How's everyone doing with the name change thing?
I said that I was going to do it, but I find it hard for me to start using his name. I have had a career for fifteen years or so. Now professionally I have to be known as his name? I thought I could be okay with it, but it's hard.
I want unity with my husband. I liked the idea of changing my name because it shows solidarity and creates our family. I want the same name as my children (one day when we get around to that).
But, I feel like it's still not fair that the woman changes her name.
It's also a weird thing that whenever I say I am married, everyone asks what my husband does. And not in a just curious making conversation sort of a way. Even in our evolved society with soooo much more equality than our mothers could have dreamed of, being married does up our status. My husband is in finance, so I guess I give a good answer, but I don't like that I raise in "status" based on his career. Was I not good enough before I gave that answer? (I have three college degrees and I teach exercise...it could sound slacker but it's not that bad heheh)
So I could ask my husband to take my name too, but he wouldn't do it. He's conservative. I'm not into the hyphen thing. I don't want to hyphen my kids names. I just have to suck up and deal with it.
I keep telling myself that the woman changing her name is arbitrary, but it isn't.
I know that I could just not do it--I might not now. I said on my marriage license that I was changing it--I don't know how that would affect me later.
My super conservative/sexist parents keep sending me things that say Lisa (his last name) and I cringe.
Thoughts anyone? How are y'all doing it?
Oh yeah. And I am keeping Ms. No Mrs. for me. Ms. I will always be.
My fiance' and I have been together almost 6 years, so I've been using his name on things for quite awhile! My email has his last name, and some of our friends use his last name when addressing me.
You don't HAVE to do it if you don't want to! I know for legal purposes, it's almost easier to just keep your maiden name (bank stuff, mail, etc.).
No one but you has to live with this change, so do what makes you happy!
I always thought that I would looking forward to taking my soon to be husband's last name. Not anymore. It's one thing to kind of imagine that in the future and write my name with a boy's last name with it during class in high school, but it has become a whole different thing as an adult.
My FI expects me to change my last name. I plan to take his last name socially, but I'm not sure if I am ever actually going to legally change my last name (which he is unaware of). It's just weird to me.
Seeing as you have been working for 15 years, I totally empathize with your situation as well. It's just weird. I think it would be different if I was 21 and just out of college getting married, but I'm not.
I'm having very similar emotions. I have been married almost 9 months and still haven't changed my name, though I said I would (with keeping mine as a 2nd last name)...I still dread it, though, and I wish I could swallow a pill that made me feel differently. I feel a little better in knowing my kids will also have my maiden name as their 2nd middle name. If I could convince my hubby to do the same, I think I'd get over the rest, but right now I feel like "Why should I have to miss work to change my name, and he doesn't have to do anything?" I've even told him he should have to do the paperwork for me, LOL.
On the flip side, my very liberal sister says "either way, it's a man's name" I still think of this pretty often and think it is hilarious! It is funny, that we are so attached to our dad's name but not our mom's name usually.... ;)
I like your sister cannotwait. That's true.
My husband suggested that I take my grandmother's name as my middle name because she was so influential in my life and my upbringing. But then I was like, well that was her husband's name. What do I take her maiden name? Mulle was her married name. It works as a middle name. You say it like: Moo (like a cow) Lay.
But Garafolo doesn't work as easily.
She's so conservative, she wouldn't even want me to do that. It would actually offend her to be honest.
I think proessionally I am going to be Lisa (My maiden name) (His name). I guess. But I may not legally change it either...AAAHAHAHAHHAh
That DMV trip will be like the green mile if I'm not careful.
Keep the thoughts coming bees!
I'm not married yet, but we did just get our marriage license and in CA, you pretty much have to decide when you fill out the license. I never wanted to take a guy's name but did consider making my last name a middle name and his name my last name (for future children). But in the end, decided to stick with my name. When we have kids, they're going to have my last name as their middle name. Granted, they'll probably still only go by his last name, but people will just have to deal with the fact that their mother has a different name! Oh, and my fiance actually doesn't care at all - he's fine with me keeping my name.
