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Are they any jobs that are in his field, but maybe not at a university, in your area? It seems maybe your job is more specific than his and he has a better chance getting work without detriment to his career than you do.
Ultimately, you're going to have to decide what is best for your family in the long run if that is the road you are going down.
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, no, there are no jobs in his field in our city. He's a profession of media arts, with a lot of non-university experience in television production, but there just haven't been any jobs here in Indy for him during the search.
I was initially supportive of the job search and I knew it would mean moving away. I just hoped it would mean moving to an area where I could also expand my career.
I think you guys need to have a serious discussion about all this. Its a really tough position.
What helped my SIL was that they agreed that he was going to be the "bread winner" per se. So, everything the did as a couple was to further his career. She obviously still worked, but her career didn't take off like his did.
I think if you think long term, the move is probably a good thing. It sounds like this could be a good long term job for him. Yes, you'll still have to work right now, but maybe over time you can be a SAHM.
I would also keep in mind the cost of living difference - by moving to a small town, you could very easily be a SAHM with only his wages. Also, look in nearby cities - even an hour away. If you can work from home for them, and maybe only go into the office once a week, it might be worth it.
Thanks for the thoughts. I looked into the cost of living differences but unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) Indy is a pretty cheap city, so there really is no difference. His wages aren't enough simply because of school loans and credit card debt that we are paying off. We are in a horrible financial situation as it is, and this job actuallys pays $3000 a year less than the one he has now.
What about just making cut backs? Getting a smaller place when you move? Maybe even filing bankruptcy?
Yikes! A serious talk is a must. Will he be making more money that you make currently? As in is he the primary money maker? If not I don't see the rational to move, even if its his dream job if you can't live off of it then its not a good choice. Also from what you said it doesn't seem like there is opportunity for you if you move but if you stay there is potential that something else could open up for him. I would have a serious serious discussion on this.
I'm a little confused, because it sounds like neither of your current options are tenable. You both have to work to be financially OK, but you are going to move with him to TN?
At one point, my parents lived in different cities for a bit when their situation was somewhat similar. No, it wasn't the greatest thing ever but it paid the bills until one found a job in the city where the other one lived. I think it took a little over a year for this to happen, so it may be an option if you can stomach it.
I'm so sorry you're going through this. Is there anyway for you two to live between his new job and a fairly good size city? Maybe split the commute?
EDIT: Also, I know this is difficult but would it be possible to do a long distance marriage until you can find a job down there?
We've found a house that rents for $575 a month, and have been told we can rent our current house for $800 a month. We pay about $1000 a month for the mortgage and an additional loan that he took out to install a geothermal HVAC system. There's no way we can sell the house quickly enough in this market, and he apparently owes more than we would probably get for it. So we'll be paying about the same in living expenses.
He does make more than I do, by about $10K. We don't have cable, we don't eat out much... I'm really not sure what else we can cut back.
I REALLY don't want to go the bankruptcy option. That's just not how I was raised. But if I'm out of work, we won't have any other option after a few months.
He's convinced I'll be able to find work in the area, or that I should just do freelance translation. Unfortunately, that's very unstable, as there is no way to know how much work I could get, if I could even get any. The schools in the area have actually just dismantled their Spanish programs, and the schools farther out with positions that I have applied to aren't responding.
We've discussed this to death. He wants to go and I am terrified and sick about it. But if we don't go now, we'll end up in the same place (one of us unemployed and/or having to move) next July anyway.
@rplatzer: That's what I was thinking as well.
Depending on what language you specialize in, I would consider being apart for a short period of time so you have time to really figure out what your options are. Private instruction and translation are not the kind of activities that require an office, afterall. Could you see yourself doing freelance work? Working as an adjunct? Has your FI spoken to the new university about helping you transition?
I am sorry you are going through this. Having a career you love in a community is really important for your morale and independence. It sounds like you really need to take the time to "soul search," maybe make a list of pros and cons, and have a heart to heart with DH. I have a feeling that things are going to work out, and you just need some support right now. Maybe those schools will get back to you? At any rate, you need to realistically decide together what is the best option for both of you. Perhaps DH should apply closer to where you all ready live? Is there nothing available for him? Even if you have children, would you be HAPPY staying at home in rural TN? Even if you could afford to? Or would you need a social outlet to utilize the skills you have gained?
