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PLEASE REVIEW: Namecalling and baiting in the Hive (everyone please read!)

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    Lorienne    January 1, 2016   Los Angeles, CA

    Ladies, we need to address a growing problem in the Hive lately: name-calling.  We have received a growing number of flags from users reporting suspected "trolling" in the Hive.  We appreciate those flags, they give the moderators a heads up when one of our members feels that "something is just not right."

    However, lately we've seen too many people accusing newbees of being trolls.  It is alienating, inappropriate, and most of all unsupportive of that person.  Troll-calling is a personal attack, and these posts may be deleted.  Many times these posters are actually established WB members posting under psuedonyms because they are embarassed to post as themselves.

    Internet discussion boards will always have trolls come and go, especially as they continue to grow like WB has in the past year.  The Mod team actively investigates all flags, and users who are caught trolling are banned when there is evidence to prove that is the case.

    We are asking the Hive, please, if you suspect a member is instigating drama on our boards for the purpose of gaining attention (which is the true definition of a troll), please flag the post and IGNORE IT.  Do not reply with insinuations, insults, or other forms of harassment.  Many members found WB through search engines, and we were all "wannabees" at one point.  New members are not automatic suspects simply because their first post "is dramaz."

    The second part of this issue is name-calling in general.  We have had several threads pop up insulting members of another website, and even linking to that website.  We absolutely do not condone this behavior.  WB is a positive, supportive community intended to help other brides, and defamatory posts aimed at members of another online community aren't helpful or positive.  Worse yet, they bring the drama from other boards here. Links of this nature will be deleted in the future.

    Lastly, we want to address the topic of baiting.

    "Baiting: the act of encouraging responses or replies in order to cause dissent or discord; to instigate participation in a negative way."

    ::eats popcorn::  <----BAITING

    "Here's a link to this other thread where there is dramaz."  <-------BAITING

    "Anyone smell pot roast?"  <-------BAITING

    Anytime you call attention to drama you're amplifying it; you're actively participating in it.  We've seen a lot of posts lately where members are simultaneously flagging users and yet actively encouraging arguments/attacks to continue.  The culture of the community is built on how we interact with each other, and we hope that everyone wants to keep that on the friendly side.  Baiting often encourages members to gang up on someone, so please think twice the next time you pull out your bowl of Orville Redenbacher hoping to watch the next roast.  Your post might be the tipping point in a thread dying or erupting.

    In short, we hope everyone can be treated with respect and dignity on this site. When in doubt, assume that the person has good intentions.  It's better when we're all working together to make honey instead of buzzing around stinging each other.

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    Amaryllis    July 2, 2011  

    Thank you.

     
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    Prewitt    June 19, 2011   England

    Read.

    Shame you have to post about this, though I don't see any of it. ;)

     
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    PitBulLover    August 21, 2010  

    Agree with all of this! Thank you :-)

     
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    MissHoneyBun       Dallas, TX

    Can you add a bit about people sending harassing PMs? That is THE most annoying thing on the bee. I don't get the whole "take it to the PM" thing. If I don't like what someone is saying to me I don't send them malicious private messages. I do it publicly, because I have nothing to hide. The whole you-can't-flame-people-on-the-boards-but-you-can-do-it-privately thing is bogus.

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    If anyone is sending anyone harrassing PMs, please notify a Hostess or a Mod.  We do not have the ability to view PMs so we don't know that this is happening unless someone tells us.

     
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    joy2011    October 22, 2011   NE Ohio

    oh thank you! I love that this is 99.99% such a wonderful and positive community!

     
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    napabridekelsey    August 13, 2011   Live in Corvallis, OR/Wedding in Napa, CA

    Good call. Thanks!

     
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    rachgirl82    December 15, 2011   FL

    Thanks for posting this! Smile

     
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    DesireeAnne    October 13, 2012   South Jersey

    Thanks for posting this.  It was getting quite annoying.

    ETA: I'm not trying to start drama or anything like that, but everyone has always complained about The Knot and the way posters respond to certain threads.  Are we not getting that way too?  It's a shame to see.  I love coming on here, but as of lately it's just been too ridiculous. I hope we can just be there for one another.  If you don't like something or agree, then move on.  It'll be alright.

    "Let It Be."

     
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    Jazziberry    June 11, 2011   Middle TN / Married in Annapolis, MD

    Agree. Thank you.

     
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    elemikaylaphant    July 15, 2012   Augusta Georgia

    Thanks for posting! :)

     
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    MeAndDubby       California

    Is there a list of who the Hostess/Mods are? I've been around here for months and I've seen I think two hostess tags and have no idea who mods are. So when I received a seriously nasty PM, I would have reported it, if I knew who to report it to.

