, they mentioned that Lowe's pulled their advertising from the show because it portrayed American Muslims as "too moderate." I think if it was any other subgroup of society, there would be a lot more outcry over this type of xenophopia and discrimination, but it seems that Muslim Americans have become an allegedly justifiable target (like with the "controversy" over building a mosque near Ground Zero).
It makes me sad because like @KatyElle said, it's just born of fear and hate and this type of behavior perpetuates and validates these discriminatory attitudes. Most people of any background are indeed "moderate"--a very small proportion of any population are extremists, but those are the people who get all of the press and drive the fear that leads to this kind of attitude.
It was a very poor decision on their part. Unfortunately this group was loud enough to be heard. Hopefully the rest of us will pull together to be 100x louder.
Squeeky wheel always gets the grease, unfortunately it was the wheel to a unicycle at the circus.
They alienated a HUGE customer base and now they'll have to deal with the consequences.
I think it's perfectly fine to pull advertising for any political reason whatsoever. If they have reason to think this will be a potentially volatile topic for a TV show, then it was smart of them to pull advertising. And if their customers are made up of mostly conservative christians (which is very possible considering the population stats in America) then it was a smart business decision to pull out. It's not like they're speaking out against muslims, they are just making a choice not to be associated with a show. Coca Cola does the same thing with the evening news.
@bree72: While I think Lowe's has every right to advertise where they want - AGREED, I think that choosing where and when to advertise is part of what makes a capitalist society.
Anyway, whether or not Lowes was right or wrong for the way the handle this is another question.
What is important and what I think the bottom line is, hate breeds hate! We accuse one group of hatred (weather it's the "Christians" accusing Muslims or society accusing Christians) and in turn hate on them, call them names and live in the same behavior we are accusing them of. Where is the balance and where does it end?
I think the point of the show is to show that American Muslims are like everyone else and it's time to stop this stigma against them. However, I'm not surprised that ultra conservative groups are asking businesses to pull advertising during the show.
Wonder how long it will take for companies to refuse to advertise during any show that shows a lifestyle other than the "typical American" one.
@moderndaisy: It's not like they're speaking out against muslims
Actually, that IS what it's like. Here is an excerpt from a copy of the letter that was being sent to Lowes from this BS group in Florida:
"Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show."
Here was Lowes response:
"While we continue to advertise on various cable networks, including TLC, there are certain programs that do not meet Lowe’s advertising guidelines, including the show you brought to our attention. Lowe’s will no longer be advertising on that program."
Then when the criticism started rolling in, Lowes tried to backpedal and say it's not because they agree and it's just because it's a controversial issue - although the only controversy I see is coming from bigots. But their initial statements did not say that.
@moderndaisy: I don't get how they aren't speaking out against muslims by backing out of a TV show that shows muslims as normal, everyday people after a group of fundamentalists called for them to?
Controversial? That not every Muslim has it out for Christians and will be a suicide bomber? How is that controversial!
Anywho, I haven't seen the show but I'm fairly certain it's just showing that regardless of religion (or in this specific case Muslim) you can be just like every one else.
"We don't speak out against Muslims, we just refuse to be associated with a show about them."
Uhhhh... same difference?
A good business decision does not equal and good moral/ethical decision (lord knows that is part of the reason why we are in the economic mess we are right now).
We have to decide who we want to be as a country and I hope being a conservative christian does not equal marginalizing a group of people due to stereotyping. In fact I know that is not Christianity.
Do I think they should have pulled their advertising? No. Do I think they have every right to do so? Yes.
I tend to be of the view that most boycotts are a waste of time, but that is certainly an option open to anyone who objects to Lowes pulling their advertising from the show. It would have been nice if Lowes had stood up to this sort of thing, but they are ultimately making a business decision.
What I find sad is not that a corporation would act this way, but that these conservative Christian groups seem to have strayed so far from the message of Christ.
There's a line from the movie Hannah and Her Sisters. Written in the 80s but even more true today: "If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name,
he'd never stop throwing up."
Disgusting. Adding that to my list of where not to give business or charity. Most recent was the Salvation Army last week for their anti-gay beliefs. DH and I love Lowes, but I'm not going there anymore.
Okay, I'd like to start by saying I disagree with the decision and I think it's ridiculous that the show is considered "controversial" at all.
That said, there's a Lowes not to far from my hometown. I don't think I've ever seen any Muslims or anyone of Middle Eastern descent in my hometown. And there are still a lot of racist and unaccepting people there. It's not right, but it's fact. I've found that the Bee is really accepting of other cultures and other ideas, in general, so on here it's outrageous to everyone that the TV show is controversial, but I'm sure a lot of people in my hometown (especially the middle aged, middle class and up) would say that yes, it is controversial, and I think Lowes was trying to cover their butts by pulling advertising. Their customer base tends to be the middle age, middle class group, and at least where I'm from, a lot of those people are conservative and yes judgemental.
I say this as a Christian who believes what @CorgiTales: posted, that really we should be accepting of everyone, but it's just fact that a lot of people are NOT. So we'll just have to wait and see whether the people who do care about this will be enough to affect Lowes' sales.
