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Ugh. First off, she refuses to deal with me. Everything has to go through her son. Not that I need her to call but honestly, I know more about what we NEED for this kid than he does at this point and it scares me that he can't get her to realize we don't NEED a whole bunch of homemade items we NEED what's on our registry.
Now, she's all upset that we aren't going to find out the sex of the baby so she can make things. What in the heck is stopping her from using yellow, green etc to make these items (which I have no idea what they are anyways)? Oh, that would be nothing.
I'm totally not a sentimental person and these homemade items totally frustrate me because I know she'll spend most of the money that they would have bought something we NEED and then end up with yet another usless item (she's notorious for buying absolutly worthless things that you can never even exchange for the right size or something) and then a whole bunch of homemade things.
Yes, don't tell me I'm being a brat. I just wish people were more realistic with what they want to gift babies. Neither of us want a pile of pink or blue items and there's a lot of people that just can comprehend this!
You're not being a brat! I would be reacting the same way. This is going to sound terrible, but when I receive gifts I'm not going to use and that will just sit around, I leave them at the gifter's house on "accident." If It wasn't important enough for me to remember to take it it makes them think twice about it IMO.
As a knitter, you would be on my "not knitworthy" list. Think about it this way, in the future, will your kids be happy to have a beautiful blanket or clothing made by their grandma? My mom has saved a lot of the baby stuff she made us for our kids. To me, that's an heirloom and a meaningful gift. On my wedding day, we took apart the stitches from my christening bonnet and pinned to my bouquet. It was a meaningful gift, not at all practical when I was just born. But it took on a lot of meaning on my wedding day and the day before when my mom unstitched it and cried as we did it. Not all shower gifts have to be practical, they can be heartwarming especially when your child grows up and passes it down to their kids regardless of color. Also, I just finished a beautiful minty green blanket requested by an expecting friend.
@carrieknitscake:I'd agree that one or two nice hand made gifts are absolutely wonderful to receive. However, when every single item she NEEDS is being brushed off and replaced by hand-knit things that will go into storage until the child is an adult...it's hurtful. It really feels like a slap in the face. "What does your kid need a changing pad for when I can make it a Christmas stocking?" Sorry, I'm just not seeing it.
Like I said, hand made christmas stockings are awesome! (I still have mine from when my grandmother made it for me as a baby) but would it kill the OP's MIL to buy her something she really needs?
Cna you maybe suggest one or two things that she can make for you and then say that is enough and let her go on her way?
There are tons of cute stuff for babies that you can make yourself:
Maybe pick a few things and go pick the colors/materials to help show her being team green isn't so hard.
Anyways, I do get your frustrations that you NEED stuff on your registry. Blankets are cute, but you need a carset and diapers, etc. We are also team green because we don't want tons of cutsie blue/pink stuff. We want to stick to the gear that we need that will be able to be used for future babies.
I'm not trying to be rude here, but honestly what is the deal with everyones sense of entitlement about baby showers, weddings, and everything else? Why not just buy the things you and your husband need yourself instead of getting angry that people aren't buying what you want? I'm not trying to call you a brat, I understand the frustration, but I guess I don't understand why you would make such a big deal out of how she choses to spend her own money.
I agree about the entire she won't call you directly thing though. My mother does that to my husband and it absolutely drives him insane. However, do you thinks he doesn't call you because you seem less than enthused about the nice things she's trying to do?
I'd just stop the frustration now by making plans to purchase what you need yourself and be thankful about the gifts you do receive for your LO during your shower, Homemade or not.
@nskillet: Not trying to threadjack, but it is hard when you really want certain items and then someone goes out and buys something useless.
For example, at our wedding, a cousin gave us a cross knit (or something) frame with a house and our names under it. We got three different frames with our new name in it and the whole cross knit thing isn't really my style. To be honest, I appreciated the gift and the thought and time that went into it however, I threw it away and kept the frame. There was no reason for it be dusty on a shelf for 20 years.
