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    Koolbeans621    January 1, 2017  

    My daughter,who will be 2 in feb, fainted. She had just gotten out of the bath and I mentioned a nap, she threw her normal "I don't want to take a nap" anger fit. I was trying to get her clothing so I didn't pick her right away. So I looked over to see her fall back, staring blankly at the ceiling. I rush over to put my hand on her chest and make sure she is ok, she stares like that for a few more moments before she begins crying again. I end up rocking her to sleep with her favorite blankly in a diaper. While I am planning on calling her Doc in the morning(he isn't around on the weekends) i am not sure if I should call the on-call doc tonight. At first I thought it was a fainting fit but now after thinking about it I am not so sure.

    A little back story, ever since she was an infant she has been a hard crier, meaning she cries so hard she runs out of breath. This usually happens when she is mad, like when she can't have something or any time she has to sleep.I am usually holding her when she is doing this, so maybe that is way this haven't happen before....Has this happened to anyone else??? I am kind of freaking out.

     
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    Wonderstruck    September 18, 2011   Detroit, MI

    Your one year old is fainting and you're asking for advice on Weddingbee?! Call the doctor!!!!

    EDIT: I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, I don't mean it that way, I'm sure you're panicked, but I really really think you need to call the doctor.

     
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    elliestan    October 15, 2011   OK | TX

    @Koolbeans621: call the on-call doctor. i hope everything's okay!

     
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    MrsMeNow    September 18, 2010   Wisconsin

    My younger sister use to do that when she was mad. They figured out she was really holding her breath and made herself pass out. I think that is pretty common in toddlers. I would still call the on-call doc just to be sure and keep and extra close eye on her tomight.

     
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    NDBee    March 10, 2012  

    I would call the on-call doc as well. It could be fainting, but it could have been a seizure (not all of them cause shaking). I'd definitely go in just to be reassured. 

     
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    gogogiraffes    June 2, 2012   Richmond, Virginia

    How hot was the bath? Could be the blood rush from the bath being hot. But def call on call dr.

     
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    leafgum    June 17, 2012   Visalia, CA

    Hmm... could be seizures? I used to have them as a baby, and I'd just sort of faint/fall asleep suddenly.

     
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    A doctor is where you need to go.  Something like this can be very serious.

    Best of luck to you and your little girl.

     
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    Koolbeans621    January 1, 2017  

    courtney1188 I was hoping to see if anyone else had a small child who does this, mainly because i kind of knew the on call would just tell me to call her doc on Monday.

    MrsMeNow TY for your comment its nice to know she isn't the only kid who has done this.

    gogogiraffes Not very... I don't do really hot baths just because they are really little.

    leafgum and NDBee Thats what I was kind of afraid off...I know that sometimes they can just been staring off into space.

    So I went ahead and called her on-call Dr and got told generally what I thought I would be told which was it is not out of the range of normal for young children to have fainting spells during tantrums and to call back if it happened again.

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    @Wonderstruck: Thank you. Too many people come to weddingbee for medical advice when they should be talking to a doctor.

     
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    jilian    April 28, 2007   Blacksburg, VA

    I understand the need to want to talk with other moms for support - knowing you aren't looking for answers here - those come from the doc :)

    My cousin also held her breath when she was upset/not getting what she wanted. I've heard of many kids who do this. So I'm hoping that's all it was :) Good luck with the doc tomorrow - hope you get some answers and it's not something more serious. I know it's scary!

     
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    Lindsay12.31.2010    December 31, 2010   Missouri

    @Koolbeans621: When my brother was very little, he used to throw fits and hold his breath.  My mom took him to the doctor, and he said it was fairly common, and basically just to let him do it.  Once he did it and it terrified me, so I called 911.  LOL.  Embarrassing! :-)

     
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    Koolbeans621    January 1, 2017  

    maureen9004 As I stated before I was looking for other moms who had experienced the same kind of issues with their children. Or did you not read my follow up?

    I am sorry but I don't really have other moms or family IRL that I can relate this kind of stuff to, so I was just looking for people who had dealt with this sort of thing, since it kind of freak me out and because of past experience I knew her on call Dr wouldn't really give me much info, especially since the fit had pasted when I call.

     
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    harmonyeee    May 8, 2009  

    @Koolbeans621: i hope you and your LO are feeling better today :) my initial reaction was similar to PP -- go call your doctor!!! -- but i totally understand your desire to find out whether other moms have experienced the same things with their kids. hope everything turned out ok. as a new mom, it can be hard to tease out what's totally common and what's cause for concern, especially if you're already worried about every little thing as it is (like me :P)

    BUT i would also say...if all your pediatrician's on call doctor ever says is to call back during normal business hours...i would find a new pediatrician! they should provide comforting words and detailed action steps, ESPECIALLY after hours. if calling them during an emergency feels pointless, that's probably a good sign that they aren't providing you and your family with the care you need. just my opinion...

     
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    bells    June 26, 2011  

    I think she just worked herself up so much and the combination of that plus the change of temperture just getting out of the bath might have caused this. Did she definitely faint? Or is it possible she threw herself down in a fit and stunned herself when she fell?

