Post # 1
Got my ring today from Moissaniteco. Love the setting and it is a nice color of stone.
But I am disappointed at
- A dark spot in the center (I hear it’s called fish eye).
- The top of the stone also frequently gives off a glassy reflection much like the cubic zirconia standin we got while waiting for this, my dream ring 🙁
- There is a general lack of fire (or brilliance? I’m still learning terms) when I am in anything other than artificial light.
I’d be happy to fix 1 and 2. What would help me in this case?
Remedies I considered: Anyone have these or a combo of them?
- Amora enhancement:
They are out of these for now 🙁
- Forever brilliant enhancement:
The pictures I saw on other threads seemed very white, less brilliance/fire (which I didn’t like). But now I know pictures can be deceiving.
- Old European Cut (OEC)
I have seen many of these issues discussed on other threads but I have not gathered anything conclusive on which of these things would fix fish eye and glassiness. (some say shallow cuts like mine prevent fisheyes, some say deeper cuts like OEC do, etc)
I am going to contactact customer service ASAP, but I want to know exactly what remedies to propose to get rid of that fish eye and glassy top. Thanks for any advice.
“Fish eye” or dark spot or windowing in center:
Lots of glassiness in more angles than I would prefer:
More windowing/dark spot (this camera makes it look better than in person…):
Almost as much windowing and glassiness as my standin cz.
My moissanite at its best so far:
Post # 3
OECs will have a spot in the center no matter what the stone is. It’s just part of the cut. I’m not sure what you can do to fix it in the RB. I’ve never noticed it in mine.
Post # 4
Have you looked at cathedral settings? They keep the bottom of the stone off your finger which lets in more light, therefore giving you more sparkle.
Post # 5
I don’t know that you can fix the fish eye.
I don’t see glassiness though, in your pics.
Moissanite is not for everyone, I have owned LOTS and must say I prefer it for earrings more so than rings.
Post # 6
@dlzn: I think you need a different stone that has a better cut to fix it.
Just a random link I found on google that might help you: http://www.jewelry-secrets.com/Diamonds/Diamonds-Leak-Light/Diamonds-That-Leak-Light-And-Life.html
Post # 7
I think my diamond does the same thing? I also have a round cut. But it’s only in certain lighting. Honestly, your ring/stone is beautiful and no one’s going to think your ring looks dark.
Post # 8
I’m afraid you got a dud. I have an unenhanced RB and an unenhanced OEC as well as an amora enhanced RB, none have the fisheye as bad as yours. for what it’s worth, my amora-enhanced RB has the “worst” fisheye, but it only goes dark at a very small degree and only if you hold it up really close to your eye. at regular viewing distance all of my moissies have bright centers. the darkness in the center is just due to bad cut, and any type of cut (RB/OEC/cushion/etc) can be good or bad. so just keep trying, return it if you don’t like the cut. (to avoid too many returns I’d get someone to handpick a stone to your specifications. I recommend schubach’s for that sort of stuff)
as for the “glassy” appearance, that’s just light bouncing off the table. RB moissies have flatter tables than RB diamonds, so yeah… that sort of cut bothers me too, hence why I opt for OEC now (smaller table). but for OEC there WILL be a tiny hole reflected from the culet at the bottom, though you can try to find one with a smaller culet.
good luck in your search!
Post # 9
@dlzn: I think you should return that ring back to Moissaniteco. Moissanite is cut by hand and that is why there is a great variation in cut quality. I am not sure whether Moissaniteco hand pick the stones, my guess is that is unlikely considering the volume of rings they churn out. They claim to screeen all their stones for cut and colour but I guess some duds slip through nevertheless. As pp said above I would also highly recommend Schubah (jcent) or Amcor Design (poppyseed) to get you the best stone for your ring.
When asking for a new Moissy, I wouldn’t be concerned with asking for “the whitest” (as the colour is less of a concern with a new whiter rough), I would be asking for ” the best possible cut stone from the new stock cut from the new whiter rough”.