     
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    stellablue5997    September 25, 2010   Florida

    It's sad that this needed to be said, but it's true.  Thanks for posting. 

     
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    organizedbride11    November 11, 2011   Illinois

    couldnt agree more. 

     
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    yrret107    November 28, 2009   Seattle, WA; Married in West Chester, PA

    @meanddubby- the fastest way to contact a mod is to make a request on the support boards.

     
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    milissae    April 21, 2012   Toano, VA

    I haven't run into any of these issues.  Thanks for the heads up.

     
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    LindsayB    August 31, 2012   Michigan

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

     
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    MeAndDubby       California

    @yrret107: Those are where exactly? I've looked through all the tabs and haven't seen any links to them. I found them once, I think, but I don't remember how or where. I think I had to google it.

     
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    aleeshabobeesha      

    @MeAndDubby: Top left of the page, by the brides hair. :)

     
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    hermitcrab    June 2010   NYC

    Thank you so much for all your hard work, Mods and Hostesses!

     
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    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    Thanks for this! I've definitely noticed this quite a bit lately.

     
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    MeAndDubby       California

    @aleeshabobeesha: Thank You! I had to resize my window. Stupid chrome cut it off :( I found it now though. 

     
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    bestbuddies    June 6, 2010   Chicago, Illinois

    agreed. Thanks for posting :)

     
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    slydon    August 13, 2011  

    @Lorienne: whats a Troll... I dont get it.

     
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    Mrs.tobe    September 30, 2011   the middle of there

    @slydon:

    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, mass media uses troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[4][5]

     
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    knight.keira    July 21, 2011   Australia

    I would just like to say that I left THE KNOT website because of this! Grown women ganging up on others and belittling them and bullying them. I thought it was absolutely disgusting behavour and to have THE KNOT do nothing about it especially after I flagged it down is even more of a disappointment!

    @Lorienne Thank you for keeping us bees safe and supported in an online community environment. Why can't people approach every post with the intention to help not "speak their mind with negative criticism." Sometimes humanity is disappointing. I have only seen 1 trolling post, and no nasty comments, but maybe I have been unaware of other boards that this is happening in.  

    I hope this behaviour stops.. I would hate to leave here...

     
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    slicey19      

    Very well written post.

     
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    mspony    September 2011  

    Thank you for all your hard work, Mods and Hostesses!

     
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    jam    June 2011   Chicago, Ill.

    The Mods and Hostesses rock...thanks oodles for posting this :)

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    @MeAndDubby: There is also an up to date listing of the Hostesses here.

     
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    ellabee    July 3, 2011   Virginia

    Thank you.

    And sorry.

     
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    assilem    July 30, 2011  

    Nice!  I hate that "eats popcorn" crap.

     
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    Tennessee2Carolina    May 22, 2011   Memphis Tn

    what does that Mean? Eats popcorn..Ive never heard that..?

     
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    Zinzerena    April 14, 2012   Virginia

    Thanks, ladies, for posting this!

    I'll admit that I've done my share of flagging when things get too bad or when there's been an outright attack against a fellow bee (that was totally uncalled for).  I typically ignore the problem-poster and comment on the OTHER posts (ignoring a person is okay, right?)  Unless there's other comments going on, I'll just leave the thread. 

    I love the Bee because for the most part, we can have honest, open discussions (and light-hearted arguments) but when someone comes in and starts deliberatly arguing a point just to start drama, it really sucks and puts a damper on things.

    Thanks, ladies, for everything you do!!!!  :)

     

     
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    Zinzerena    April 14, 2012   Virginia

    @Tennessee2Carolina: it's typically done to show you're watching the drama and enjoying it.  Like you'd do while watching a movie or TV.  

    typically it looks like this :  *eats popcorn* or ::eats popcorn::  

    I will admit, sometimes it can be done in a FUN way, depending on the conversation.  But during a lot of the more drama-filled/argumentative threads, it's done just to be a smart-ass or to show the person is enjoying watching (or just watching/reading) the show that's going on.

    hopefully that makes sense!

     
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    magic    October 29, 2011   Chapel Hill, North Carolina

    Thanks Mods and Hostesses! You guys do a lot of work to keep this an awesome place!

     
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    TheFutureMcBride    August 2010   Virginia

    Thank you Mods and Hostesses for making this place awesome!

     
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    Mrs. Spring    May 10, 2009   California

    This a great reminder!  A big shout out to all the "behind-the-scenes" people who make WB so great!

     
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    Ivyperks    August 8, 2012  

    As above! (I confess I didn't get the 'eats popcorn' or 'let's have pot roast' either! What is pot roast?? - not something seen in the UK!)

    Anyhoo - great job Mods and Hostesses!

     

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