Another thought, you said that if you don't decide to move to TN you will be in the same place next year- deciding what to do- maybe DH should continue to look for work in a place that offers something for BOTH of you.
Why would he be in the same place next year? Is this job in Tennessee only one year contract? or are you talking about how you will never be able to find a job there, b/c I think you're wrong--there is a HUGE NEED for Spanish tranlators for hospitals, schools, etc.
I think she is saying that he has a job in Indiana where they live for this next year, and after that they need to find something for him. So, if they take the job in TN it will be for many years, but if they don't, they have to keep looking because his current job is only for 1 more year. I say keep looking, there has to be a place where you both can work and be happy.
@rplatzer - That's what I'm thinking, too.
We've only been married for a month. Separating isn't ideal, and I'm not sure he would even be willing to do it. He and his first wife tried that, and it ultimately led to their divorce. I just don't think he realizes how bad our financial situation is. Or for some reason he's not concerned about it.
If I stay, we would still need to rent our house out, or our living expenses would go from $1000 a month to $1575. Of course, then I would have to find an apartment or something, and for whatever reason studio apartments are not reasonably priced in this city.
And, of course, my employers could decide not to keep me on once he moves... it would make it pretty clear that I wouldn't be around for the long term, so they'd have no reason not to bring in a replacement.
He was given a contact at the new univeristy, who has yet to return either of my phone calls. :(
I applied for a translator/interpreter position at a hospital in Knoxville. No response.
DH truly feels that there is nothing closer to home, or possibly anywhere, that's out there for him right now. This single job offer is the result of a year long search.
As for whether I would be happy... well, I'd like to think that I could be happy sitting in a studio apartment eating ramen noodles everynight for dinner if it meant being with him... but I'm not sure I'm ready to say that. My independence has always been very important to me, and I am afraid that this move will mean giving that up.
@charismaclassic: Two practical thoughts:
- bankruptcy isn't the end of the world, but it will not discharge the student loan debt; that sticks around post bankruptcy.
- if your current house has two bedrooms, you could get a female roommate if you have to stay for a while.
I understand the difficulties of the job market in academia now, and how fortunate it is that your husband received a job offer. But I realize how damaging it would be to your marriage and career if you moved to a place you were unhappy with and did not offer you many prospects.
I am a bit confused about a few details:
1. Is your husband's new job a tenure track position? Or is it a full time lecturer?
2. Has your husband already accepted the job offer? Normally, couples with a two-body problem try to negotiate a spousal position before accepting the offer since you are in your strongest negotiating position before you accept the job offer.
3. To what extent did your husband involve you in his job search and applications?
You may also want to post this on the chronicle's forums (http://chronicle.com/forums/ ) since those forums are primarily for academics, and they have unfortunately seen how common and upseting your situation is, and may have further suggestions.
This is a really tough situation. My husband and I moved last year to a place where he could get a job because it was harder for him to find a job. I think that in your situation, you should have been the one to find a job first since your job is harder to find in some locations but I don't know what you can do about it now since he will be starting soon. Is there anywhere that you can work, even if it means a longer commute?
Thanks, all.
The job is an assistant professor position. The college does not have tenure right now, but they plan to reinstate it within the next year or two, and his position would be eligible.
I have applied for ever job I can find within two hours of the area or so, and even one in Greenville, SC. There just aren't any takers.
When he was applying for jobs, he just applied for every opening he could find that fit his qualifications. We never knew which ones would be viable, and he didn't tell me about all of them.
When he interviewed for the job, the people at the college led him to believe that a multilingual teacher with a Masters in TESOL would find a job in no time. It's a very small college, so I highly doubt there would be a spousal position available.
I don't understand why you are moving for HIS job if you have one in your current city. Your field is tough to replace, so you're just replacing one for the other. If you stay in your city, you have a job but DH doesn't. If you move, DH has a job, and you don't. I don't really see how any situation is ideal, except that staying where you are, you aren't dealing with moving and you have your support system nearby.