@SecretName: You hit the nail on the head. The items that she wants to do are things that a) will be probably kitted in a non-washable fiber and b) thus will be unable to be used daily with the baby. I will just end up buying a box and tissue and storing it until the child is old enough to either use it themselves in their own home or store it in their own home.
I don't mind homemade things if they are useable. A kitted blanket that I can't wash is not useable, nor practical with a baby.
People reigster because those are the things that they NEED (ok, and sometimes want) to be able to raise the kid. None of the items are more expensive than I would spend myself on the item if they were never purchased for us, so I am more than prepared to buy them myself.
I don't think you're being a brat. I know some people think it's crappy to want the things on a registry over home-made or other miscellaneous items - but why give something that is of no use to the recipient? It's one thing to receive home-made items that you need and have asked for (bedding, receiving blankets, bibs etc) it's another to get a random knitted hat for a summer baby because someone just wanted to make one.
I 100% would rather NOT have someone go thru the time and expense of throwing me ANY sort of shower if I was just going to end up with a bunch of stuff I didn't need or can't use for 12 mos. It's just something else to store at that point.
Plus it's frustrating to know that people spent time or money on something because they didn't worry about your needs and you still don't actually have the things you need to care for your baby.
Sorry, but when I give a gift I always think about the person receiving it, otherwise, what's the point? My grandpa once gave my grandma a basketball for her birthday because he wanted to buy one - I'm sure no one told her to "just be grateful" because what was she going to do with a basketball?
Your not being a brat!! I would just call her if I were you.. Your man obviously isnt getting this across, so your up to bat now. If you dont want to be more frustrated later I would be totally up front and honest now.. then if she throws all you say to the wind then be mad.. but dont stress now..
a tip for you.. when we had our baby shower, my mom organized it all and said to OUR family.. not his lol ok the kids (my FI and I) really need to get the most out of this shower as they can, so she said if you cant afford an item go in on it with people and she assigned people to certain gifts with others so we got everything we needed and nobody had to pay more than 20 or so dollars but we had a huge shower maybe close to 65 people.
My mother is very direct if you cant tell. Some people arent like that and dont like taking that approch.(its viewed as rude.. naturally) but just a thought.
@Miss Sapphire: This distinction b/t useful/nonuseful helps a lot. In the case that they are cutesy, difficult-to-take-care-of tchotchkes, I totally see someone in my fam doing this and it already annoys me--even in theory. You can't force her to buy off your registry, but you don't have to give in to her "I wanna make a blue elephant kleenex box cover!!!" either. I wonder if your DH could drive a compromise in that she could look at the registry and make an item that's already on the registry. I mean if there's something that could be feasibly replicated by hand on there, of course, like clothes...
Haha I LOVE the MIL stories! They crack me up. Ide say just let her do her thing. Most people get alot on their registry anyway. I would say tell her green and yellow will be the theme but maybe you dont want her to know that so she will be forced to buy an item off your registry. Although it would be nice to get a big item off it from MIL. It is what it is. Good luck! Tell your Hubby to tell her you want somethign off the registry!
As a person that crochet's, I understand why she wants to make you things. I always make afghans for my friends when they are pregnant, but I also buy items off of their registry, too. Even if I can only buy a can of formula or a few small items, it's still something that they need. I hate giving them just an afghan, while it is special, it isn't as useful as most of the registry items are. Can you suggest to her that she try to do both? Even if she gets something small, it's still something.
@Miss Sapphire: I knit all of my baby blankets/items in machine washable yarns aka indestructable acrylic. I wouldn't knit anything for a baby in cashmere or a wool/cashmere blend. Most knitters wouldn't want to drop $50 on yarn/blanket that's going to be destroyed by a baby and their fluids.
guess I'm of the unpopular opinion again, what ever happened to being a gracious receiver; that's why gifts are called gifts, it is given, can you just receive it with a smile and be grateful?
@carrieknitscake: That's super nice of you! Her favorites, based on items we've gotten before from her, are mohair, angora and wool blends. All hard to wash.