ETA: I guess what I'm saying is... based on Lowes' customer base, pulling advertising may actually have been a sound business decision, as unfortunate as that is.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how refusing to show their advertisments during a TV program about Muslims who are just ordinary Americans is a good business decision because a fringe group threatened them?
The move didn't seem very American (or Christian, for that matter) to me. I was so disappointed.
On a happy note, the Today Show said that Russel Simmons tweeted that he bought a ton of ad time during the show and the commerical blocks are fully booked now. :)
This is an issue because they pulled their advertising. It is their prerogative to advertise wherever they would like. Initially they thought it was fine to advertise during “All American Muslim” but pulled their ads BECAUSE of a hate group. That’s where the issue lies – and yes, they were wrong to do that.
The title is explicit about what they show is about – they can’t say the show no longer meets Lowe’s advertising guidelines when it once did.
I hadn't even heard of this show before this "scandal" so methinks the conservative christian group's great idea has backfired on them. I'm sure lots of people will now tune in to see what the fuss is about.
Also, bigoted and racist people probably aren't watching "All American Muslim" so I don't see how it is an issue in the first place. Are these people watching the show just to get angry and boycott all the places that advertise there? I would think the amount of people doing this is extremely small and not worth this bad publicity.
You know, just for once it would be nice for a company to make a decision based on "Is this a shitty message to send about how we feel about fellow human beings?" and not "Well, this is the best decision because we don't want to piss off all of our customers who don't agree with people who don't read the bible." Stop blaming everything on the small town, "We don't like your kind around here" mentality, nothing ever changes if people keep acting like that's any reason to do anything.
I personally don't think pulling the ad or not pulling it will affect their business either way, so they should have just done the right thing. This weekend, millions of consumers will pull out those gigantic shopping carts and go shopping for cheap hardware, and not because they care if the store pulled ads on a show about Muslims, but because no one shops at the mom and pop places anymore anyway.
@KatyElle: "Stop blaming everything on the small town, 'We don't like your kind around here' mentality, nothing every changes if people keep acting like that's any reason to do anything."
Hear Hear
I also grew up in Dearborn (still live here!). I, however, went to a small catholic private school through middle school essentially sheltering me from the high muslim concentration in the city. When I entered the public high school it was eye opening! At first i was very nervous about a new "majority" religion, but I took my time to learn and understand AND GUESS WHAT AMERICA, they have the same basic values as Christians!!!
I know a few of the families from the show and all are your average family, with average "American" values.
Our founders came to this country to ESCAPE religious persecution, they GAVE us the freedom to practice whatever religion we want! These people are practicing their religion peacefully so who are we to stop them?!
Back to the poll, I agree that Lowes or anyone else has the right to pull advertising if they feel that is best for their company, however based on their statements I feel that the reason they pulled their ads was crap.
I guess growing up here and living in a community where Islam is present in every day life, I have grown accoustomed to it and more open to people of different backgrounds and faiths.
@KatyElle: Agreed! I hate the "Well, thats the way things are" excuse for bigotry. It is complete and utter bullshit.
@KatyElle: Here, here! I agree, for once I would like to see a company do the right thing instead of bowing to pressure.
I also wanted to clarify the poll is "Was Lowes WRONG to pull the ad". No one is disputing whether or not they have the right to...the question is do you think they were wrong to do so.
Shameful.
Everyone else has already said what I wanted to say. Completely ridiculous. The bottom line always wins.
@KatyElle: completely agree.
Companies pandering to racism, bigotry and hate is just wrong. Businesses are run by PEOPLE. And don't the people making these decisions have any morals or values? Don't they have children that they want to raise to be kind hearted people? What kind of people do they want to be? The kind who allows people to continue their hate-filled ways unobstructed? Or the kind who say: that's okay-- if you're that big of an asshole you don't need to shop here anyways.
The reality is that Lowes is not going to go out of business because a few racists are mad at them. So for maybe a teeny tiny bump in their profits their willing to essentially say they have no opinion on this racism? Come on. Take a stand. Do whats right.
That sickens me. They actually had the cast of All American Muslim on the Anderson Cooper show and wow, some of the audience members were very ignorant. I really like learning about Islam and I appreciate those who are really dedicated to their faith. This is America! We're free to practice any religion we choose.
I never really liked Lowes anyway.
I think it's stupid. if anything (and please don't hate me, I love everyone), they would stop advertising during the show because of the ratings.
@KatyElle: I agree that it sucks. But working in retail I've learned that corporations rarely care about people more than money, unfortunately.
Of course I would love to see that changed. And if I find a way I can actively help change that I will. Unfortunately a lot of people disagree... I wish people would just be more open minded.
@mmr66: I took a history class on Islam in the Middle East and it was really interesting, they really do have similar values. And it's sad that people associate terrorists with Islam because terrorists are so radical they really aren't Muslim at all... they're like the Westboro Baptist Church of Christianity. But nobody bothers to learn about it.
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