Even if he takes the job, you're in the same boat after a year. Possibly with BOTH of you unemployed. How is this a financially sound decision? i think it'd be better if your husband continued to look for a professor job in your current city but take a lower paying job for now. My husband's an engineer working at Target for about 1/4 what he SHOULD be making. So I know how that goes, but it is what it is. SOMEBODY has to be a stable provider, and it sounds like your job is more stable.
You are talking to someone who did a long distance marriage for 6 months, though, because my job was stable and I didn't want to move and it just made financial sense for me to stay here and wait for my husband to get out of the army. a LDR marriage should be temporary.
I think you're just trading one set of problems for another right now...I wouldn't move, honestly. Maybe that's selfish, but ONE of you has a stable, set career. The other is temporary. I know he's desperate, but maybe he needs an "in the meantime" job
I would be very cautious about trusting a promise that a school is planning to reinstate tenure in the next year or two. It's not good news for your husband, but it might be good for you if you don't want to move to TN long term. Even if he was single, your husband should apply for tenure track positions next year just in case the plan to reinstate tenure at his new school is delayed (which is quite possible given the current economic condition) or his position is deemed ineligible for tenure. Hopefully, he will find a position in a more geographically desirable location during the next hiring season.
Thanks for the thought. It's actually a 3-year contract, followed by a 5-year contract, and the possibility of tenure at some point. And he makes more than me, which is part of the motivation.
Asking him to work out of his field... I don't know that he would go for it. A lot of his self-worth is tied into his job, and this search was exhausting for him. I should have put better geographical boundaries on it, but I didn't. I just didn't realize how bad the job market was in some areas, since Spanish is always called a high demand area and there are jobs all over the country for Spanish and ESL... Except, it seems, eastern TN.
Oooo i see. Well, 3 years+5 years isn't bad.
It sounds to me like a lot of your self worth is tied to your job, too. Sometimes you do what you gotta do, though. Just make sure it's a compromise for the two of you, not just making one person happy and the other miserable. If you thought the job search was hard on your husband, you're pretty much putting yourself in the position to go through that, too. It'll be stressful on both of you. Good luck, though! Maybe you can do some volunteering at the hospital so you got the ins when they're ready to hire.
Where do you live now? The cost of living in Tennessee is quite low. So, you can probably afford more than you think.
I guess this is a "for better or worse" scenerio. My feeling is, if you are TTC, chances are very good that you would be at least taking some time off, if not a permanent adjustment of some sort. I am not saying that you could not work and be the mother of a baby at the same time, but I have several close friends who are trying to do that, and they are either seriously struggling with the cost of childcare, or trying to find a way to be with their child more.
I guess what you have to do is sit down, talk it out, and write out all of the possible scenerios. Try to think of it logically when you do this, and not with your heart (or at lesat more logically than emotionally).
Good luck, it is not an easy thing to work out!
Thanks. We're in Indianapolis, which has a comparable cost of living.
I would actually like to postpone TTC for a year. I couldn't wait to start before all of this, but now I'm worried about looking for a job or starting a new job while pregnant. But DH is 41, so he doesn't want to wait any longer and research seems to say we really shouldn't.
We'll have to talk it through more, but as far as he is concerned, the decision is made. He would reverse it to save our marriage oif it came to that, but I don't want to put him in that position. It's running his own department, rebuilding a program, which he's always wanted to be able to do.
FI is tenured in a location where I refuse to live and would be unable to find a job. We agreed that our careers are important so we've been long distance for years. We're getting married while he's on sabbatical living where I live and will both be looking for jobs. If neither of us find something we'll move back to his town, but only until we find other jobs elsewhere. It literally took us four years of discussion, tears, and arguments to work that out. FI's current job is his dream job, but there will be other jobs in the future, so it will be temporary until we can find something that makes us both happy.
Since your DH agreed to the job you're committed. However, have a discussion about whether he will look for jobs in other locations, particularly if you can't find a job. It's worth giving the new location a shot, but don't become a martyr for the sake of his career - it could make you both unhappy.