@ilovenycmissie: agree yet disagree- why as a "gifter" do you want to give someone something that they wont like or cant use?? I understand if you have NO knowledge whether or not they would like a shirt or something but when someone is having a baby and you are WANTING to get them something- think about them also or whats the point? Its one of two things 1. your gifting the person because you care about them and want them to ahve something they want/need or 2. your gifting to make yourself look good so you give them what you want them to have?
@ilovenycmissie: agree yet disagree- why as a "gifter" do you want to give someone something that they wont like or cant use?? I understand if you have NO knowledge whether or not they would like a shirt or something but when someone is having a baby and you are WANTING to get them something- think about them also or whats the point? Its one of two things 1. your gifting the person because you care about them and want them to ahve something they want/need or 2. your gifting to make yourself look good so you give them what you want them to have?
@ilovenycmissie: I have a hard time with this; being gracious is of course how I try to act, even if the gift is not quite what we want. But its hard when I know people are spending a lot of money on things that we know we are not going to use.
It's easy enough when something can be returned i.e. we got a Keurig for our bridal shower, but we already have a great coffee pot, and I registered for a tea pot. I thanked the giver, wrote a nice thank you note and we returned it to get some things we needed for the kitchen.
BUT what do you do when you get a ton of handmade stuff that you have to store? My FI and I aren't even married, but in the last 3 years, we've received three blankets from family members. They're great, but we live in a tiny apartment and can't store them. We've kept them all, but if we get a fourth, I don't know what we'll do.
Ultimately, I just feel horrible when I know that I'm just going to get rid of something because we just don't need it/have the room for it. I just wish gift giving wasn't such a touchy subject. My parents are great about asking what we really want, and I LOVE getting gift cards to the grocery store, gas station and cash. His parents on the other hand won't do it on principle, and give us gift cards to restaurants we don't go to...
I can understand where you are coming from and I'm a knitter. While I make many gifts for people - I usually exchange homemade gifts with people who gift me homemade things (my mom, my best friend, FMIL - mainly)
And while my FMIL gives us nice things (bought and handmade) often, we also get lots of crap. She is retired and goes shopping lots, but of course only for sales!! We've received lots of useless stuff from dollar stores and discount places. The odd time it's something nice, but mostly just crap!! It's kind of frustrating. Her and my FFIL found a broken coffee table in someone's trash. They made it into a bench for us. We didn't want a bench. It broke some months later ... because it was a flimsy coffee table not meant to bear weight! So now it's broken and we've yet to truck it out to the dump. *sigh*
If she's in a financial position to help you out - maybe just ask her for some cash towards an important purchase? Either way she's going to make you tons of knit stuff that you may or may not want. Could you tell her that you're excited for the handmade stuff, but you really really need some money for a crib or something? You may feel strange doing that - but she's family now.
Can your FI just flat out tell her that you guys don't want/need that stuff? Sometimes being direct works?
the TV in our living room died on us a few months back, and now my dad is convinced that we need a new one. We don't watch that much TV and honestly haven't noticed it missing from our lives. We do not want a new TV. My dad mentioned for a month about how he was going to get us a new TV because we need one. I flat out said "we do not want one and I will return it if we get one". And I haven't heard it mentioned again. I was just frustrated that he felt he knew better than me what we needed/wanted in our own home, so I decided being direct was the only way. That won't quite work with handmade stuff, but maybe taking a more direct approach? "mom, we only have room for x amount of blankets?"
I just sent possibly the sappiest email (complete with pictures of some of the items on our registry that I'm excited most about) to her. I told her that her son mentioned she wanted to make something and that a blanket (A, 1 blanket) would be great in green, just like the sheets we want at XYZ and the color we're using on the wall, etc. Hopefully she gets the hint and checks out the registries and buys and knits away accordingly. Kill em with kindness, right? Even if the kindness is out of pure frustration?
As for being gracious while accepting a gift: that was never ever the issue. It's one thing to complain before and after the fact but NEVER in front of the gifter. That's just plain rude.