I don't really like my last name and my husband's last name is so nice and normal and never requires spelling. Everyone always mispronounces my last name and when it is mispronounced it's a word that is kind of embarrassing...the sort that an 8 year old would love to make fun of. Also, his last name begins with the same letter as my name. I was totally expecting to change my name because of all this. But when it came down to it, I couldn't do it. It suddenly seemed so strange to change my name...this is my name that I've used for over 30 years! Also, it felt like I would be betraying some kind of feminist ...something.
I kept my name. And, man, was it ever the right decision for me! I feel so good about it for some reason...really proud of myself. Don't get me wrong...I do not care what anyone else does with their name (it's their name to do what they want with), it was just so right for me.
I live in a very liberal area so people never give me any crap for it. They don't even blink an eye, in fact.
I also felt better after talking to a co-worker who didn't change her name. She's in her 50's now and has twin daughters that are 10. She said there is no issue with having a different name than them. She has never had a problem. I think it's becoming more and more common, so it's starting to be built into the system.
Anyway, my advice to you is to imagine how you will feel after you get married. Think of how you will feel saying that you changed your name vs. how you would feel saying that you didn't. For me, family solidarity has nothing to do with a name, but for you, it may be more important.
Good luck with this tough decision!
The name thing has made me feel very conflicted - it's seriously been one of the toughest decisions for me with wedding planning.
What bothered me was the things you mentioned, but I felt mostly like marriage changes BOTH of us. Why shouldn't BOTH of ourn ames change?
So they are :) Luckily my FI is super liberal and was all gung-ho for our plan: my maiden as our middle, his last as our last. I get it both ways, and in MN you can use two last names so I'll go by both of them all of the time, he'll use his when we wants, but we'll be the MyName-HisName household. I was so happy about it. Solidarity.
We're doing the same thing! My current (maiden) name as the middle name for both of us, his current name as the last name for both of us.
The name thing made me feel so weirded out that I almost didn't say yes. We've decided to be Mr. & Mrs. Mylast Hislast OR Hislast Mylast (not sure which yet). We'll stay the same professionally.
I really dislike how only the women change their names. If you're okay with it, that's one thing. But if you have to force yourself, so unfair.
It was a hard decision for me as well, I didn't think it would be. I'm lucky to have
a very liberal fiance. He didn't require me to change my name to his last name.
All along I've decided to keep mine but when we went to get our marriage
license, I hypened his last name with mine. In some way, it's nice to see his
name attached to mine.
I want to change my name, but because I have a really common name, much like "John Smith." It has messed up my bank accounts, medical records, school records--and I'm so ready to DUMP IT! I like my name, but for practical reasons, I need a name that doesn't keep causing problems :)
I live in a REALLY liberal area and I have really liberal friends. I feel like people actually would look down on me if I changed it. None of my married girlfriends have changed their names. I would be the odd one out--the super conservative who made them all wear the pink prom dresses as bridesmaids. Actually, a lot of my friends may never marry...
Aaahhh
But you all really helped. Maybe I'll feel better after a good night's rest.
I'm not changing mine. It may be my dad's name, but the cycle needs to be broken somewhere. I told my FI I'd be happy to change my name, but I'd expect him to change his as well. He totally gets it, and we're both keeping our names.
Our kids will have both our names, hyphenated. I can understand wanting to share a name with your kid -- I don't like, however, that society assumes that the child's name will inevitably be the father's name.
I'm changing my name. I have no problem with his, I have two brothers to keep the family name ongoing and it is important to him. I'll have a bit of an issue professionally as I will have at least one publication, under my maiden name but I don't think it will be such a big problem and I'll be married before I finidh my PhD so that will be in my new name. I look at my mom and Iäm sure it was difficult at first but 27 years later, she completely identifies with my dad's last name as her own. I like my name and it has been good to be and I will cringe at the huge fall I'll take in alphabetical listings but it's not really a big deal to me to take his because I like his too. I think if he had a really hard to spell or pronounce name I would feel differently.
