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    EAQ219    May 22, 2010   Bethesda, MD

    Backstory: FI and I are not religious people. Catholicism was pretty much forced on me growing up. I didn't want anything to do with it then and I don't want anything to do with it now. FI didn't grow up in a religous household and is apathetic toward religion in general. For these reasons, we've decided not to get married in a church or have any kind of religous wedding ceremony. For our officiant, we found a guy online, interviewed him, and booked him to perform our ceremony. This is all perfectly fine with our families.

    Over the weekend we were at a friend's house for a dinner party. The host's mother was there and knows FI from when he and her son went to high school together. I don't know her well and she is not invited to the wedding. She was asking about the wedding and the topic of "where" we're getting married and "who" is marrying us came up. I told her about our non-church, non-religious officiant wedding. She looked at me like I had 3 heads.

    "Well," she said, "people certainly do things differently these days, don't they?"

    "I guess..." I replied.

    Now, I'm used to people raising an eyebrow when I tell them about our decision, but I was not prepared for what came next.

    "Well, do you believe in God?" she asked.

    Excuse me, but I don't think that is ANY of her or anyone else's business. I briefly explained my experience growing up and that I have personal reasons for why I feel the way I do. I may have said something about how it's a private thing for me and something I don't really want to talk about (certainly not with her, at least.)

    I'm not entirely sure why some one would think that is an appropriate question to ask a person they just met. I know I should brush it off since she's not a part of my life, but I need a strong answer the next time this happens (because I have a feeling it will.) Thanks for listening! And sorry this got so long, eeks!

     
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    Br1tSh1n1ngStar    10/17/09   New Jersey

    I think she was probably just curious about why you had such strong beliefs against church and God. I wouldn't see it as a personal attack. She doesn't know your background and it's not like she randomly asked you this question. She probably figured you were open to talking about it since you were answering all her other questions.

    Sorry but I don't think she came from a place of attack. I think you should probably just not get into these conversations if you will be offended by the questions people will ask.

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    Ugh, I loathe when people bring up religion or politics in social situations.  It's so innapropriate and makes me wonder what planet these people landed from.

    I usually answer, "Oh, sorry, but I prefer not to discuss religion or politics socially" or something along those lines.  I actually am a Catholic and believe in God but it doesn't matter because it's no one's freakin' business ;o) 

     
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    stephinPA    October 29, 2010   Reading, PA

    Yikes, she was out of line.  That's like asking someone how much money they make a year.  Completely inappropriate. She's an idiot and don't let her insensitivity bring you down.  Stay true to you and it sounds like you are.

    My FI and I aren't getting married in a church either.  I grew up Catholic, FI not Catholic but went to Catholic grade school and as an adult, I don't go to church a lot for reasons that are personal, just as yours.

    Nowadays, a lot of people don't get married in a church. 

     
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    cardigan    January 7, 2011   Austin, TX

    That was totally inappropriate, and I don't think it's strange at all for you to not get married in a church. FI and I are religious, and we're not getting married in a church simply because we don't have a church home in Austin and we didn't really want to get married in a church just for the sake of getting married in a church.

    I can't believe how some people think it's okay to say stuff like that!!!

     
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    EAQ219    May 22, 2010   Bethesda, MD

    Br1t: I'm not sure how to "not get into these conversations" when I was just answering a question about my wedding. She asked where we were getting married, I explained that we're having the ceremony and reception in the same place with a guy we found online. I don't see that as getting into a talk about religion, I see that as answering a question about my wedding. *She* brought God into the mix. Nonetheless, thanks for your repsonse Smile

     
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    Br1tSh1n1ngStar    10/17/09   New Jersey

    That's true, maybe just use hotchildinthecity's response about preferring not to discuss. I'm just saying try not to let it hurt you. She probably didn't mean anything by it and if she did, she's the one with major problems.

     
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    beffielou       NC- Triad Area

    Yuck... how awkward.  I might say, "My beliefs are quite personal to me.  I'm sure you understand."  It never fails to amaze me what topics people think are fair game in small talk. 

     
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    pmerr    August 14, 2010   Rochester, NY

    It's not something she should have asked you, especially not really knowing you at all. I'm also one for not talking about politics & religion much, even though I am a Christian, just because some people like to go too far. I do know people, especially our officiant, who would ask that, no matter if he knew you or not. He's not being rude, that's just him, because if he could, he would turn everyone into a Christian. She could be like that. I would just mention that you would prefer not to discuss it.

     
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    EAQ219    May 22, 2010   Bethesda, MD

    Thanks, girls. I'm not a "God hater" or a "religion hater" or a "religious person hater." Believe what you believe, if that means God, Allah, Buddah, Jesus, no Jesus, Zeus, L. Ron Hubbard, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Preach on, sista friend! I just don't enjoy being put on the spot when it comes to religion. If it were a private conversation over coffee, I would have no problem talking about it. But at a party over cocktails? It's just not the time or the place.

