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    MsBBerry    September 2009  

    To many of you this may sounds ridiculous. But I’m struggling with my problems of becoming a full blown snoop and it’s killing me from the inside as well as my relationship.

    Some of you might have read a few threads I posted 3-4 months ago. Back then I was dealing with just finding out my SO was still watching porn and masturbating even after our marriage/ moving in together. The reason I even found out he watches porn after we got married was he once left it on while he was in the shower. Of course that was obvious, it was displayed on his screen in motion with nothing to deny. In my last post it seems like we were heading down a healthy path of open talking –some talks did get emotional and turned into heated arguments but in the end of that chapter was my SO promised me 3 times (on 3 different occasions) that he would try to watch less, and try not to watch. After the day he promised he would try to watch less porn, he has always kept all doors in the house open (even the bathroom) to clear my suspicion that he was secretly masturbating, and has been downloading 10-15 minutes of porn clips a week.

    I should have been satisfied with that conclusion right? I mean, first of all he never hid the fact from the first day we dated that he watches porn (and helps himself) he even gave a number that it is 3 times a week. Second, in his culture and religion porn is not dirty nor cheating on the contrary it is viewed as a healthy outlet. Third, he was reluctant at first but decided to be on board with no sex until marriage so we both didn’t know what we were getting regarding compatibility.

    BUT…I took the wrong turn and it led into a deep dark filthy path. I snooped. At first it was from curiosity what type of porn he was watching. Would it be hot girls with big boobs doing crazy stuff? Would it be rape porn or child porn? When I snooped I found that his stuff was pretty much normal, just not-near-perfect looking people, having “normal” sex. On top of that the website he gets his porn from sensors out the …ahem…“body parts” so mostly you’d see 2 naked people with their “parts” mosaiced out, thrusting around and you’d need a bit of imagination. That made me feel better for less than a day.

    The next day I wanted to know particularly “when” he had been watching in the past. It took me a while to figure out, checking dates downloaded, times the file was accessed, computer history and what each websites were…you can see I am getting pretty obsessed right? But figuring that out just made things worse, I would constantly think “how dare he!” or “what! But that day you said you had work to do!” etc….

    That period was over the winter vacation, and we happened to not go anywhere this year to save money so I had too much time on my hands. The snooping got uglier and uglier almost every time he left his computer I walked into check if he had been watching porn. Of course sometimes I would find it and get pissed (kept it to myself), other times when I didn’t I would just think “maybe he’ll watching porn tonight or tomorrow” or “it’s been 5 days now since h elast watched so I know it has to be soon!”. In once incident I accidently screwed up his computer and it crashed, so I had to tried to get everything back to normal before he suspected. Another incident I actually deleted some of his stuff from rage (I admit that was very shameful).

    Fast forward pass the holidays, I was getting worse. I had neither tactic nor shame and desperately snooped as an addiction. He’s a computer wiz, and little did I know that he sets up a monitoring program to protect his computer from hackers (since he leaves his computer on all day with no password). He didn’t want to doubt me but after the suspicious computer crash he went in and checked the logs and found out all my snooping. He decided to test his suspicion out and sure enough the days that he even clicked on a porn website or downloaded porn, a few hours later my face would show some awkward unhappiness and his computer log would show up that someone was going through his stuff. So he pretty much knew he’d caught me.

    HOWEVER he decided to wait for me to come clean and be honest. He waited for over a month and nothing happened except the snooping got worse to the point he announced that he is setting up a password.  I was furious and tried even harder to snoop…falling into another trap of being caught. He got bored of the game first so he kept asking me if I had anything to tell him. I kept lying through my teeth. Till yesterday he told me he was really tired of this and gave me one last chance to come clean. I continued to lie and then he told me about the computer log and that he knew all along and has been waiting for me to be honest. I argued back that I HAD to check because I didn’t know if he was keeping up to his word. And that I wanted to know if he was really only watching 10-15 minutes a week or was he also watching stuff over the web as well. His reply was “Oh so you don’t trust my word that I am trying?!”.

    I posting this long post to say, I’m so so lost. As much as I dislike my SO to watch porn or masturbate instead of taking care of me, I never knew I would go this far and get this ugly. I’m pretty sure I spent more time thinking about him and porn than the actual time he was watching it. I am have lost my ability to trust without evidence and monitoring and my SO is not happy that I request that control over him. I am disgusted of myself and I’m ready to be scolded by the hive. I don’t know what happened to me it just turned into a very unhealthy addiction. My life is so miserable, ever since I feel the need to control my SO! Even my mother who always supports me says I am being ridiculous…I don’t know what went wrong, someone tell me how to stop!

     
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    Mrs. Louboutin    July 2010  

    Step back from the computer, take a deep breathe, and remember why you married your FI. 

    Why are you snooping on your HUSBAND? 

    I know that my FI watches porn from time to time.  He doesn't hide it from me and I don't even care. 

