Post # 31
In your situation, I’d have a list of 2-3 things your MUA should change immediately, and see if she’s able to pull them off or if you should look elsewhere.
1. A dramatic winged eyeliner
2. More metallic and dramatic eyeshadow
3. Better blending overall (as others suggested, ditch the airbrush – it works great for some skin types, but if you have any kind of dry skin, it can look pretty chalky)
Other changes would be a bolder lip, dramatic false lashes (all the models in your inspo pics have at least one pair of false lashes), a brighter blush, and a highlight contour.
Post # 32
hmbride1 : get a new MUA for you. It’s not a big deal.
also, look for inspo pics with models who have eyes like you do. See how you can’t see the shadow on your lower lid, and your upper isn’t showing a lot, your eyelid isn’t a big area- that’s why it won’t look like the inspo.
without a lot of lid, you have to use other techniques to get that look but again, it’s not going to be the same look. That’s why people thought you didn’t have lashes on (I could see them, but I used to do this for a living)
Honestly, now that you’ve posted your pin up look, I could see building on that look for your bridal look. You don’t have to go full pin up theme or hair, do the bold lip and more subtle, fresh- faced look, it looks great on you.
You could also do a cat eye smoke with pretty neutral lid with a subtle lip, that would be gorgeous on you. You would then do the lower wetline like you like to do. It’s just not going to look like those inspo pics. But it will be gorgeous.
Example of smoky cat eye eye with no lower lid showing (notice the the eyeshadow is more neutral, heavy liner smoke):
Another heavy liner cat eye look on someone with no lower lid show, harkening back to 6os Brigitte Bardot look (but this is Claudia Schiffer for guess)
Post # 33
I think a couple others have mentioned this, but a few of your inspo pics have metallic/shiny eyeshadow– that’s definitely missing in your trial look! I think that with more dramatic lashes and maybe darker lipstick will fix it.
Post # 34
I agree that you need slightly darker brows and the eyeshadow isn’t smoking like your inspiration pictures. She went too light on the shadow and all the pics you like, they all have nun smokey darker eye makeup on.
Post # 35
The biggest difference I see is the eyeliner. Your inspo pics and the pics of yourself that you like all have winged liquid liner (except I think the first inspo, but she still has more dramatic eyeliner), but the look from your MUA looks like you just have really subtle pencil or shadow liner on top. I’m also thinking darker brows would help with the glam look.
Post # 36
hmbride1 : wow, funny that I guessed it! I also think that your engagement pic makeup is better, although, you know, there is also the fact that you WERE happier with it, and it probably shows on your face:). Anyway, yes, the skin looks more full coverage to me so probably the best advice is to ditch the airbrush and go with traditional foundation, that apparently works better on you (It looks like you might have dry skin, I have combination and since I realized I was getting married I started exfoliating and put much more effort on hydration and now heavier foundations look much better on my skin, so maybe you might also want to do that? i want to underline that your skin looks perfect and very beautiful in every picture, so this is not to imply that it needs improving!). The bee suggesting you to build up on the pin-up look has a point, because it suits you a lot, but I think that you could still go with the glam, with thicker eyeliner, full fake eyelashes that are longer at the outer corner, slightly thicker/darker brows. Having a slightly hooded lid, like I have, implies that winged eyeliner is very difficult to draw, and could turn out very differently from the results in your pictures, I know about this because I have it. If you want it, you might want to study by yourself were you have to place the line, with your eyes open, and then ask your MUA to replicate. In my experience I never met a MUA that could draw my line the “right way”, they would follow the line of my mobile lid just to the end, making the eye look down turned. Fake eyelashes help a lot anyway:) you will look great!
Post # 37
Hmm.. I’m not a makeup artist but I think you’re right about the brows, they could stand to be filled in some more. Like other posters mentioned, I would go a little more dramatic with the eye makeup (darker and fuller lashes, more smokey eyeshadow with a pop of shimmer in the middle of your lids, etc.) but I would also suggest that she use a gray or dark brown colored liner in your waterline and then use the black eyeliner just under your lashes. That’s just my two cents. Either way, you will look lovely on your wedding day.
Post # 38
Like everyone has said, it’s underdone.
I also gave my original MUA artist a few of the pics you have posted for inspiration, because I usually wear a decent amount of makeup and wanted to be full on glam for the wedding. Her idea of dramatic makeup was to put less on me than I usually wear. I ended up finding another MUA because I just don’t think the other one got what I was looking for. I had also requested blush eyeshadow and she gave me purple and it was extremely dark, go figure. I think you could find a better artist who can give you what you are looking! It is your wedding and it was super important to me to be happy with my makeup!