     
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    msbuttons    May 30, 2010   Palm Harbor, FL

    Hmmm really awkward situation! And, its funny to think about NOT getting married in a church as "different," since I feel like that is turning into something very normal nowadays! We aren't getting married in a church either, since it was much easier to have everything in one location.

    I am a Christian, but I guess it wouldn't come straight into my mind to outright ask someone if they believe in God when I barely know them. Even though my answer would have been "yes" if I were in your shoes, I still would have felt extremely awkward. I don't know...I just feel like it is always a touchy subject to bring up in mixed company.

     
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    msbuttons    May 30, 2010   Palm Harbor, FL

    Flying Spaghetti Monster...haha! ;)

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Wow talk about a personal question

    Well, I had somebody at work find out I have a life science degree, then ask me if I believe in Evolutionism or Creationism during a group meeting. How awkward.

    People just know when to keep their mouths shut! You could alwyas say something like, "I don't think that has anything to do with where I want to get married" cuz...um...it doesn't!

    Then again, I've ran into quite a few people that thought getting married outside a church was a big spectacle, inappropriate, and meant lots of bad things, like your marriage wasn't real or some crap...people are crazy, EAQ!

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Yeah, that is totally not her business, and she was out of line AND rude. I'd try to come up with a canned answer for the future in case something like that comes up again. Just "we don't have a home church" if you're feeling generous, or "maybe this isn't the time to discuss" if you're not (or if they push it).

     
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    msmonicka    June 19, 2010   Milwaukee, Wisconsin

    I think it was rude...plain and simple. Thats half the problem wrong with people in this world...they dont know how to leave ppl alone and mind their own business. I would hae taken offense...maybe not to the where and who questions but def to the do you believe in God question. I mean how rude!

     
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    mhirni    September 12, 2009   Oakland, CA

    I like the idea of letting people like this lady know that religion is a personal thing and you prefer not to discuss it in social situations.  But I also think it is okay to simply answer "no" without feeling like you need to explain yourself.  This may not be appropriate with an acquaintance that you don't know well but may very well see socially on occassion, but not being religious or not believing in God is your business and no one else's.

     
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    gabrielleelise1981    August 28, 2010   Portland, Maine

    Totally inappropriate, I really dislike when people ask questions like that – about any hot-button topic… questions that infer, “if you believe X, then you must do A,B,C” like there is only one right answer per side…I think questions like that are a set up for an argument, or to be pushy with a particular set of beliefs. It was rude of her to ask you that.

    Neither FH or I are religious, and come from non-religious families. We’re getting married outside by a friend of ours, who is a lawyer. There will be no mention of God, the Bible, or religion in the ceremony. To the question of why not get married in a church, I usually just answer “it’s a personal decision we’ve made”. I have other explanations which I think are more personal and honest, however, for the majority, this suffices are as polite “none of your business!”

    Marriage is a civil institution, as well as (for some) a religious institution, and there’s nothing wrong with having a non-religious ceremony, or a religious ceremony outside of a church, if that’s what you and your fiancé would like.

     
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    Miss Bravo    October 31, 2009   LA

    You could have said, "Do you believe in privacy?" :) HEH.

     
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    EAQ219    May 22, 2010   Bethesda, MD

    @Miss Bravo: YESSS!!! Hahaha that's the best thing I could have said. Oh, definitely keeping THAT one in the brain-rolodex :)

     
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    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    Ugh. That is a totally inappropriate question to ask someone you dont know. I agree that it was very rude of her. I probably would have been very short with her.

    I'm not religious either. I think it's funny that people feel the need to "convert" others. It's pretty annoying.

     
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    eeniebeans    October 9, 2010   Baltimore

    Its just rude.

     
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    mrbee    March 5, 2005   New York City, New York

    I wonder if part of it is generational?  She mentioned that things have changed, and they definitely have!

    My parent's friends often say things that make me wince, but I figure that a lot of what they say is based on how things used to work... as opposed to how things tend to work now.

    I think back in the day, it was more standard to have religious ceremonies - that's definitely much less the case now, but it sounds your friend's mom is only just now getting that memo...

     
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    realeastcoaster    July 11, 2009   Canada

    Yeah, it was a rude question to ask, even if she didn't mean to be rude. Even thinking of it from a generational perspective, it's always been commonly known that "politics and religion" are hot topics best left alone in social situations.

    I like Missbravo's response best, hehehe

     
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    Valhalla    June 26, 2010   Vancouver, British Columbia

    Ugh, how rude. I dislike discussing religion with others in general. Same as you - grew up Catholic, no longer go to church, having a non-religious ceremony. FI's parents are Buddhist and he is agnostic. My aunt was really pushy about the priest that was going to marry us and what church we were getting married in - until I finally just snapped and said "oh, we aren't having a religious ceremony. It will be outside and performed by a Justice of the Peace. It's what's best for all involved". I totally understand your frustration! I like the suggestion about just letting people know you don't want to discuss religion or politics - it's way too touchy!

     
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    cheerful    September 2009 - eloped  

    I'd be peeved. 

    p.s. Having a civil marriage doesn't mean anyone is "against" god/God or the/a church. 

     

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