Neither my husband or I am changing our names. You're right; it isn't arbitrary that women are expected to change their names.
i NEVER thought i would change my name, but as soon as we got engaged, i all the sudden want to add his name at the end of mine. not change my name--add his. and have 4 names. my middle name now is my mom's maiden name, which my brother and mom also share as their middle names. i'm really feeling the idea of having all 4 names, or hypenating the 2 middle names (my mom's maiden and my maiden name). i would LOVE it if my fi would take my last name as another middle name too, but he's not so into it...i actually said to him, "so, we're really buying into the patriarchy on this??" and he said "sure!" ummm, wrong answer...haha...so i'm still sort of conflicted...but i like the idea of having a unified family name--already when we take our dog to the vet and he's listed as having a different name than me, it feels like they think he's not my dog, and it'll be so much worse when it's a child. i think i'll probably want to just add my or my mom's middle names to our kids' names someday as middle names for them.
but one thing for sure-- i'll also always be a ms.!
For professional reasons, It is going to be a very bad idea for me to take my FI's last name! Mine is very unusual, and his is very common (3 people in my program alone have teased me about how we're all going to be "related" after I get married).
So I'm not taking his name. I'm accepting that I will be called Mrs. Smith socially, especially once I have children, but I'll worry about that when the time comes. As long as I'm working, I am definitely keeping my name!
I am totally with Wonderlanded on this issue. My husband and I did not change anything about our names. I have had these major arguements (said to me by people other than my husband):
1. People won't know you're married.
2. Your kids will be confused.
3. You're just keeping another man's name.
I struggled for a while with all these arguements, but then I just stopped caring. 1, my husband and I know we're married, know we love each other and that we're a family. Does anything else matter? We're not still in the days of unmarried women being looked down upon. At least we should not be.
2, I really doubt my kids will have any confusion over who their mother is. We plan on either giving them my name as a middle, or two (un-hyphanated) last names. Either way, both of their parents names will be involved.
3, this is my name, since birth. At this point it doesn't matter where it originated. I will be starting a generation that honors both parents' ancestry. It has to start somewhere.
For the record, my husband is totally on board with my not changing my name. He comes from a culture in which women do not change their names. How to proceed with the children will take a little more discussion, but its something we are both good at communicating with sensitivity about.
It makes me sad to see how many women struggle with this decision. We should not even be considering this anymore, in my opinion. I love the way its done in hispanic cultures! Much more acknowledgement of BOTH people in the marriage.
I'm fine with being called myname hislastname and even kind of like it but...... I like my last name and I'm in some weird middle land where I want both. So I want to do MyFirst MyLast HisLast and choose who calls me what. Like at work MyLast but on documents HisLast. But the system is so complicated - ack! So what I've been doing is nothing and remaining in weird middle land.
I want to change my name, but is a huge pain in the butt. Particularly professionally. I've been practing law for 5 years and now people are totally confused over who I am.
I'm halfway there, have changed SS card, bank stuff, health insurance, etc. It takes forever though!
Wow, I think I'm in the minority here -- we're not married yet, but I'm super excited to change my name! In my case, I don't see it as male-domination of society or old-fashioned, and I do consider myself liberal and progressive. I come from a family of card-carrying NOW women :) Personally, I haven't been in my career very long, only about three years, haven't earned my PhD yet, haven't been published yet -- so I haven't established my name in any way.
And my current last name does not lend itself kindly to being a middle name. There's an apostrophe, which screws up email, amazon.com and bank cards, it's constantly botched, or called by a completely different name (I am not "old" nor have I ever "owned a farm e i e i o") and like Boston upthread, I'm looking forward to having a name that doesn't require me to spell it out every. single. time. I'm on the phone.
So I guess what I'm saying is -- I'm changing my name not to conform, not to "solidify our family" and not because my FI wants me to. I'm not particularly attached to my current last name and I like his better.
