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Mrs. for lesbian couple?

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    Derbybride    December 5, 2009   Louisville KY

    Anyone know the correct wording for a lesbian couple? I'm assuming its Mrs Jane Smith and Mrs. Sue Smith since they have changed their last names to be the same. 

    Any thoughts? 

     
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    eeniebeans    October 9, 2010   Baltimore

    I'm not a big fan of formality anyway- so I would just go with Jane and Sue Smith,  and skip the Mrs., Ms. or whatever.

     
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    DobroDree    10-17-09   Tulsa, OK

    Well, my aunt and her partner have not had a commitment ceremony, though they have lived together many years. I worded their inivitation as "Ms. Tess Durbyfield and Ms. Jane Eyre". Has this couple had a commitment ceremony?

     
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    baffled111       Walla Walla WA

    Hmm, I'd go with Ms if you want to do a title. Mrs is an abbreviation of Mister's--as in, possession of the mister. Ms is much better (and really safer all around).

     
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    Derbybride    December 5, 2009   Louisville KY

    They have had a commitment ceremony thats why I thought Mrs....but I hadn't thought of what that actually implies.

    I'd like to have something that acknowledges them as a married couple since that is what they consider themselves to be. 

     

     
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    iswimibikeirun    May 15, 2010   Houston

    Why don't you ask them what the prefer?

     
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    KaiLunKat    9-11-2010   Chicago

    Here is what I found on the etiquette site I have been referencing: http://www.southworth.com/page.php?id=127

    Same gender couples - alphabetically by last name:

    Miss (or Ms.) Melissa Franklyn Miss (or Ms.) Stella Ziegler

    So I guess that is another vote against Mrs.

    Edit: I have to say, I personally like Mrs and Mrs (and I have plenty of Lesbian friends who use that) but like said above I think it is all personal preference.  If you wanted to acknowledge the marriage and stay within the traditional wedding invite stuff than maybe something like Ms. Jane and Josie Doe. 

     

     
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    Habibi      

    How about Ms. Jane and Sue Smith. Ms. does't imply they are married to a man and using the one line shows you know they are married & share a last name. Putting them on two seperate lines looks like they are just roommates.

     
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    2dBride    October 6, 2009   Washington, DC.

    Traditionally "Mrs." was used for a married woman only with the husband's name, and only if the woman had changed her name on marriage.  Thus, if Sally Smith married Bob Jones, she was known as "Mrs. Bob Jones" if she changed her name on marriage, and "Miss Sally Smith" if she did not.  "Mrs. Sally Jones" would indicate that she was divorced.

    Applying this to a lesbian couple would be a total headache.  It would mean that they would be "Miss and Mrs. Jane Smith" (assuming that it was Sue who changed her name).  I have yet to meet a lesbian couple who would go for this version.

    The rule that same-sex couples should be listed alphabetically by last name was developed before there were same-sex marriages.  It is comparable to the rule for unmarried straight couples who live together, or married couples with different last names, who also have their names on separate lines.  However, if a same-sex couple is married and one of them has changed her name, this doesn't seem like an appropriate formula, either.

    Personally, if I did not know how they wanted to be addressed, I would address them as "Mses. Jane and Sue Smith."  Ms. is appropriate for any woman, married or not.  Using the plural form and putting their names on the same line recognizes their relationship.

    Asking them how they want to be addressed is probably the best solution.  While I still cringe at addressing a married woman (straight or lesbian) as "Mrs. Jane Smith" (because I am old enough to remember that such a title is correctly applied only to a divorcee), I think that the way my friends want to be addressed trumps the theoretically correct form.

     

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