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The girls are a part of his life. Just like if you had children, they would be included in the package; like it or not. I think you should make an effort to get to know them. If they do not reciprocate, then at least you have made the effort. If I was them and you had not made an effort to get to know me, I would be upset and would not want to be part of the wedding either.
It sounds as though the young women may have legitimate grudges to hold against their father, which perhaps only therapy and years will be able to help them move past. I would advise you, if you feel strong enough, to be the best person you can be in this situation and forgive them all their petty remarks and simply reach out to them. Ask them to help with the weddding, ask them to do readings in the ceremony, ask them to go out for lunch or anything. It is, at this point, your responsibility to help repair the errors of the past and establish brand new friendships in their place. Perhaps it is possible that these girls might come to like spending time with you, and become friends with you through your goodwill.
Thanks for the advice. I will take them out. Although I do want to clarify with Littlestbird that their grudges against their father, included items such as he didn't contribute enough to their wedding thus she didn't feel obligated to run around all over the place for our wedding, and that she feels her daughters should not be flower girls in our wedding because it is his third wedding and she wants them to be in her sister's wedding that will be the her first time. So no, those are not legitimate grudges. The true reason for her venting is she wanted her father to pay for her husband's tux (because that was when the email came), and when that didn't forthcome (he already gave her money for the girls' flower dresses) and on top them not involved (we had already planned on having them helping, but was not sure what they would want to do), she blew up. Truth be told, it was all about money with them. But yes, we will try to involve them somehow for the wedding, maybe reading or something so that if they decide to back out, no one will know the difference as they will the flower girls.
I just read over my post, and I realized that I didn't clarify that the oldest daughter has two daughters (his grandchildren), they were the intended flower girls, not his daughters. Sorry for the confusion.
i really have no experience with this, so maybe my perspective is off base, so take this with that in mind. but even after reading your clarification afterwards, i agree with littlebirds. i know i'd be really hurt and offended if my dad was getting remarried and i wasn't invovled in the wedding except being asked to run errands--and i'd probably come up with other excuses to express my anger without talking about a deeper hurt. so you may think the things she said are "illegetimate" reasons, but there may be deeper causes of hurt, and it would help build your relationship with his daughters to try and reach out. also, you keep referring to them as your fi's daughters rather than your future step-daughters--even though they are still adults, you are their stepmother. you say they are immature, but they're dealing with their father--i know a lot of people who are very mature in their other relationships, but whose interactions with their parents is very parent-child driven--it can take until a situation when the son or daughter has to step in and take care of their parent for the son/daughter to see their parent as another adult. it can take longer for the parent-child relationship to grow up, if that makes sense
I agree with Finnaroo. It's very hard on a child (even an adult child) to see thier parent as a fellow adult. For the most part we see our parents as people who are suppposed to take care of us and whom should always put us first. You may see them as a 20-something-year-old throwing a temper tantrum but really they are speaking with their 'daddy' and he's not doing what they think he should.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are right. And I would be super annoyed with them being so immature, but as their stepmom it's something you're going to be dealing with for the rest of your life so you're going to have to see it from thier perspectives.
Your friends may come and go but those girls are going to be in your life forever. Day in day out, every holiday, birthday.. etc... The faster you build a relationship with them the better the rest of your life will be. And you definietly don't want your wedding to be a bad feeling for the rest of your life because you didn't include them.
What were the causes of their parent's divorce? Has their father been a supportive dad in their life?
There are few roles in life that are harder than being a stepmom. In the begining, it is all about having to reach out and make an effort that will often not be appreciated. And then you try again, cheerfully.
You state that you haven't made much of an effort to get to know them, and that is your responsibility. And your FI should know better since these children have already had one stepmother.
This is his third wedding - I can't imagine any of them are particularly happy about that, especially considering the fact that he is marrying a woman they don't really know. They are focusing on the bridal party roles because it is symbolic of a deeper problem.
I agree with everyone...they should be somehow included in the wedding...you already have your bridesmaids...but can you invite them to the bachelorette party? They might not show up...but you made the effort. I think that you do need to make the effort here...or else things are only going to get worse. They may be immature and young...but they are still going to be your family very soon!
Thank you for all of your advices, as I've said before, I will be taking them out to appease them. I know that their mom and dad divorced because of lots of arguments over money issues (high maintenance), so it is a learned prospective. I do realize that they will be a part of my life soon. I don't call them my step daughters on intention, I still call my ex husband"my ex husband", I am simply the type of person who likes boundaries. Title and otherwise. FI is VERY involved with their lives, constantly taking them out and helping them out financial on demand, babysit and whatever they need, he is there for them. I guess a part of it is also we are having a really small wedding and really trying to cut costs everywhere so whenever I discuss with him about what they can do, really outside of being a part of bridal party to stand up for the bride/groom, there is really no other role that require women (small ceremony and restaurant). Again, once we meet with the pastor, we will know how many reading or whatever else we may require we can ask them to do. I do believe that my FI and I did discuss what they can do, but there is honestly very little to do. (All of my friends have offered to sing, play music, photos, set up arrangements, and pick up cake) Yes, even the big jobs are done. So I do believe the only thing left is just the reading of scriptures in church. Thank you for all of your contributions though.
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Yes, add me to the family drama board. Here is the situation, my FI is 11 years older than I am, his daughters are 20 and 25. They are sweet girls for the most part, but do have a mouth and attitude to go with it. My biggest problem is that they would roll their eyes at their dad (my FI) and make comments like: "what are you? Retard??" in a casual way which I am not used to. (As in someone's grown up child talking to their parent that way). So we've been dating for over a year and engaged to be married in a few months. I haven't honestly make effort to take them out to get to know them, it doesn't help that they are usually busy and when we invite them for occasions, they might come if they feel like it or they might decide to cancel at the last minute. So I asked my close friends and my daughter to be the bridesmaids. The dilemmas is this, my FI has told the oldest girl's husband to be the groomsman and his daughters to be the flowergirls, just recently, his oldest daughter decided to send him a email telling him that she does not wish for them to be a part of the wedding because of the past hurt he has cause in her wedding years ago. It was a venting letter that is pretty immature in nature, which is what I observed in their behaviors. But my FI talked it out with her, pointing out her immature points. So now she has allowed her husband to be the GM, but still not her daughters to be flowergirls (which still hurts my FI's feelings, even if he doesn't say so). But I am now pressured by him and his mom (whom I do respect and love dearly) to take the girls out. (A part of their venting had to do with the fact that they were not a part of the wedding nor are they invited to the bachelorette party, which consist of just the bridesmaids and myself). Although I really don't want to, I will do so for his sake, but should I just take them out to dinner, or do something more to give in to their whims?? (His other daughter was suppose to pick up the wedding cake and she has also backed out and I was able to find someone to replace the flower girl and cake pick up now). Once we speak to the pastor, we will know exactly what else we need for the ceremony, I was going to ask them to do something in there such as a reading or something, but now I am not sure, what do you bees think??