     
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    MrsSl82be    October 24, 2009  

    @NDBee: agreed. my nephew did this, and my SIL took him to the doc and found out that he was having small seizures. He is now being medicated for them

     
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    sorrycharlie    July 2011  

    I'm not sure about the area where you are living, but where I am in southern new england, there are urgent cares (walk-in clinics) everywhere.

    If I called the doctor and they couldn't see me (if I were that concerned) I'd go to an urgent care and be seen there.

    If you feel that she's doing okay and can wait, then that's that - but if you wanted her to be seen sooner, an urgent care would suffice I'd think. They're pretty good there. Hope that helps! :)

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    @Koolbeans621: I did not. However, I would not have reacted negatively to your post had you called the doctor first to confirm the wait until Monday, and then asked on a forum to connect with other mothers. Obviously, it's your child and you're entitled to do as you please.

     
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    @Koolbeans621: I agree with @maureen9004: that too many members come to the hive for medical advice, but I think I have some insight as to why people do it. Healthcare is prohibitively expensive in the USA.

    Do you have access to a nurseline through your insurance provider? When you call them, they do an assessment of the situation over the phone and you can decide whether you follow their recommendation or not. They also give great home treatment info when appropriate.

    If you don't have access to a nurseline, there are triage systems online.

    www.healthlinkbc.ca   is just one example

    You can enter your search term  e.g. faint, in the LEARN box

    Here is the info on that topic:  http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/kb/content/special/tb1772.html

    or Check your symptoms in this section

    http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/kb/sx.html

    for a faint, you would click on the head, then a series of topics come up- pick the one most appropriate, in this case Dizziness, Light headedness etc

     it will then walk you through a series of questions till you get to a recommendation.

     
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    gogogiraffes    June 2, 2012   Richmond, Virginia

    Just checking up on little one. I hope she's doing better.

    If it was a seizure, when she came back to, she'd be disoriented, tired and confused. I know this because my mom, dad and niece all have seizures.

     
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    NDBee    March 10, 2012  

    @Koolbeans621: Glad that things turned out OK. However, I agree with the PPs that suggested finding a different Ped. A 'call me on Monday' is not really the best advice, especially if there could be alternate, more serious explanations for what is going on. Good to hear that you're both doing ok!

    @MrsSl82be: Same with my aunt (she's mentally handicapped, so she can't communicate very well all of the time). She just freezes and stares off for a while and isn't responsive right away. She starts to cry or holler as she comes out of it. :-(

     
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    Koolbeans621    January 1, 2017  

    harmonyeee & NDBee Her regular Dr. is fine, it's just the on call for her regular Dr. that tends to always assume I am over reacting.

    Update:As a general statement I just if I felt that there was anything else I could have done about the situation beside research and wait until monday or if I felt my child was in any danger I would have been at the ER. I knew because of many factors such as our current location and the attitude of the on call associated with her Dr. that I would be told to "wait it out".

    When I posted the original post my LO was peacefully sleeping and completely fine at the moment. I was just really wanted to know if this was common in LOs her age, because like I said prior I don't know any local mom and don't have family I can call. I was NOT seeking medical advice in any form. Granted I do know the internet is fill with people who use it for there sole source of information, I am not one of those people.

    Right, now she is fine, but then again since I'm kind of AP with her she rarely has freak outs so I am basically gonna have to wait and see. She does have a Dr. Appt so hopefully her Pedi will ordered some test or do something to figure out what happen.

    I wanna think everyone who was helpful, I am really grateful for your input.

     
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    jholler25    May 29, 2011   Fort Lauderdale, FL

    @Koolbeans621:  Glad she is okay now:)  I'm sure that was very scary, and that if you would have thought you should have brought her to the ER, you would have done so.  Sometimes we look for support on here when we're not sure about something, and it sucks when it's something as scary as what you experienced and then you get tsk! tsk! and questioned about your judgement.  My little sister (25 now) had a head injury when she was small from falling off a ladder to go on the slide at a pool.  Her foot slipped on the top step and she fell all the way to the cement and cracked her skull.  She was 4.  She had a concussion then but no other damage, thank God.  She was fine her whole life until about a year ago when she started randomly seizing.  At first they thought she was fainting, and they "monitored" her.  CAT scans were clear....Eventually she graduated to actually seizing, and it was only then that they were able to determine abnormal brainwaves through later CAT scans with a neurologist, and he diagnosed it as Seizure Disorder as a result of her early childhood head injury.  Apparently it can cause problems that many years later.  My point is, my sister ended up being diagnosed with Seizure Disorder, and it still took months of "monitoring" and testing to figure that out.  I'm sure your little girl is fine, but I think you did the right thing, as when it comes to things like that,  if it's not an acute situation (like she didn't "come to" or she hadn't fallen or hurt herself earlier in the day) then they would just tell you to do as they did, to watch her.  I read your post last night but I didn't want to post and freak you out, but now that she's clearly fine, I just wanted to give you a little support and say that the docs would have told you to do exactly what you're doing:)  Good luck and I hope it was just a really bad crying fit!

    ETA:  My sister is fine too!  Just seizure meds - no biggie:)

     

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