Fish eye can not be fixed with any kind of enhancement as it is inherent in how the stone is cut.
Post # 10
Thank you all for the helpful replies. I certainly feel a lot better with more feedback.
I will definitely return/exchange at Moissaniteco after this feedback. Anyone have experience dealing with Moissaniteco? I am sort of intimidated by their short 30 day return policy. I wonder if I can just ask Moissaniteco to handpick another stone for me? And how will I know it’s actually better (as you can see, pictures can be deceiving).
Thing is, I really love my setting.
@patchy Your stones sound great and exactly what I’m looking for. I don’t mind the pin-sized culet in the OEC, I just don’t want a huge dead spot. Some people on other threads here or on betterthandiamond seem to think that OEC’s deeper cut will by necessity make it more prone to fish eye. It’s good to hear that is not necessarily true because I do like that chunky style! I also suspected OEC has less glassiness because of the smaller table- it’s good to hear that confirmed!
@sparkletiger I think I saw you post your ring/other rings on other threads here, and I found it very helpful! Except now I forgot: Have you gotten moissanite before and did you deal with fish eye? Where did you get yours?
Post # 11
@dlzn: I think the dark spots are just a natural result of certain lighting. My stone does that, but I never thought about it as a bad thing. It just doesn’t bother me. My MCo ring came with a flaw in it. I contacted customer service, shipped it off, and it was back on my hand and fixed in three weeks. Good luck!
Post # 12
I have 4 Moissy rings – 1 with 6.5 FB Moissy (the stone is from MCo), 6.5 mm unenhanced OEC from Amcor designs (poppyseed), 6 mm unenhanced RB (that ring was purchased from another forum member and redesigned) And eternity Moissy bands.
Out of all the stones that I have the FB from MCo is probably the worst in terms of both colour and cut. It doesn’t have an obvious fish eye (I thought it did at one point but it turned out that there was a speck of dirt stuck to the bottom of the stone), but it is just not as nicely cut as the other stones I have. When Hearts and Arrows Moissanite (NOT Amora Gem, as I am not a fan of that at all) comes out, I will probably replace my FB with Hearts and Arrows and put FB into the pendent. Having said that, my FB was purchased a while ago and these days FBs are not enhanced, just whiter stones picked from whiter rough and Moissy did come leaps and bounds in quality just this last year (providing you order from the right place).
I know for a fact that either Schubah or Amcor could order you that setting (as MCo uses stock settings from casting houses, they don’t make their own) and they will take care to pick out a great stone for you for sure. With OEC there is an even greater variation in cut and again , going through Schubah or Amcor would be my choice over MoissaniteCo.
Post # 13
MoissaniteCo can take FOREVER to get back with you about certain things so hopefully this isn’t one of them. The setting has a lot to do with the fish eye thing. Getting a higher setting will let more light through to the base of the stone so you end up with minimal or none at all fish eye.
Post # 14
To illustrate my previous post with pics,
1. 6.5 mm unehanced OEC in yellow gold milgrain bezel from Amcor Designs (poppyseed)
2. 6 mm unenhanced Moissy in Ruby Moissy ring
(ring was purchased from another board member and redesigned)
3. 6.5 FB RB in custom platinum setting (stone from MCo):
Post # 15
Hmmm…that’s pretty strange. I would suggest talking to the people at Schubachs (sp?) because they can hand pick one for you based on your specifications and send you pics of the stone before you commit to buy. I didn’t go that route, but I did have mine hand-picked by someone at C&C due to an error. I got a 6.5 FB OEC with a smaller culet. I didn’t like the look of a large culet.
Post # 16
That stone is terrible!! I’m so sorry. Looking at all the other pretty (gorgeous, even) moissanites posted here, it’s apparent that you were sent a dud. It’s green on top of having that terrible fisheye. Look elsewhere!