Post # 1
So I’m clueless on this stuff and have seen contradicting info on the internet. I just started shopping around for an engagement ring for my girlfriend and found one that I really liked, but the center stone is 4 smaller stones rather than one large one. I’ve seen this called a “quad” setting but also seen terms like “illusion”, “invisible”, “composite” thrown around.
I don’t make very much (neither does my gf) so have a relatively low budget. $1,000 or less is great, anything over $2,000 is too much. My girlfriend isn’t materialistic at all, so I don’t think she’ll care how much I spent. This ring comes with the wedding band as well and happens to be on sale so I could get it for just under $1,000. And the thing is I really like this ring for my girlfriend. I’ve seen other ones with a “solitaire” diamond that are still in my budget and technically are worth more, but I just didn’t like the ring as much. I like the setting on this one as it’s very unique with a “rope” decoration on the side and I think it suits my girlfriend. The band is just something I haven’t seen anywhere else I’ve looked (and some places with “original” bands are way out of my price range). If the ring had a single diamond instead of the quad I’d pay another $500 for it, but that’s not the case.
So my question is, what are your opinions on this quad situation? I’ve read that it’s harder to clean and that it’s more likely the stones can fall out. The thing is the store says to bring it in 2-times a year and they’ll clean it for free and it has a lifetime warranty if a stone falls out. So in my mind that kills the two big cons for having the “quad” setting. Am I missing something else? Is there a reason I should be wary?
It’s from Zales and I’ve been warned about “quality” at the mall stores. I’m no expert, but to my naked eye it looks great. I couldn’t even tell it wasn’t one diamond and it’s very “sparkly” even not in direct light … I looked at a ring in Kay Jewelers and it was just extremely dull in the light relatively so I could tell the difference.
Below are photos of the ring and then the ring and band.
Thanks everyone for your advice!
This topic was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by Countdown3.
This topic was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by Countdown3.
Post # 2
Do you know what she wants? I would much rather have a small solitaire than a larger quad, but there are women here who would want the opposite. Have you tried looking online at Blue Nile or James Allen? Their quality tends to be better for the price than mall jewelers.
Post # 3
Countdown3: I think its lovely….although on here many women loathe rings like that….however i know several women in real life that have them and honestly….i dont mind them….I really dont…..If you feel it suits her then go for it…and I HIGHLY reccomend ring insurance you can get it pretty cheap (mine for a ring of similiar price is like $20/year through my uncle) I think its perfect circle you can get good insurance through too….
But if you feel its right for your lady then it probably is…..you know her better then we will….and if the quad stone remains an issue…set a goal…that for your 5 year (or whatever anniversary you choose) you will replace them with a solid center stone….is what most couples i know will do…but if your worried about stability i highly recommend insurance because that way if something happens it can be fixed….and i do know some people who have had good luck with zales….and some not so much…same with every company…..
so good luck…hope she likes it….(you can always recruit a good friend of hers or her mom or someone to peek at it first, or my favorite….what my sisters DH did, was take her into the store to look at “a gift for someone”….and casually go by the rings and say wow what do you think of that one thats pretty…. and gauge her reaction….or just flat tell her and say “hey im starting to look at rings….lets go look and see what you like and then ill pick from there”….she can give you direction and you still get the element of suprise….)
Post # 4
It’s very pretty. There is no “right” or “wrong” with preferences about ring styles, it’s really just boils down to what the 2 people involved want in terms of budget, design, practicality, symbolism etc.
Some people are very discriminatory towards quads, thinking that they are trying to be something they’re not (a big source of contention generally around The Bee, across many topics not just rings). At the end of the day, the only people’s opinions that matter are hers and yours.
Has she ever indicated that she’d want to be involved or give input into the ring choice? If so, I think you should run a few pictures by her to see what kind of style she gravitates towards. Also, does she want a diamond or a different kind of stone? Coloured stones in general are significantly less expensive than diamonds, ie. more “bang for your buck” if you’re looking for a larger size.
Post # 5
I say go for it! It’s clear you’ve put a lot of thought in this, and weren’t as wowed by the solitaire. It’s not bad to be unique sometimes and I much, much, much prefer quads to get a larger look with more finger coverage than a halo.
The ring is simple and classic, but with a twist-I’m sure she’ll live it! Good luck!!