Honestly, I think you two need to do a long distance marriage. He needs this job and I don't think it's fair to make him stay in Indy--not trying to say you're forcing him (I live in Indiana, work for a university, and know the budget pit falls in this state--currently looking for a new job myself). I think since you have a job, you need to keep it. You should rent out any extra rooms you have in your house and put it on the market in the next few months. Living meagerly will be better than you being unemployed. In the next year, really hit it hard. I think there are positions in Eastern Tennessee, Western North Carolina/South Carolina, that will open up or are available.
I also agree with rachelss, he should continue looking for other positions.
Good luck, I'm sorry that you're going through this.
Thanks. We had a long, tearful and occassionally angry talk about it, and he now sees that I probably need to stay here until I can find a job. He's also going to call the man who will be his new boss and level with him about the situation of my job search. When he was interviewing, he explained what I do and they all assured him I'd have no trouble finding something, so he's hopeful that perhaps they will come up with some other ideas as far as places to look (or something at the college). It's worth a try.
@charismaclassic: Have you considered the entrepreneurial route? By that I mean starting your own translation and ESL education business out of your home. Or, have you looked into applying for grants and working on your own translation project? I understand the strange flux of supply/demand in the ESL field (I was an ESL specialist at my university's writing center), but perhaps you could create your own market by starting a teaching program from your home and building contact from there?
I hope things get better for you soon, and that you and your new husband are able to be together happily regardless of the circumstances. My fingers are crossed for you!
Since others seem to have covered a lot of ground, I figured i'd chime in with what seems to be missing:
1- instead of moving into a studio, could you either find a roommate situation (often cheaper then livng alone) OR move in with family nearby? Family would be best if you could pay no/little rent!
2- Even though you don't think you could get more then $800 to rent your home, aim for $1000! Really sell the Geothermal bits to people! If it has a dishwahser, laundry area with washer n dryer, good sized yard, large garage, large kitchen, etc- sell the high points! How many bedrooms is it? If it has 3+ bedrooms, you could easily rent it to a handful of roommates 4 people in splitting $1000 a month is cheap! Here in Milwaukee 3-4 bedroom apartments can go anywhere from $900-$1500! If you are near a college or university- rent to college students! If your city doesn't have a law against it, you could charge a "high" rent, but simply have a lot of people living in the house!
3- Could you find a online commute job? Something in another city (or country!) where you simply translate things for them online or via e-mail or through video conferencing? I also think you could start your own translating/toutoring buisness in your home in TN AND pick up a full-time job elsewhere. Sure the full-time job wouldn't be in your field, but you'd have a steady income while you build your business base. Also, you'd be surprised where your Spanish skills could get you a job (home supply stores need people who speak spanish! So do most call centers, customer service positions, and many manufacturors.).
I think even though you've "talked this to death" you need to talk about it a little more and I say this as someone who has sacrificed her career on behalf of her husbands. The truth is that based on the available salaries here my DH makes 3-4 times more than I do, so obviously we must live where he can find employ and I do the best that I can.
I hate this. But I love him more. So instead of being in my field where I have a master's degree I will go work as a secretary. It OK, at least its straight day work. And I've yet to have a job that cuddles me at night, or cheers me up when I'm down.
Having said that, we do have parameters that we work from. First of all, taking a pay cut, even a little one, is not something my DH is willing to do. It sounds like you really can't live on one salary -- and we wouldn't be able to either if we took a pay cut. Secondly, we agreed that we are not in the current area long term unless, in 3-5 years, we both really love it and want to stay. Third, we've put off TTC. Babies -- in the words of one friend of mine who has an 8 month old -- "are so expensive they make you cry." It sounds like you already have enough on your plate financially. Maybe a financial counselor could assist you? Or he could do some adjunct work at another college too?
I just wanted to thank you all for your advice.
