Post # 1
Back in August 2008 I purchased my gown for our June 6, 2009 wedding. At the time, the owner of the boutique told me that it was a San Patrick, style# 1001. After searching high and low for the dress online I was unable to locate it. I went back to the boutique for my second fitting and asked again. This time I double-checked the tag and it said "10001" so I looked again when I got home. Nothing.
I am wondering if this is a 2007 gown and if that’s why I have been unable to find it anywhere online. Also wondering if it’s possible they sold me a gown under false pretenses that it was San Patrick when in fact it was not. None of those things really matter to me because I am IN LOVE with the dress, I just want to know exactly what it is! Could someone please help me out? I’m including photos below (feel free to admire the back cleavage…it was a few sizes too small).
Post # 3
Sorry, I don’t know if I can help you with the designer of your gown, but I do have to say that you look gorgeous in your gown. It’s definitely not acceptable that you are unable to know the facts about your wedding dress. The boutique should be able to provide you with that information and if they are not willing to cooperate, they should be reported to the Better Business Bureau. I’m sure the hive will be able to help you more and provide you with advice 🙂
Post # 4
I looked at some of the San Patrick gown galleries, and it looks like they are a company that uses names (like Palermo) rather than numbers to identify dresses. It sounds like your 10001 number might be the color (white or ivory) as it seems too simple to be a style number anyway. I would call the boutique and ask for the dress name. Maybe your salesgirl was confused and told you the color number instead of the style name? Anyway, one way to tell for sure if it’s a San Patrick gown is to look closely at the hanger loops sewn into the dress. These are usually printed with the designer’s name.
Post # 5
It looks a LOT like this one – a San Patrick named Renania from the 2007 line.
Post # 6
I did a quick search of previously owned wedding gowns, thinking maybe it would show up there? I found this:
So, I’m thinking your gown should have the same tag on it? Your dress does look like a San Patrick/Pronovias…
Post # 7
It is beautiful! I would just call the bridal shop and say that you are looking for the dress online using these parameters and not finding anything…are they sure that is the right brand number?
Post # 8
@snmcdowell I think that may be it! The only difference I see is that thing going on at the top. There’s nothing of that sort on mine. I’ll look the next time I am up there to see if there are any indicators on the gown itself as to what style it is.
I have asked the owner what the style is a number of times and checked the tag. That’s all the info I was able to get from her. I don’t think that they keep the style name in their system. Pretty poor business really, and they often leave the phone off the hook for hours at a time. It’s wonderful, really 🙂
Thank you all so much for the help! I’m pretty sure it is a San Patrick gown, I just really wanted to know what the style was to see if I could find it online anywhere. I appreciate your assistance 🙂
Post # 9
Hmmm don’t know. But what a gorgeous dress!!! You look fantastic!
Post # 10
After reviewing the 2007 collection, I have come to the conclusion that my gown has the top of the Reina:
And the bottom (like pointed out above) is the Renania:
Why this would be the case, I cannot even begin to guess. Unless it’s some style that’s older than 2007 and I haven’t located it.
Post # 11
I am curious as to what kind of tag is actually in your gown. From what you describe there is no information but this 10001 number. If you look at this link you will see that the Federal Trade Commission has a webpage devoted entirely to the tagging of wedding gowns. If the place you purchased this is in non-compliance, you should report them to the BB and the FTC.
Wedding gown labels must contain four pieces of information:
- The identity of any one business in the distribution channel, including:
- the manufacturer;
- the manufacturer’s Registered Identification Number (RN), which is issued to companies in the U.S. and registered by the FTC;
- the retail store’s name or RN; or,
- the RN or business name of any other company in the U.S. directly involved in the distribution of the gown.
The label showing the name or RN may be sewn-in or attached as a hang-tag. Either way, it must be conspicuously placed.
- The garment’s fiber content. The generic fiber names and percentages by weight of each fiber used must be listed in descending order of predominance. The label may be sewn-in or attached as a hang-tag and must be conspicuously placed. It may appear with other information or it may be a separate label. To insure proper care of the garment, it may be important — although not required — to have the fiber content on a label that is permanently attached.
- The country of origin.
- Imported wedding gowns must identify the country where they were processed or manufactured.
- Gowns made entirely in the U.S. of materials also made in the U.S. must be labeled "Made in U.S.A." or an equivalent phrase.
- Gowns made in the U.S. of imported materials must be labeled to show the processing or manufacturing that takes place in the U.S., as well as the imported component.
- Gowns manufactured partly in the U.S. and partly abroad must identify both aspects.
- If a gown is imported, the country-of-origin label must be sewn in to comply with U.S. Customs Service requirements. If a gown is made in the U.S. — of either imported or domestic fabric — the country of origin information can be sewn in or placed on a hang-tag. In any case, the country-of-origin disclosure must be placed as close as possible to the center back of the neck.
- Care instructions. The care label must identify:
- At least one safe cleaning method — either washing or drycleaning — and any necessary warnings about the cleaning method.
- Example: If the care instruction is to dryclean, the label must specify one type of solvent that may be used, unless all commercially available types of solvents can be used safely on the gown.
- Example: If the gown is labeled for washing, the label must say whether any step of the normal washing process — washing, bleaching, drying, or ironing — could harm the garment or other items cleaned with it.
The care label must be sewn in. Imported garments should have care labels when they are sent to the U.S., or labels should be attached by the importer.
Under the Textile Act, it is illegal to remove a label containing manufacturer, fiber content or country-of-origin information without substituting another label with the required information. For example, a retailer who wants to remove a label identifying the manufacturer, must substitute it with a label that lists the shop’s own name or RN, or the name or RN of someone else in the gown distribution chain. In addition, the substituted label must contain all the information that is required on the original label. All substitute labels must be properly attached to the gown — either sewn in or on a conspicuously placed hang-tag. Finally, a retailer must not remove the sewn-in care instructions."
If your gown is an older style, then this would apply to your retailer: "In addition, any business that substitutes a label on a textile product — such as a wedding gown retailer — also must keep records for three years that show what information on the label was removed and the name of the party from whom the product was received."
Basically your gown should have some type of label and your retailer should have some sort of record of this.
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Post # 13
@MisWisabus: Your gown was likely custom made for another bride. For whatever reason, she did not end up purchasing the dress. (Serendipitous for you!) So the store was stuck with a custom gown they cannot name (because it is a mix of two styles). The dress I first tried on was a Pronovias custom gown, and it didn’t have a name either! 1001 is just the color of the dress, so they can match the veil to it. I wouldn’t worry about it, your dress is truly beautiful!!
Post # 14
That would be so frustrating to not be able to find additional information on your dress!
I have to say that you look incredibly stunning. You and that dress belong together!!
Post # 15
i know some boutiques do this so you dont make your dress somewhere else. but you said you already bought it right? so maybe this owner just doesnt know what shes doing! how annoying