Moissanite – What It Is

posted 3 years ago in Rings
  • poll: Do you feel the information is unbiased?
    Yes. : (21 votes)
    29 %
    No. : (34 votes)
    47 %
    For the most part. : (18 votes)
    25 %
  • Post # 4
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: January 2015

    I know you’re trying to help, but these never end well. I would just leave it alone.

    Post # 7
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: July 2013

    Are you asking if we think that the info YOU provided is unbiased, or the info that is spread around elsewhere is unbiased? Also, Sapphire is a solid 9 on the MOHS, & moissanite is harder, which is why they gave it that 9.25 rating. Still, diamond is twice as hard as moissanite, but is easier to chip due to cleavage plains.

    Post # 8
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: February 2013

    @bunnyharriet:  I know you did nothing wrong. It’s just that any topic involving the M word always turns ugly.

    Post # 9
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    Hopefully people won’t brawl, these are facts. And for the love of Pete, if people do not like moissy then stay the heck off the post lol

     

    @bunnyharriet:  Here’s mine 😉

    Post # 10
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    Sugar bee

    @bunnyharriet:  Did you write this yourself?  Seems pretty consistent to me!

    Post # 11
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    Moissanite hit the market in 1998, and was originally marketed as a diamond simulant. The stone is now being marketed as its own stone since it doesn’t share many properties with diamonds.

    Mostly unbias, except for this statement.   It sounds like they want to try to be marketed as it’s own stone because they don’t want the stigma of a diamond simulant, an inexpensive CZ associated with it when it’s many times more expensive than a CZ.  They want to be marketd as their own stone in a way that it’s better than a CZ and that it’ll last forever.  But they certainly also want to be associated with diamonds, as better than diamonds for a fraction of the cost.  It has a fire rating, a color rating, etc,.. those commom properties are compared all the time.  The main reason they were able to get a leg up in the jewel market was to compare themselves to diamonds and try to take some of the diamond market share to begin with.  If diamonds weren’t as popular and expensive as they are, the moissanite probably wouldn’t even exist.

    I wonder what really goes on in their marketing department meetings….

    Post # 12
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2007

    @bunnyharriet:  “SiC is plentiful in outer space, but is very rare on Earth.”

    Maybe there is an earth like planet out there where moissy is the standard stone for erings Tongue Out

     

    It is very subjective what makes a stone valuable to each individual. It all depends on what you value.” 

    I think that is so true, and something people should remember! I like the way you presented the info here 🙂

    Post # 13
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    The only thing I’m unsure of is whetger or not FB and Amora are treatments, or a different crystal that is grown.  I’ve heard it both ways.

    Post # 14
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    Newbee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    How about information from this blog?  The blogger said no one has refuted these information. 

    http://moissanitefacts.blogspot.com/2007/01/factual-moissanite-perspectives.html

    Tuesday, January 2, 2007

    FACTUAL MOISSANITE PERSPECTIVES

    Found this on Yahoo and Investor Village Stock board. This significantly outweighs the Wilsons fraudulent postings for their financial self interests. Nobody has ever refuted this information, but there has been a lot of attention to coverup.

    “MOISSANITE; FACTS, MYTHS AND OUTRIGHT FRAUD””

    How a jewelry nation was duped!”

    TOPICS:

    1. IT’S NOT MOISSANITE AT ALL, IT’S FACETED SYNTHETIC SILICON CARBIDE. ALSO, KNOWN AS SIMULATED MOISSANITE. MOST GEMOLOGISTS AGREE NOW THAT IT IS A STRETCH CALLING SYNTHETIC SILICON CARBIDE EVEN SYNTHETIC MOISSANITE. NATURAL MOISSANITE IS SO RARE; FEW PEOPLE HAVE EVER SEEN ANY, MUCH LESS THE ABILITY TO COPY IN THE LAB. ANOTHER MORE PROPER NAME FOR THIS SILICON CARBIDE IS CARBORUNDUM, NOT MOISSANITE.

    ALL MOISSANITE IS SILICON CARBIDE, BUT NOT ALL SILICON CARBIDE IS MOISSANITE. THE MINERAL WORD “MOISSANITE” CANNOT BE TRADEMARKED AND HAS NEVER BEEN BY ANYONE.

    2. HENRI MOISSAN DID NOT DISCOVER SILICON CARBIDE, NATURAL OR SYNTHETIC. THE DISCOVERY OF SILICON CARBIDE PREDATES HIM BY MANY YEARS. HE WAS CREDITED WITH A SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY IN THE DIABLO CANYON AND THAT IS ALL. HIS DISCOVERIES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SIMULATED MOISSANITE OR THE SILICON CARBIDE PRODUCED BY CREE.