We talked it overagain, ran the numbers, and decided that as long as our current house for the at least $895 a month a rental management company thinks we can get (which is reasonable for our area), and I can get a job that pays at least minimum wage (or get approved for unemployment, which actually looks more possible after DH's last call to the office), we'll be OK. Not great, but in pretty much the same place we are right now, only with a brighter future for DH since he'll be contracted for the next three years with a likely possiblity of tenure after that.
We also found out that he can teach additional classes at the college and a couple of schools in Knoxville for $1600 a session, which will help quite a bit.
@puppymom2006 - I hear you. I think that's what I'll end up doing, at least for the first year or so. I am hoping that I will be able to find a teaching position somewhere in the area, but like you said - my career has never cuddled me at night, as much as I love it and have invested myself in it. We also talked about putting off TTC, but I'm 30, DH is 41 and my family has a history of problems with fertility (it took my parents 8 years to conceive naturally), so we really don't feel like waiting longer is a luxury of time that we have. At least (because of his job perks) we will know college is paid for.
Hey. I don't know if this will help, but my husband and I just moved for my job. I get to do my dream job this fall. About 3 weeks before we moved we realized he wasn't having any luck finding a job in our new area. We made the tough decision for him to keep his job about 1 1/2 hours away and he lives away from home most of the week, with his parents. It's not the easiest decision we've made since we've only been married about 7 months.
Do you have a friend you could do a roommate situation with? I know it's not ideal, and it's not super easy, but it might be a possible solution.
Thanks again for all the thoughts about this.
For now, we've found someone to rent our house for $950 a month, rented a house there for $800 a month, and I've given notice at my current job. I also planted the idea of continuing to work long distance for them, but they wanted some time to think about that... so I imagine it will be a no.
Still not a single bite on the dozens of applications I've sent out downt there, even now that we have a local address.
At least now I've seen the area. We visited over the weekend. It is really pretty... if only cows and horses wanted to learn Spanish. I'm just such a city girl. I wanted to cry at one point. I LOVE visiting nature... but not living in it.
I'm really not feeling any better about the situation, and it's become a constant source of fighting between us. I just sort of feel resentfully resigned and numb. Yuck.
Thanks for letting me vent, hive.
This stinks. I hope you can learn to love where you will be living, and will find a way to not resent your husband for this. I agree that you should try to open your own business doing translations, and try to find some kind of telecommuting work. Have you tried the high school and middle schools in the area where you are going to be living to see if they need help in their Spanish programs?
@MrsSl82be - It does stink. I'm going to have to try freelancing, it looks like. Contacting all the local schools was the first thing I did... only to learn that they have eradicated ALL of the Spanish programs in the district down to one single teacher at the local high school in order to save $$$. (Sadly, she doesn't seem to be about to retire.) This also makes me a little concerned about the value placed on foreign language learning in the area... yikes.
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My new husband is a professor, and while we were still engaged, he found out he would be losing his job after the current contract due to funding. That was set to run out this month. Because another faculty member decided to retire, he was offered a one-year contract for this school year.
In the meantime, he had been applying for other university jobs all over. After only getting two interviews out of dozens of applications, he was offered a job in at a school in eastern Tennessee. He accepted the job, which means we have to move next month.
It is a great opportunity, really his dream job, but I don't want to go! I work as a translator and private language instructor, and it is very hard to find a good full-time in-office position in the field. Not so hard in a major city, but we would be making what could be a permanent move to rural Tennessee, where there are almost no jobs in my field. I've sent out two dozen applications to schools and other organizations, and haven't heard a work back from any of them. I'm the Director of the school where I work. This is a great job and I have built my career around this. I love what I do.
We cannot afford for him to be out of work (which he would be after this academic year), but we also can't afford for me to be out of work (which I would be for who knows how long). I don't want him to give up on his dreams, but it makes me sick to think that I have to throw away my career and everything I've worked for the last ten years to build to help him further his. Honestly, if the move meant I could stay home with kids (we're also TTC) it would be fine, but we can't afford that.
I don't know what to do. I hate this feeling. I mostly just needed to vent, but if anyone has any thoughts, please share. He said if it would make me miserable, we could cancel the move, but I'm not sure if that would be worse, since then he might blame me for missing out on the opportunity.