Post # 1
I found this on Pinterest with the caption, “She was a size 12, not a size 0.” These are measurements straight from her dressmaker.
Her bra size is listed as a 36D on the site where the measurements came from.
I find it very interesting that this is a “size 12, not a size 0” because, well, let’s compare her to me:
Bra size: 32D
I couldn’t tell you what my other measurements are (neck, calf, thigh), but I am a size 0/2. At 4″ taller and 2lbs lighter, a much smaller waist, and slightly larger chest…she’s a size 12?
It doesn’t really matter, but I’m just confused. I realize that sizes used to be very different, but I hardly think that a size 12 in the 1950s/60s would equate to a 0/2 today. Thoughts?
Post # 3
@vorpalette: haha, I think this falls into the category of “real women be proud!” propaganda. It’s great and all that we’re trying to make curvier women feel better about their bodies, but I’m not sure how lying about what size Marilyn Monroe was (since you can tell just from looking at the picture that she’s obviously very slim, regardless of her measurements) does anything to help that cause … ?
CINDY CRAWFORD WAS A SIZE 20! LOVE YOUR BODY NO MATTER WHAT!!!
Post # 4
Ive heard she was everything from a size 8 to a 16. Her dress size myth just helps to make some larger women feel better when in reality her measurements show her to be a false idol, she was a small woman no ifs ands or buts about it. She was curvy and tiny. Theres plenty of gorgeous plus size models to use as examples of larger beauty but ppl always go for monroe who was a small woman. Anyways thats my soap box. I’m a size 10 in todays measurements and my measurements are 38-31-38, 32F chest. Back then I probably would have been much larger than a size 10, vanity sizing has gotten insane.
Post # 5
@iarebridezilla: i’m an actual (2013) 12. and i can tell you… i would be eating cupcakes 24/7 in celebration if those were my measurements. and i’m pretty sure even if i somehow miraculously became a fitness fanatic and worked out all day long and ate ridiculously healthy and SOMEHOW lost like… 80 lbs. i still wouldn’t have a size 23″ waist.
i think the difference in our culture is that waif-like slimness is considered much more attractive/desirable (just look at bridal models!)… i think back then it was considered sexier to have curves. so Marilyn might have had curves. but they were teensy ones. i love her all the same, although it would make me feel better if she were a real size 12.
Post # 6
Based on my knowledge of today’s sizing, she would wear a 6, maybe an 8.
Post # 7
According to this, she’s 5.5 inches taller than me and two pounds lighter. I have no idea of my dress size, but I know I am a jeans size 4. I doubt she was a 12. I agree this is all propaganda to try and make larger women feel better. Not that trying to boost people’s self esteem is a bad thing, but I don’t see how lying about a celebrity’s size will really make them feel better?
Post # 8
Actually, what a lot of people fail to realize is that sizes have changed DRASTICALLY since the 1940s. As one who had a deep seated love for vintage clothes, it was shocking the first time I tried on a vintage dress in my normal size and it came nowhere close to zipping. I thought it was just the dress – washed incorrectly, maybe incorrectly tagged, etc. Nope. Luckily the salesperson explained to me that anything from the 1940s-1950s, particularly anything designer would need to be several sizes larger than modern clothes, late 1960s-1970s are pretty close, maybe just a size larger.
Supposedly the sizing shift was a way to make women buy more clothes. You’re more apt to buy a new dress if you try it a smaller size than you’re used to, and it fits well. You think “Oh, I must have lost weight!” and buy the dress.
Post # 9
They should idolize real plus size women not myth ones like monroe as she wasn’t anywhere close to plus size. Teer wayde is beautiful and plus size, shes the first I could name but there are others
Post # 10
I think that sizes are changing to make women feel better about their bodies.
I think size 12 back then was certainly a LOT smaller than size 12 today.
For me it’s quite annoying… I’m a different size in like every store. Argh!!
Post # 11
vintage sizing was different back then. i agree with ohmybears, she would be about a 6/8
Post # 12
@vorpalette: I was just about to say…there is no way she is a size 12! At least not to our standards. Also, I have read about you eating bread sticks and other yummy things…and you’re still tiny! I like you, but I also don’t 😛
Post # 13
Hmm…interesting. I’m taller, but she’s pretty much my size (except my hips are a 40) I wear a 4/6
Post # 14
I have a vintage size 12 dress, wore it a lot in highschool.
I think I was a modern size 6 or 8 then, so while she may have been a 12, it’s a different size now.
Kind of like how companies like American Eagle change their sizing to make you feel better. When the same pair of pants is a size 2 at one company but a size 4 at the other, and the customer cares about weight… which one do you think the marketing guys hope they’ll shop at?
Post # 15
5’5″ 118 is only slightly off from my own measurements: I’m 5’4″ and about 110-115 (depending on the scale) and an a size 0-2 jean/dress.
Post # 16