    3. THERE IS NO METEORIC ORIGIN TO TODAY’S SIMULATED MOISSANITE OR FACETED SYNTHETIC LAB CREATED SILICON CARBIDE. NONE WHATSOEVER. SEE #2.

    4. C&C’S PATENTS INDICATE RELATIVE HARDNESS OF 8.5-9.0, NOT 9.25 (DOES NOT EXIST ON ANY SCALE, ESPECIALLY THE MOST COMMON, MOHS). ALSO, NO MENTION OF THE TERM MOISSANITE, DESIRE TO PRODUCE SYNTHETIC OR SIMULATED MOISSANITE OR ANY REFERENCE TO SELL MOISSANITE IN PATENTS. THE PATENTS ONLY PROTECT, FACETING SYTHETIC SILCON CARBIDE (A DIODE BYPRODUCT FROM CREE) INTO THE MOST COMMON DIAMOND SHAPES. THEREFORE, SIMULATED MOISSANITE IS NOT THE SECOND HARDEST SUBSTANCE ON EARTH OR USED IN JEWELRY. THE 9.25 NUMBER TOUTED IS COMPLETELY FICTIONAL, NON-EXISTENT AND FABRICATED BY CHARLES & COLVARD FOR EXCLUSIVE MARKETING PURPOSES. CHECK THE PATENTS OUT FOR YOURSELF AT http://WWW.USPTO.GOV Patent #5,723,391 and 5,762,896

    5. SIMULATED MOISSANITE IS TRULY “GREEN OR YELLOW” TINTED IN NATURAL SUNLIGHT AND STULLER SAYS IT IS RARELY NEAR COLORLESS. YET, CHARLES & COLVARD CONTINUES TO CLAIM NEAR-COLORLESS.

    6. BECAUSE IT IS TINTED C&C IS ATTEMPTING TO MOVE IT AS A JEWEL IN IT’S OWN RIGHT EVEN THOUGH EVERY RETAILER IN THE WORLD SELLS AS A DIAMOND SUBSTITUTE OR SIMULANT TO THE CONSUMER AND IN WEDDING JEWELRY (A SUBSTITUTE FOR DIAMOND). EVEN THE FOUNDER, JEFF HUNTER, ACKNOWLEDGES IT AS A DIAMOND SUBSTITUTE IN THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE AND IN HIS PATENTS;

    IN ARTICLE FROM THE NATIONAL JEWELER FRIDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1999

    7. IT’S NOT A GEMSTONE BUT A JEWEL (C&C CALLS IT A JEWEL TOO, FTC ISSUE), BECAUSE IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PRECIOUS OR EVEN SEMI-PRECIOUS QUALITIES WHATSOEVER. IT COMES FROM VERY COMMON AND ABUNDANT SILICON MANUFACTURED BY CREE IN NORTH CAROLINA IN THEIR “LIGHT EMITTING DIODE” (LED) MANUFACTURING PLANT.

    8. IT DOES CHIP AND BREAK WITH HIGH FREQUENCY BY THE CONSUMER WITH NO SUPPORT FROM THE MANUFACTURER WHEN IT DOES. ONLY THE BIG RETAILER PLACEMENTS GET ANY SUPPORT FOR BREAKAGE. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD DROP IT. SHOPATHOMETV.COM DROPPED THE SELLING OF SIMULATED MOISSANITE JEWELRY.

    9. FACETED SILICON CARBIDE IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE LAB CREATED JEWEL USED IN JEWELRY TODAY. WHY? HIGH OVERHEAD TO PRODUCE AND DISTRIBUTE AND MILLIONS SPENT ON FALSE MARKETING HYPE. FOR THE PRICE PAID, IT IS NOT SUPERIOR TO CUBIC ZIRCONIA.

    10. THE GIA (GEMOLOGICAL INSTITUTE OF AMERICA), THE MOST RESPECTED EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION TODAY CALLS SIMULATED MOISSANITE (FACETED SILICON CARBIDE), A “DIAMOND SIMULANT” (ANOTHER TERM IS FAKE DIAMOND).

    11. THE PRODUCT SOLD AND DISTRUBITED BY CHARLES & COLVARD, IS NOTHING MORE THAN A “DIODE” BY-PRODUCT MANUFACTURED BY CREE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND FACETED TO LOOK LIKE A DIAMOND (SAME SHAPES & SIMILAR CUTS). CREE IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PRODUCERS OF SILICON CARBIDE LIGHT EMITTING DIODES.

    Post # 15
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: June 2013

    @chitown23:  I can’t read it written in all CAPS like that!

    Post # 16
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

    seriously?!

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