Ms. Or Miss?

posted 3 years ago in Etiquette
  • poll: What should I use for our single female friend invites?
    Ms. : (183 votes)
    70 %
    Miss. : (78 votes)
    30 %
  • Post # 3
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: August 2018

    Miss because I was taught that Ms. is for divorced women.

    Post # 4
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: November 2014

    I’ve always been taught that Miss was for girls under 18. 

    Post # 5
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: November 2014

    I usually use Miss for 24 and under and Ms. for 25 and up.

     

    I may just be weird, though.

    Post # 6
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2013

    I used miss for my friends and cousins who are my age (early 20s) and Ms. for older females who were never married or were divorced. 

    Post # 7
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: June 2014

    @hazyleyedbeauty:  Miss is for a single woman.  Ms. is for divorced (most people use this in place of “I’m not sure if they’re married or not”).  Mrs. is married.

     

     

    ETA:  I don’t know if you just wrote it that way in the poll, but when writing Miss, there is no period after it, because it isn’t an abbreviation; only Ms. and Mrs. have them.

     

    Post # 8
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    169 posts
    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @tm21308:  +1 I was taught Miss for unmarried and Ms for divorced women

    Post # 9
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: February 2014

    I didn’t use any M titles on my invitations, so there’s that option too. 

    Post # 10
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2012

    I’d prefer Miss too. Ms. sounds divorced and can be either single or married. 

    Post # 11
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    2018 posts
    Buzzing bee

    Most modern etiquette guides (one example is the 2011 Miss Manners Guide to Excruciatingly Correct Behavior, pg. 57) and style guides (the NYT, etc.) state that Ms. is an honorific that is useful because it does not ask the person addressing the envelope to guess a person’s status or to guess a person’s preferences and that it should be used unless, in the words of the Guardian (UK) style guide, “they have expressed a preference for Miss or Mrs” (quotation from the Guardian taken from Wikipedia.org).  

    Post # 12
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    “Ms.” is what I ALWAYS use unless told otherwise by the person themselves. You shouldn’t assume anyone’s marital status, I feel that is impolite. It is also impolite to assume someone’s age. And what if they are married, but younger than 25, or whatever arbitrary age? Seems silly.

     

    “Ms.” is just the absolutely neutral equivalent of “Mr.” You can use “Ms.” if you’re married, if you’re young, if you’re old. I know many married women who actually insist on being a “Ms.” “Miss” is only for little girls, and is demeaning, IMO.

     

    I’m REALLY surprised that people are saying “Ms” is for divorced women, I have never in my life heard that, and my experience doesn’t seem to match that at all!!!

    Post # 13
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    I always go with Ms. Because a womans age or marital status should not matter. When I hear Miss, I think of young girls, teenage or younger.

    I have NEVER associted Ms. with divorced women. I never even heard of that before.

    Post # 14
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: November 2014

    I guess I’m also basing my opinion on the fact that as an unmarried teacher, I am referred to as Ms. Lastname not Miss Lastname. It seems like there are many different opinions, so I would go with whatever is most accepted in your area.

    Post # 16
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: February 2014

    I used “Miss” for unmarried ladies under 30 and “Ms.” for those who are divorced or unmarried and over 30.

    Not sure if there is a hard and fast rule on that … Maybe someone can enlighten me! I’m sure that wouldn’t be my biggest etiquette faux pas!

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