    Are your needs to being met in the relationship?  Is that what this is about?  If not, does him looking at this really bother you that much?  If so, why?  Is it because you think it happens to frequently? 

    I think I'm not understanding why you are so upset.  Guys watch porn from time to time.  It's normal for them.  Granted, if this was something that happened every day, that might be a red flag, but occasionally isn't a big deal.

    Also, why are you snooping on him?  Why do you feel like you can't trust him?  He isn't cheating on you or going out with other women or hiding other relationships from you?

     

     
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    monitajb    July 17, 2010   Sacramento

    My best advice is to ask him to password lock his computer. Really. If you are having a hard time controlling yourself, don't give yourself the opportunity. No one would expect a recovering alcoholic to hang out in a bar, you need to take the step of not giving yourself the opportunity to snoop.

     
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    I think you may need to seek marriage counseling.  Your description of "addiction" sounds very accurate, and it is affecting your DH's trust in you.  By going to counseling, maybe you can answer some of the questions MrsLouboutin asked, and maybe some more your DH has for you.  No everyone is offended by porn, but clearly you are.  Having an objective person to stand there and talk this out between the two of you would really help.  I hope you'd consider it.  You sound like you want outside help, and having your DH there with you may help too.

     
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    Tulip61110    June 11, 2010   Philadelphia

    I second both monitajb and MightySapphire's recommendations.

     
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    His Barista    September 4, 2010   Spokane, WA

    Why does it bother you that he watches porn/maturbates? My FI watches porn and we both maturbate. If he's not meeting your needs, you need to let him know. I second the PP's who have suggested marriage counseling.

     
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    MsBBerry    September 2009  

    Thanks for all the advice! We had a lot of problems last year and were considering counseling..but then after a bit things in general slowy got better and we seemed to be communicating for a while. And now it's downhill again...

     
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    teaadntoast    04/23/2010   New York, NY

    I agree with Mrs, Louboutin and MightySapphire - Your husband needs to password protect his computer and the two of you might want to look into counselling.  Neither of you seems to truth the other very much right now, and things can't possibly improve between until that's been addressed.

    What bothers you about his watching porn or masturbating?

     
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    lilyfaith    June 23, 2012   Lakeview, Chicago

    I think there is a much bigger issue here than the snooping, which is probably a result of the bigger problem: the two of you equate his masturbation and watching porn completely differently. 

    As you said, to him, it's totally normal. And to an extent I agree with this. My caveat would be if it interferes with your sex life, then it's a problem. If all of the sudden he doesn't want to have sex anymore with you, or can't have sex without porn on, there'd be a problem. 

    But your feelings are valid, too. I can totally see how porn would make you feel like you're not good enough. (Although I'm guessing for him it's more of a habit than anything) and I think you're on the right track with talking openly about it. It sounds like you've got a really great guy who is willing to listen to you, so I'd sit down with him and have a conversation about the following: 

    1) Why he watches porn. Is it because he can't masturbate without it? Is there something that would make him feel better about this - ie, you taking some fun pictures, the two of you filming something together, or you helping him out? Even if these things are just for fun, part of the time? 

    2) Why you feel so uncomfortable about it. Remember not to get defensive here! 

    3) Why you snooped, and how it made you feel. I think at this point, you need to make a commitment & a promise not to to snoop anymore. And with that, I want to bring up...

    4) He shouldn't have to feel like he needs to leave all the doors open. He should be allowed to have his privacy, and not feel like there's anything wrong with that. I think that openness is good, but does not mean never closing a door. I'm guessing he started this because he loves you so much he was trying to show you how much he was changing. 

    Either way, I think you two are both working really hard with this and are on the right track. You're clearly both committed to each other and making your relationship work for the both of you. I hope my advice has helped, and please feel free to PM me if you'd like to talk more about it. I'm still in my undergrad, but my focus is Clinical Psych and I have taken a few classes relating to subjects like this, mostly because the FI and I have dealt with our own sexual and emotional issues, and I think it's an important topic that does not get discussed openly enough. Good luck!

     
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    littlemissmoo    July 18, 2010   London, UK

    I think you've already made the first very important step. Calling your snooping an addiction. I definitely agree with the PPs that you should look into counseling. You've caused your husband to call his trust in you into question and that's not good and likewise you have no trust (it sounds like) in your husband otherwise you wouldn't snoop. I think a neutral 3rd party really needs to sit with you guys and help you to figure out what it is that is going to help make your marriage work.

     
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    MsBBerry    September 2009  

    @teaadntoast, I guess it would be jealously...the thought of him getting aroused by other women and enjoying himself. Also the fact that during the normal working weeks he doesnt have the time nor stamina to take care of my needs. I only get Saturday night. So even if his porn watching/masturbating is once a week or less I feel like it's the same pace as what I am getting. Maybe I secretly feel like with me it's a chore with porn it's desire? And I have to say I think I'm turning into a control freak.