Post # 6
I think you got some excellent advice over on pricescope, they even found better quality cluster rings than the zales one posted along with single stone options.
I would want some input on her preferences before proceeding with a quad And if you’d rather go with a cluster style ring, I would go with a better vendor than zales.
eta: is this the link? http://www.zales.com/princess-cut-quad-diamond-bridal-set-10k-white-gold/product.jsp?productId=12940102′ defer=’defer
Its i2 clarity which likely means that the stones will be super gray and included outside of the jewelry store lights. I would recommend looking at it outside and in all lights before committing. sparkle is usually a big deal for girls, and with stones not well cut and heavily included it will likely not have the best sparkle. The jewelers store lights are made to make everything look great.
Post # 7
I personally strongly dislike quads. I think it would do you a lot of good to include your gf in they ring design/purchase process. Have you looked into moissanite? That might be a good option for your budget, but I would absolutely get your gf’s opinion.
Post # 8
Thanks everyone for the advice. I’m starting to look online for other options as I hadn’t considered that before and some have recommended it since you get more for your money.
I liked this band was the main thing and I don’t think at Zales they do the custom thing where they could replace the center with 1 solitaire instead of the quad although I could ask. I don’t even know how much that costs, but since this was very in my budget I could probably do that eventually.
I don’t want to ask her because I want this a surprise (she doesn’t know it’s coming). From past conversations I know she likes princess cut and white gold and I don’t think she would want a halo. That was a good idea though asking someone to get ideas from her for me … I could ask her mom to do that.
Post # 9
I used to work at Kay. What they do not tell you about the quad rings (or “Princessa”) is that if one of the stones in the center falls out, they need to send the whole ring in for 6-12 weeks because they need to custom cut the missing stone in order to fit in with the other three. They fit together in a locking manner so it’s not the quick 2-week turn around time as compared to other repairs.
Also, the quad ring is a cheaper version of a solitaire. It’s cheaper because they stones are smaller, and not as higly rated as other stones you can buy. You don’t have to buy a solitaire; get a ring with a beautiful band and swirly designs that you like, but DO NOT BUY A QUAD!!
Post # 10
I wouldn’t be happy AT ALL if I got a quad. Sorry, but you asked. To me they d not look like “fine jewelry”.
I second going to Pricescope.com for info and help.
Post # 11
I am one of the women who would prefer a smaller single stone than four stones put together to appear like one bigger stone. There are a lot of women like that. But then there are some who prefer the larger look. I think you will be able to find a lovely ring within your price range (stick to your guns and do not let them talk you into going higher than what you are a comfortable with), but as much as you want it to be a surprise, you definitely need to get her mom, or better yet, a friend, so some digging to find out what she likes and does not like. You have to ask yourself, would you rather be totally surprised with a gift that wasn’t really something you liked (but would for the sake of caring about the person who loved you enough to get it for you, had to pretend for the rest of your life that you did) or have an inkling that someone was getting you a gift that you would absolutely love? It’s so sweet that you’re putting a lot of thought into this. Sounds like she is a lucky lady. Please update us when you do make your purchase:)
Post # 12
You asked this question on pricescope and were given some good advice and alternatives so I’m not going to mince words. Your fiance to be might like the ring…or she will hate it. Personally I would be in the hate category because I’m not into things that are designed to resemble something they’re not. Plus Zales, Kay, etc have terrible overpriced schlock and some of those teeny diamonds are likely going to fall out.
Why not get a nice simple solitaire in a size you can afford from one of the vendors mentioned in your PS thread? It is elegant, classic and tasteful and the ring you have picked….is not.
Post # 13
Go with what the people on Pricescope said.
Post # 14
Each woman is different. I don’t like quads for myself but then again I have seen some that are truly beautiful so it really depends. I suggest getting one of her friends or family members to do some investigating for you. Pity you don’t live in South Africa like I do, our engagement rings are a lot cheaper than the states
Post # 15
I’ve seen a few people with quads, and they love them. It’s not my personal taste, but everyone has their own likes. I think that the ring you found is beautiful in it’s own way. Personally, I would suggest to find a local jeweler. We went that route, had a custom ring made, and they clean it and send it in for repairs for free whenever we need it. If I went into the store every single day, they would still offer to clean my jewelry for me (regardless of where it’s from). In my opinion, local is the best way to go. Great service and great quality.