I go back and forth on this issue.
The feminist in me says that taking his name plays into patriarchy and the whole idea that women are objects to be transferred from their father's possession to their husband's possession. It worries me that taking his last name gives signals to society that while I am queer, I've bought into compulsory heterosexuality because I happened to have fallen in love with a man. It says that while my name can be difficult (first and last!) for people sometimes, its a piece of my heritage- letting everyone know a part of who my family is, and frankly, I like that. I love when people can pinpoint where my name is from because 99% of the time, they are wrong, but when they are right, I know they know it because they too are from that area of the world. I like how my names sounds, how all the letters fit together into a kind of song-like flow which i find pleasing. I don't want my last name as my middle name because I already have a perfectly serviceable middle name and my last name does not in any way sound like it could be a middle name.
But I like the idea of being united in our names too. I love the idea of creating a cohesive family unit out of two pieces. I don't like hyphens. I want to share a last name with our kids. While I am already starting to be known professionally under my last name, its still early enough to change that without damaging my future career (or simply confusing people). I like the idea of sharing a last name so that if we ever teach at the same university/college, people will know we're married. And his last name is short, super easy to spell, and people never have to repeat it like mine. He wants me to change my last name and says that it'd upset him if I didn't because he feels its a rejection of who he is and where his family came from. He is conservative in this way and I can see him growing to be annoyed over time that I didn't take his name, having to always explain that to his co-workers and friends. He likes the idea of us being a cohesive family unit Under His Name. He won't even think about changing his last name to mine.
But I don't like how my name sounds with his. Our two cultural names clash, sounding ugly when together. They don't flow. They don't sing. I don't want to have to change my initials. I refuse to hyphen. I don't want to hurt his feelings.
This topic is very very difficult, and I am glad I still have 10 months to work on it!
I'm excited to change my name! I was never all that excited about my last name anyway, people always misspell/mispronounce it, and R has a classic last name. I'm just doing My First My Middle His Last, because it sounds better than cramming them all in, which would culture shock - oh so many nationalities, we're both mutts! - and a real pain.
If I was FSIL, though, I would have kept my maiden name. I'm obviously not going to type out her married name, but it is a MOUTHFUL and sounds just a tad bit hilarious with her first and middle names.
I know FI really wants me to and I probably will end up doing it but I am an only child and there are no male children to keep the name going, which makes me sad, and also it is just such a monumental pain in the a** to change it! If they would make it easier on us ladies to do the name-change it wouldn't be so bad, but I'm totally not looking forward to that at all. I told FI he has to do something special for me if I'm going through all that bulls**t to take his name.
I completely agree with wonderlanded and mskalinin on the matter! I'm not changing -- I would if DH did, too, but at this point we're just keeping our own names. As for the three arguments mskalinin mentioned, 1) I don't see any reason for random people to "know I'm married" and they can always just look at my left hand if they're that curious; 2) the kids will be fine, and we'll give them my last as their middle, mainly because we do a lot of international travel so I want it in their passports; and 3) my name is MINE. It's incidentally my father's, too, and my brother's, and my aunt's, etc. That doesn't mean it belongs to me any less.
My husband would prefer that I change my name, and comes from a country where women don't have the legal option to just keep their own names. It's a little strange to him, but we had several discussions about it and he understands my reasons. He's still a little sad, but nothing compared to what I would be if I caved in and changed my name.
I never thought I would mind taking my husband's name, but after the wedding I just didn't feel like it. After a few months he started to get a little antsy- asking me if I was still going to, offering to go with me etc. So I finally did it and I don't really like it right now, I know it will just take some time... but I miss my old name and sometimes I wish I had just hyphenated. It's weird because objectively speaking I think my new last name sounds better with my first name, but I'm still emotionally attatched to my maiden name.
I feel like feminism is having the option to choose what you want, not to have a "woman's name" or a "man's name" or to have to take one or the other. Different countries and cultures have different traditions, Western countries tend to lean towards the patriarchal tradition.