@PrairieGirl: My MIL loves shopping sales. Drives me nuts. Especially for gifts.
@Miss Sapphire: My mom loves shopping sales too. I've even tried to tell her just because it's $1 or 2 doesn't mean it's worth getting. We have a few baby items that are just atrocious bc my mom found them for $1 or 2 and couldn't resist (like a onsie with brown tulle that's coming off a bit and so now I think would make baby look like she was taking a poo). I've had to teach myself to give stuff away, I felt bad for a long time for giving away gifts of clothes she'd give me and then she'd wonder why she hadn't seen me wear them but I just don't have a big enough closet and I'd rather keep the clothes that actually fit right and are my style. So I feel your pain but I also just try to keep in my head 'she means the best, she's not secretly trying to clutter your closet with stuff you (and now baby) will never wear or have room for or make you feel guilty'. That being said I've been impressed with her through pregnancy, she has listened to some of the likes/dislikes I have and what plans are for the nursery and taken them into account (which didn't always happen before - last year she gave me a pepto bismo pink rug for my blue bathroom and said I was being fussy for not wanting to use it because it didn't match the rest of the bathroom). Besides for buying me a bunch of dollar store stickers that she insisted were the same as the nursery decals I told her I was going to get for the babies room she's been pretty good about keeping it in check.
What is it with MILs and shopping these kinds of sales??? My husband's mother (not the MIL I talk about here, who is my FIL"s FI) does that, and always buys us such random things. We got a really nice honeymoon picture frame from her, which I honestly love and think it is the best thing she has gotten us as a present since we have been together
The most useful advice I have ever read anywhere: "You cannot change anyone's behavior but your own." You say that your MIL doesn't want to deal directly with you--you can't make her. You say your husband "doesn't know" what the baby needs--you can tell him, but otherwise you can't make him understand and communicate how you want him to with his mother.
All you can change is your own behavior and how you react to your MIL. I understand that you are frustrated--as a bride who didn't register anywhere for her wedding, I have received my share of gifts that are not really up my alley. My husband and I don't drink wine, yet we received 14 bottles of wine and a crystal wine coaster from a group of well-meaning people. I use the coaster as a candy dish and have hostess gifts for the next 14 parties I attend. :)
You have to take the long view--your MIL will be the baby's grandmother, and the less animosity there is between the adults, the better off the kid will be. Too many hand-knit tchotkes are a drop in the bucket. Continue to be gracious, and don't try to make her give something else when she clearly doesn't want to.
Phantom, well written!! I agree entirely with this statement.
I have never understood people getting frustrated about not getting what they want from a shower that they aren't hosting for themselves. I mean, why bother with those feelings?? If you go into it not expecting anything you'll always be happy with the outcome. I have received my fair share of weird gifts from people but usually have a laugh with my husband about it. I never get angry because I know the person was giving it me from a place of thoughtfulness.
I still stand by the fact that it is the parents decision to have the child, and it should be the parents responsibility to purchase gifts for the needs of their children not expect them or get frustrated at people for not buying specific registry items. You have to fill in the gaps yourself when you have a child.
My sister recently had an unexpected pregnancy and my mother tried assigning registry gifts. I was offended and thought she behaved in a way that is completely tasteless and tacky. Who is she to instruct me or anyone else how to spend the money I've earned? Or worse, pre-plan my gift giving for me so there is no thought from me? This is never a route I will never go down.
Regardless, good luck OP. I think your email sounded nicely written and I hope you have the best of luck!
@carrieknitscake: I was reading through the list before saying that same thing - request that she makes you a blanket in acrylic! It willbe soft but durable and TOTALLY washable in a way that wool will not.
That is understandable! You make a registry because you need certain things and it would help out for people to get the things you NEED. I think its really frustrating when people don't follow registries, if I wanted something else, I would have put it on the registry!
@nskillet: I don't think wanting things off a registry is anyone "telling you how to spend the money you've earned" nor is it saying "I expect other people to provide for my child".