     
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    beachybride10    May 6, 2010  

    Ok well I last spring happened to use FI cell and the first thing that popped up was naked pictures of girls. I wasn't happy. It had more to do with him hiding it from me than anything. Normal men look at porn and I would be more worried if they didn't. I have major self worth issuie's so to me porn is scary but I would never limit it for him. Your setting yourself up by doing this. Secondly mastubating honestly is easy compared to having sex. It's over and done in 3-5 mins.  Have you ever been the aggessor in sex? That may work. I dont know too many men that once the women gets them worked up that won't follow thru..Use your control issue to your advantage...take control and see how he responses, I bet you both would be surprised.

     
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    PirateJenn    June 21, 2011   Denver

    I kind of have the same issue, except my husband is pretty stupid when it comes to computers, and I am definitely the computer wiz of the two of us! I get annoyed that my husband looks at porn more than me. But there's also the fact that he goes to work at 4pm, gets home at like 4am, and I see him for 2 hours a day. We have 2 kids though, so those 2 hours he's awake, its not even possible for us to do anything. But I feel like i'm not good enough sometimes. We had a huge talk about this a few months ago and he said sometimes he just wants to do it himself, which i completely understand, but when it got to the point where he was looking at it more than me i was pissed. I kind of just say whatever right now though, due to his schedule and mine. And a friend was like well why don't you have him wake you up when he gets home. Um yea, I'd kill him, like seriously i'd punch and scream at him! Having 2 kids, ages 3 and 1, i don't really get much sleep! So thats not an option.

    I agree though that maybe he should do the password thing. I guess what you dont know can't hurt you, and I wish that my husband knew how to do all that. Cause I hate snooping and seeing that he's looked at it because he's too lazy to erase the internet history, but at the same time, if he did erase it i guess i'd know he'd looked at it anyways, but its still annoying, after two kids, its looks like a bomb went off and my body is shot, so to see that he's looking at these skinny amazingly gorgeous women, i feel like shit about myself.

     

     
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    Wow. I think you need to get to counseling stat. I'm definitely not judging you... I think you had a right to be angry about it in the first place and I think you should have gone to counseling then. You just made it clear that he wasn't meeting your needs but using porn to meet his own more frequently, and that's not healthy. Your addiction to snooping on top of that just makes it even worse... I really suggest you get to someone that can help you two talk it out. And your FI may really consider quitting watching porn--obviously this is something you feel passionate about and your needs aren't being met by him. He's part of the problem too, not just you.

     
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    teaadntoast    04/23/2010   New York, NY

    @annie - Sorry!  Just saw your response.  Issues of jealousy aside, it seems as though the two of you have different expectations of what's acceptable in terms of frequency.  Do you think you would still feel jealous if the two of you had a more active sexual relationship?  You mentioned that in his culture, porn is generally seen as n acceptable form of release - were you raised to see it differently?  You mentioned that you and your husband abstained until marriage, did this include discussing sex and what you want in bed?  Were both of you virgins?

     
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    LacyLust    May 21, 2011   Ohio

    I agree with LaborofLove. The problem is not just you. I don't think you need to be so down on yourself. I don't know; maybe I'm alone in this opinion but SOMETHING is making you snoop. You obviously aren't trusting that he is actually cutting back and trying to quit. You want it out of your life completely & he doesn't/can't. I think that he needs to try and meet your needs more. To me it's a touchy subject. Some woman can be laid back about it and not care that they're man is doing it. I'm in the other boat (as you seem to be). I don't want anything to do with it and to me it's disrespectful for my FI to have any part of it as well. Anyone is going to feel self-concious knowing that they're FI/Husband is getting turned on by looking at other woman. I don't know. I agree that couseling would probably help but I don't think you should be beating yourself up so much. There are a lot of relationships in your same situation; you'd probably be surprised by the numbers. I think if you can both get a little help it would be best. Because just like your Snooping is an Addiction; So is your man Watching Porn. It's an addiction not "noraml" or "natural." Just because men have that steryotype doesn't mean they all follow it.

     
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    GirlWithARing    September 5, 2010   Living in NYC, marrying in Philadelphia

    I had a period where I got addicted to snooping on FI. We shared all our passwords in case we needed to look stuff up for each other, and I went through his email and facebook messages. It had nothing to do with porn, but more like email exchanges with his mom and a couple close female friends. Sometimes they would write stuff about me and I wanted to see what they were saying, but then it became a general addiction to snooping on his emails. What made it worse was sitting at the computer at work all day with a lot of downtime - it would give me ample opportunities to snoop. 

    When I realized I was addicted to looking at his emails, I asked him to change his password. It cut out the problem completely. I think that your issue isn't about the porn (though that is a separate issue that you guys are working through), but just the temptation of the open computer. If you need to have him password protect it in order to stop, I think that's completely fine. 

     

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