I see myself as fairly feminist and liberal, but I am changing my name to my fiance's. I like the tradition, I like the idea of sharing a name with our family, I like the ease that comes with it, and I've always wanted to be a "Mrs". However I totally understand that other people don't feel this way and I am so glad that they (and myself) have the option to do something else.
I don't get why other people don't see this and judge people based on a name! So silly.
In Ontario we have to wait 90 days to be able to file for our marriage certificate and you must have that to change your name. (Although, you actually "assume" his name - your birth certificate stays the same and you can still legally sign either name - if you want to legally change your name that changes your birth certificate - why anyone would do that is beyond me)
ANYWAY - I did change my name. It's been changed for almost a year now and I still have trouble with it. I really miss my old last name. It's a great name and thankfully my husband has agreed that our first born (boy or girl) will have it as their middle name :-) I do like having the same name as him, but it's very strange to get used to. He didn't pressure me into it, he said he was good either way. It was my choice, and I'm sure I will get used to it over time. I think having a child with that as their middle name will make me happy too.
My question for those of you who are keeping your last names and giving your children BOTH of your last names - do you expect that they will keep their last names when they are married? Will you be upset if they don't? Would you expect them to give their child both parents names? So in effect giving their child three last names? Just curious...
I am in my early 30s, working for a decade, very independent, but decided to change my name (keeping my maiden as my middle) for a few reasons
- it would make my husband happy, which I want to do as much as possible. He makes the same types of decisions on behalf all the time.
- people are going to call me by his last name socially anwyays, and I really don't want to have two different names. Just one.
- I like that it makes us feel more like family (silly, possibly, but true!)
- I want to share the same last name as my children.
- I could take my maiden as my middle name since I never had a middle name anyways, so I was more adding on to my name than wholesale changing it
However, on this topic, everyone has to do what they want! my reasons might not matter to some people nor should they!
@HL: Where is your husband from, out of curiosity? Sorry if that is prying.
I decided not to change my name, but it's been kind of a weird experience. Since I didn't have to take a step like going to the DMV or anything, I've sort of been thinking about it more over time.
Even though I like the idea of sharing a family name, in the end, I decided that a name doesn't make a family. You can't have everyone's name. I have my dad's last name and not my mom's, and I'm not any less a part of that family since I got married. I'm fine with my future kids having my husband's name because it's just not possible to pass every name down.
I thought about people not knowing I was married, but I think that people should get used to women deciding what to do about their last names. It's more common for woment to keep their names, so I might as well be part of the trend and just explain it to people to help them get used to the idea.
There are tons of reasons to change or not change your name: your career, your feelings about your old name, what sounds good, etc. People should get used to the idea that everyone can choose what's best for them and shouldn't have pre-conceived ideas about what's supposed to happen.
@LilaGrayce: I would not expect anything of my children, just as I would have appreciated people not forcing their expectations on me. If I have a daughter who decides to drop her last name (or names) in favor of her husbands, that's her choice.
The way I see it going forward is this: If we have a daughter with both our last names Jane Smith Jones (smith being her mom's name, jones being her dad's name), if she gets married to Mark Gonzales, I would see her name changing to Jane Jones Gonzales. If she wanted to drop the Jones and only use Gonzales, that would be fine with me, too.
If we had a daughter with my name as her (middle) it would be even easier, She would become Jane (Smith) Jones Gonzales, or Jane (Smith) Gonzales, depending on her preference. Most people don't go by their middle name except for on passports or official documents, and then usually its just an initial.
As for HER children, she has many choices. Either name her daughter Sally Jones Gonzales, Sally (Jones) Gonzales, or Sally (anythingshewants) Gonzales. Its totally up to them. I agree with you that to me, feminism and equality means women should choose freely what the do, as well as men. If a man wants to change his name uipon marriage its quite a bit harder for him in a lot of places!
I have no problem with women deciding not to change their names. I'm a feminist and more power to that decision.