Post # 39
I really like the makeup from your engagement shoot. I think something like that with more dramatic eyelashes would be beautiful as a wedding look!
Post # 40
I think the other issue I’m noticing is that it seems like the blush and lip colour don’t match. Maybe that’s just me – but to me, the cheek colour is very warm, while your lips are quite a cool tone. All your inspo pics seem to have pinky or peachy nude lips, while the lip colour you have is very berry looking to me.
Post # 41
hmbride1 : I think looking at your reference photo you need your eyebrows shaped and penciled in, thicker eyeliner with extended flick, less Brown eyeshadow and more pinkish silverfish tones, a lighter soft pink lip and better light face contours. Plus a creamer foundation for better coverage.
Hope that helps x
Post # 42
I definitely like you’re engagement photo better than your trial. It looks more blended. I would build off of that for your bridal look, and definitely go a lot darker on the eyes.
Don’t feel bad at all contacting them and expressing your concerns. Tell them what you like and dislike from the trial. If they want to keep your business they should be willing to do a second trial. Don’t settle till your happy!
Post # 43
Thank you so much everyone! I seriously cannot thank you enough!!! Your suggestions, references, etc. mean SO much to me!!
Now I guess I have to decide if I want to go with the MUA or try to find someone else. I might try for another trial. I just kept saying “I don’t feel made up enough” and she didn’t seem to know what I was saying. I don’t know if that’s my fault for not explaining better or if perhaps she just is more of a natural makeup artist and doesn’t do much glam. She actually does hair too apparently, so I’m not sure on her portfolio which brides she did their hair versus their makeup.
This vendor came to me via my planner. She said they’re always professional and run on-time which is important for a large group. I don’t want to cause any problems as I do believe my planner works with this vendor a lot. I also know my planner tends to specialize in different weddings than mine where the brides typically prefer very very natural looks. I did tell my planner that I wanted someone who could make me feel a bit glamorous. I am pretty non confrontational (it was actually very hard for me to tell the MUA that I didn’t like the foundation and didn’t feel like I looked “glam” but eventually gave up). Any suggestions about how to approach the situation? Should I tell my planner I wasn’t happy? Should I contact the business owner and tell her that upon reflection I didn’t really feel comfortable with the makeup?
I’m only contracted for the number of services I’m getting. I could have my mom or grandma take my place instead but I feel like that would be rude.
Post # 44
Just had a follow-up question since you ladies have been SO HELPFUL! I know now what I DO want but I’m not sure if I should try and find a new makeup artist or try and fix things with the artist that I already have.
I sent my photo around on Facebook to a few acquaintances I know who are makeup artists (but unfortunately don’t live near me) and they were….very harsh on her work. They said my makeup was extremely poorly done and if I showed her the “glam” photos and this was the result…..my only hope is to try and find someone else.
Do any of you think that the makeup was poorly done? I didn’t necessarily think it was bad, but it just wasn’t what I asked for at all. The firm that I hired is extremely busy and probably wouldn’t be able to do a second trial until a few weeks before my wedding…which is why I’m wondering if I should just find someone else.
I have a non-binding contract with them to do all of my bridesmaids. I did not sign anything so in theory I could cancel at any time but I would just feel bad as they’ve had my date “booked” for several months. I also don’t want to ruffle feathers with my planner as she works extremely closely with this firm. I just feel very stressed out. I think in an ideal world, I’d still have them come and do the bridesmaids hair and makeup (since most of them desire a more “natural” underdone look anyone) and then just find someone new for me…but unfortunately, everyone I’ve contacted has a 5 person minimum.
Not sure what to do but I would appreciate it if anyone could elaborate on my friends’ comments that the makeup was “badly done.” I am usually not critical at all and usually happy with everyone and anyone that I hire, so I just don’t get it.I also want to give her a fair shot if she is a good MUA and maybe just had a bad day. However, my MUA friends said that the fact that she didn’t use any sort of primer, that I asked for glam and they did no contour or highlighting, no setting spray, and the blending of the eyeshadow indicates a “nonprofessional” look. I want to be fair to the MUA and I’m not sure if my friends are just being overly critical.
Thank you again bees! I know have a very concrete list of what I want. Just have to decide if I’m going to risk giving her another shot or if I should find someone that does more “glam” looks.