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You can eat pizza if it's just plain cheese, veggie, or white pizza. I had to go through this every Friday during Lent with my grandmother for 21 years. It was usually pizza or white spaghetti for dinner. It sucked hardcore after awhile. OR we would have crab cakes. That was my favorite.
I am not Catholic, and my husband doesn't really practice but from what I gather from being around his family is that they try to abstain from meat during Fridays in Lent. To them this doesn't include seafood, only like beef, pork, chicken, etc.
@Ms. Meowerson: Bahahahaha!!!
@cyndistar3: Um, yeah I'm Catholic and we do that during Lent. We usually eat some type of fish, or anything without meat.
Jesus was crucified on a Friday so it's in observance of his sacrifice.
Copied this from a website:
This is what the new Code of Canon Law brought out in 1983 says about the matter:
Canon 1251
Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.
That's an interesting question. In my family, meat on Friday is a sin. And that would be any Friday. My FMIL is convinced that this is only the case during lent.
I found other differently interpreted rules between our families as well. We are getting married during lent, and my mother thought we could not have music and dancing, while my FMIL said that would not be necessary.
It wasn't just for lent, it was all the time. That is why I thought it was odd.
This is true but only during the period of Lent which is between Ash Wednesday and Easter (46 days total) although dairy products are still acceptable.
Many Catholics do not eat meat on Fridays during Lent. However, there are some more "traditional" Catholics that do not eat meat on Fridays ever, year-round. It's like a constant reminder that Jesus sacrificed his human body for you, so you can sacrifice eating meat once a week.
So I guess my family is more traditional. I also learned that you should not eat meat during ALL of lent, and fast during the last week.
My Dad was raised in a strict Catholic family back in the fifties/sixties and this rule was most definitely enforced, and apparently it was every single Friday. He grew up thinking he would burn in hell if he ate meat on a Friday, among other things.
@cyndistar3: I was referring to her getting an entire cheese pizza to herself.
@cyndistar3: You can find that Canon (and all others) here: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P4O.HTM
In the United States, we are only required to abstain from meat on Fridays during Lent. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has determined that US Catholics may perform another act of penance (such as a prayer) on Fridays outside of Lent. If someone wanted to, they could continue to give up meat on Fridays outside of Lent as this act of penance, but that's not required.
@cyndistar3: It's from here
It actually says "Most Catholics think that Vatican II did away with the requirement of not eating meat on any Friday of the year. Most think it is now just Ash Wednesday and the Fridays of Lent that we cannot eat meat. ... Canon Law still requires that Catholics not eat meat on Fridays!"
I don't really understand the website because then later it says "National Conference of Catholic Bishops (the United States' Episcopal Conference) is currently debating whether to rescind the determination [that you can do penance of your choice instead apparently] and require all Catholics to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year."
I guess it's understandable why there's confusion when different groups say different things.
@kala_way: There's only 1 governing body for the US, and that's the USCCB (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops). This is an episcopal body that consists of all Bishops in the Untied States.
The website is just confused. What I said above is true. In the US (keep in mind that it could be different in other countries) no meat (fish are not considered meat) during Fridays during Lent. An act of penance of your chosing during Fridays outside of Lent. No meat on Fridays year round would meet that requirement.
Also, keep in mind that the "no meat" rule is meant to show sacrifice on the day Christ was crucified. So if you're a vegetarian and never eat meat, you should sacrifice in some other way (like saying an extra prayer) to remind you of Jesus' sacrifice.
Also, this is considered a discipline (Church's rule) and not Divine Law, so if you're free to disagree with the rule (but you should still follow it) and the Bishops are free to change it for whatever reason they want.
My grandmother is a devout Catholic..no meat on Friday's EVER.
@Dollygold: Oh lol if we ever had cheese pizza I would definitly think she was a genius!
Thanks, these are some great answers. The thing that bugged me the most about it is that she couldn't give us any answer as to why she couldn't other than "my mom said not to". But that is just because I like to know why I am commiting to something.
I'm not Catholic, but I went to a Catholic high school. The only time there was "no meat on Friday" was during Lent.
I went to a super Bible Belt elementary school. I think there were about 4 Catholics out of 600 in the school.
But every Friday the choice was pepperoni pizza (the gross rectangle kind) or fish filets.
Anyone else's school like that? I think that when it was required to not eat meat during Friday, it just became habit and they never changed.
I only give it up on Fridays during Lent. But I don't eat meat every day anymore. When I was in college, it was a struggle. But not anymore.
Maybe I will do it every Friday since I try to eat vegetarian some days anyway. Partly as "giving something up" and partly for environmental reasons (which I consider to be intertwined with my spiritual beliefs anyway)
We are both Catholic but we don't follow everything. It's not unusual - my Grandmother still has meat free Fridays as that is the way she was brought up. But my parents never used that rule on us growing up.
In NZ it is a kiwi tradition to have fish and chips on a Friday night and that is supposed to be based on the Catholic tradition of no meat on Fridays but you can have fish. I have also heard that it was popular during the war as meat was hard to get and expensive but have nothing to back this up it was just something I heard!
I know it can vary country to country but this is no longer the case any more in the UK. These days it has been decided that each individual Catholic is to decide what is a suitable act of penance for themselves. For example, no meat on Fridays wouldn't be much of a sacrifice for a vegetarian or someone who just doesn't like meat anyways. We have to decide what we should give up. It should be something we might miss or else there is no point. Or it can be a case of saying an extra prayer on Fridays etc.
Perhaps your friend just thinks it's easier to stick with the giving up of meat as her penance, in which case she isn't wrong in any way, it's her choice.
Not sure if all this applies in the U.S but I'm a recent convert and this was one of my first questions at RCIA, and this is what i was told.
And yeah, it is still applicable during Lent.
So...I do abstain from meat on ALL fridays.
{BUT one can change the penance if one needs to on all fridays OUTSIDE of Lent.}
To all the other Bees. This is actually the rules at the moment/Each area does stipulate its own small change, but it doesn't diverge much!
@CatholicBeeIn the United States, we are only required to abstain from meat on Fridays during Lent. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has determined that US Catholics may perform another act of penance (such as a prayer) on Fridays outside of Lent. If someone wanted to, they could continue to give up meat on Fridays outside of Lent as this act of penance, but that's not required.
It actually says "Most Catholics think that Vatican II did away with the requirement of not eating meat on any Friday of the year. Most think it is now just Ash Wednesday and the Fridays of Lent that we cannot eat meat. ... Canon Law still requires that Catholics not eat meat on Fridays!"
"National Conference of Catholic Bishops (the United States' Episcopal Conference) is currently debating whether to rescind the determination [that you can do penance of your choice instead apparently] and require all Catholics to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year."
I guess it's understandable why there's confusion when different groups say different things
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I have a friend who is Catholic, and every friday we have pizza at youth group (nondenominational christian church) for the longest time she refused to eat pizza because she said Catholics cannot eat meat on friday. I am very curious, is this true?