For me, it just works better to change my name to hislast. My career hasn't gone very far and anything I've written has been under a pen name or my blog name (The Scream Queen)
Also, I hate my maiden name. People always misspell it. And when it's misspelled/misprounced, it is an embarassing word (like PP mentioned) It doesn't reflect my heritage (I identify as Irish-American and it's a German name) It makes my name have too many "R" sounds.
I'm also changing it for family reasons as well. I want our kids all to have the same name and no hyphens.
My pastor explained the name change thing to me like this.. he said that getting married is a sacrifical commitment. You leave your familes to be united and certain sacrifices are made. He said that giving up my name and my former "identity" was one of those sacrifices. I just think of it like that.. maybe i'd like to keep my name, but I also want to be completly united with my husband and for me that means changing it.
P.S. Sometimes I forget that I did though so it's weird to get used to.
In my family's culture, all children receive both the father and mother's names, so I've had equal treatment in that respect all my life (using two last names.) As I got older, I dropped my mom's only because two last names can cause problems.
But, since my FI and I intend to keep this tradition, all our children would have both our names regardless of what I go by legally or socially. So, I THINK that will be enough to satisfy the strong woman in me, and so I am keeping on being thrilled about changing to my FI's equally rare but a little shorter last name.
FI wouldn't mind if I kept my name professionally, but since I will just a few months out of college, it won't be too hard for me to change my name now. I will probably hold off on changing it legally until I get my first job though, just to make things easier.
I know some people take issue with the argument "It's another man's name", but to me that's true. I have a strained relationship with my dad and that whole side of the family, and sometimes I don't even feel like a "Lastname". My mom has a different last name than me because she is remarried, so I am not very connected to my name. I mean, I am connected to it in the sense that its my identity currently, but the name in and of itself doesn't hold a lot of positive significance. I'm more than ready to shed it, actually!
Still, I think that no one should feel pressured into changing her name or feel as if it is a social/cultural/religious obligation. I respectfully disagree with your pastor, Shining Star - I think you can create a family and be united without having to change your name to your husband's. I know my name is different from my mom's and my brother's, but I feel 100% connected to them as family. Yes, its a cultural norm, but if it isn't right for you, that doesn't diminish your marriage whatsoever.
From the perspective of someone who didn't change her name and had no intention of doing so, can I just say that maybe the grass is always greener? I have been having these weird twinges where I wish I had taken my husband's name. There's not any pressure from him or from his family or anything like that. I honestly didn't have any idea I would feel this way, but I think it would be nice and meangingful to share a name with him. I'm still not planning on changing my name anytime soon. I dunno, just thought I'd offer that perspective.
Oh, and I thought I'd add that I find it interesting that people always ask what your husband does. No one ever asks me that, at least not right off the bat in the way you seem to be speaking of. Maybe it's a regional thing or maybe it's because I work in a professional field, so people don't assume that my husband is the sole breadwinner?
What was it, Princess Consuella Bannanhamock? That's how Phoebe from friends dealt with it.
I'm not going to change my name when we get married next year. Like some previous posters have mentioned, I personally don't like that this custom is rooted in a sexist, patriachal tradition. That said, I do think that obviously every woman has the right to do what she chooses, and there's nothing wrong with changing your name (I even feel a little funny saying this because really, what does it matter what I think about someone else's very personal decision?).
My FI would love for me to change my name, but he would never change his -- nor would he consider combining our two names, either hyphenated or like Villaraigosa. That bothers me a little -- why is it ok for me to change my name, but he won't even consider changing or modifying his? I understand that this is simply tradition and he obviously doesn't see it as "owning" me or anything. For him (as for many others, I'm sure), it's more about unity as a family and all of us sharing one name. I understand where he's coming from, but I personally don't think that I'll feel any less connected from him or from our kids if I keep my name.
In the end, whatever works for each couple. I think I read somewhere once that some celebrity/actress changed her last name as a birthday gift for her husband one year -- who knows, maybe I'll end up doing that down the line too. :)
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