I think it's saying "IF (because no gifts are EXPECTED) - IF you would like to get me something - these are the things I am in need of, these are the things I am lacking".
Personally, I feel like people sometimes are WASTING the their money by buying things that are not useful or needed - I'd much rather someone save their money and get me absolutely nothing than get me something I can't use.
Your MIL is not going to be the only person giving you gifts, so just accept what she makes graciously and move on! I am sure there are other people who will buy things off your registry. Don't stress yourself out about this. I would be annoyed, though, if she only goes through your husband...because duh, you are the one having the baby, and therefore rather important :)
@Camrie I think you're taking what I said out of context. I made that comment specifically in regards to the way my mother handled my sisters baby shower. Her attempt to assign me a gift was certainly her telling me how to spend my money. How is it not? If she didn't care, she wouldn't have attempted to muscle everyone into something specific. Why should it be her place to tell people what to buy? People should buy/give what they feel is appropriate nothing more and nothing less. I was not trying to imply that ALL registries are people trying to tell others how to spend their money so sorry if I confused anyone there.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this particular topic. What you consider wasteful spending might be a very thoughtful gift to someone else. My point is why put all of your eggs in the registry basket and waste any time feeling spiteful/disappointed about something someone did or didn't give you? I see so many new moms and brides to be obsessive and at times ANGRY that people bought them something besides what they requested. I just think that is silly!
Also, if no gifts are expected, why register and include the little slip or blurb on the invite where the person is registered? You lost me on that one.
To me, any gift, whether I think it is useful or not is an act of kindness from someone close to me. It is an offering of well wishes for my future child, and I chose to appreciate everything regardless if I thought of it for myself. The gift might not be what I wanted but who always gets what they want? Isn't gift giving supposed to be a surprise?
The issue I have with regisitries is the entitlement everyone seems to get with the gifts they've selected for it. It is rarely a guide that acts as convinience for your shower guests. It becomes an "I MUST GET" list and I've never understood that. So you don't get everything on it, big deal? Your spouse and you should be EXPECTING to fill in the gaps, not angry when someone bought something not on the list.
@nskillet: I get what you are saying, but we're off my topic for now. My intital issue was two fold:
1) my MIL refuses to talk to ME about the baby stuff we need/would like and rather talks to my husband about it who, as much as I love him, probably would just as easily tell her to buy "anything" than being specific, which I have learned, works better in regards to family members wanting to gift you something.
2) she wants to make homemade things (that are usually useless or heirloom items) rather than realizing we NEED things to be able to raise this kid. Homemade things are great at Christmas/birthdays but when you're bringing a new kid into this world there are a lot of things that are way more important/necessary to start with.
There was never a feeling of ungreatfulness, it is one of pure frustration over her failing to remember that items are welcomed in all way shapes and forms BUT we need some stuff more than others.
@nskillet: I'm not sure where you're getting that I or the OP said we would be angry and I think you're missing the point.
We were saying that we'd much rather people not waste their money to get something/make something we're going to give to the goodwill or stick in a closet.
And as a gift giver I would want my gift to be used, loved and appreciated. If I can give someone something I know they need/want without it being on their registry - that's fine - but buying or making something impractical is what the OP and I am talking about.
@Miss Sapphire I get your points entirely. Sorry for thread hijacking a little. I guess we just have different opinions on who should be buying what for baby. I follow a school of thought that DH and I are soley responsible for items we NEED for baby. I won't be counting on a registry or shower to get me those things. However, I know that isn't the case for everyone.
As I said previously, GOOD LUCK! I thought the email you sent sounded quite diplomatic and hope she responds well to it
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I love making baby things for new moms! It's one of my favorite occasions to make someone a cute new gift! Honestly, you are sounding incredibly ungrateful to me. Your MIL wants to make her new grandchild some beautiful, handmade, personalized, special gifts. She sounds super excited to give this baby all sorts of "Grandma" stuff--like the stuff my grandma used to make for me: dolls, blankets, quilts, all sorts of wonderful things! And here you are worrying that you won't get enough stuff that you "need." Well, one of the things your baby needs is love, and it sounds like your MIL is trying to put a heck of a lot of that into the things she's making for your baby.
I would be really hurt if I went to all the trouble to make a beautiful new baby blanket for a new mom, and she just threw it away because it was a "useless item." That would really hurt me! No wonder she doesn't like talking directly to you!
It's one thing if someone buys a bunch of fancy, expensive new baby clothes that the baby will probably never wear and will outgrow within weeks. It's another to put a lot of time, effort, and love into a homemade gift that the child will probably cherish forever.
@Oribel013690: I totally agree. I have already had a child and IMO it was my responsibility to provide everything that my baby needed. It is a gift giver's choice of what they want to give to you. Besides, I am sure there will be many more people that will be giving you items from your registry. Why is it such a big deal that one person wants to make something for their grandchild?
Hey ladies!
I just wanted to give you an update on her reply to my email. The majority of it laid out all the horrible morning sickness, etc that she experienced and then went into all the colic that not only my husband had for 3 months (uh, she's a nurse and he had colic for 3 months...me thinks it might have been something else...but moving on) to all the hardships she had raising them as infants. Really not all all uplifting and great stories to tell a pregnant lady. Why do people do that?
She asked yet again (in caps) if we would share with them the gender (answer is still no) and told me that she bought some maternity clothes for me (WHY? Even my mom doesn't buy me clothes!) and a diaper bag (not using a diaper bag. That's why there isn't on on the registry lists. I am buying a new handbag since now I can justify it's price and size). I honestly can't win with this woman.
Never once did she talk about the blanket she wants to make so I have no idea where that idea went to.
Oooh, that's tough! I'm pretty direct, though, so I'd just tell her that I'm not using a diaper bag. Better tell her now, than have her wonder why she never sees you use it...
@MrsNeutrino: and @Oribel013690 I don't think the issue was that she wanted to make something for the baby, I think its that she wants to make many many many things in a gendered color that the OP doesn't want. Getting a handmade item is wonderful! I know that I can count on my grandmother to make beautiful blankets when we start having kids, but if that blanket turned into 6 or 7 different things, then yes I would not appreciate it that much (especially if I had mentioned that we didn't have space/could really only keep 1 or 2).
A gift is always a great thing, but if someone is going to go to the time and expense of making something (and as a knitter I know how much time these things take and I, too, would feel horrible if my gift wasn't appreciated), but as the recipient, I would feel horrible if I knew that we didn't have the space to keep many different things. One blanket is not difficult to store, but if future grandma is planning on making 'lots of things' as the OP mentioned, then it gets difficult. Then you add in the tschotchkes that the OP also mentioned she buys and it gets out of hand.
Yes, future grandma loves this baby and wants to share these special things, but honestly, if your son and dil are telling you not to make 100 things and you go out and do it anyway, then I can't blame them for being frustrated and then giving away a lot of it.
And I disgree that this seems like a matter of someone saying "i only need stuff off the registry" but rather, if you're going to spend hundreds of dollars on things for us/the baby, please make sure you know the people you're buying for. I have no problem with the fact that I will most likely be purchasing the items off my bridal registry myself; I expect to at this point. BUT, if someone shows up to the wedding with some random gift that I can't return, then yea, that kind of sucks. Because they wasted money and time trying to find it and I have no use for it. I don't mean this to sound like I'd be ungrateful, but I would feel terrible that their gift to us is either going to goodwill or tossed in a corner somewhere. I see registries not as a way to tell people what to get us, but if they want to spend their hard-earned money on us, these are the things that we like/the colors we like/some of the appliances we need. I see it as a way for people to know their money is going towards something that we will use for a long time.
I can totally identify with this... At our shower we got 6 homemade blankets- 3 of which came from people my mom knows that we have never met. While I appreciate the thought I'm completely clueless as to what to do with them. Realistically speaking do I let my infant use a blanket her great grandma made her and potentially ruin it or do I just let it sit in the closet? What's the worse of two evils?
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