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Hi all. I know a lot of brides on here are 2nd-timers and I am probably going to offend but if I was invited to someone's first wedding and second wedding, I would not bring a gift the second time around..especially if they registered. I feel like the most I should give would be a card with a donation or small gift card in it or something. I don't disagree with 2nd marriages; I think it's lovely that you're able to celebrate your love and union..again (s*** happens!)..but some people are having 3rd, 4th, and 5th weddings and it's getting a little out of control. Just when does the gift madness end? I would want to come to have fun and support them because if I was invited, I would obviously mean something to the couple but just how many towel sets does one need? After receiving all these amazing gifts so far for my 1st wedding, I would feel terribly guilty and awkward if I were to receive them all again from the same people 10 years later.
So if YOU are a 2nd time bride (or more) what do you expect to get on your wedding day? Did you register? Am I wrong/old-fashioned for feeling this way?
If you were/are a GUEST to a 2nd time wedding, would you give a gift that was the same value the 1st time around? Not at all? Best wishes only?
Just wondering.
Edit: I would like to add that I do NOT disagree with 2nd marriages. My parents are both divorcees and have been married now for 20-some years. It DOES work, all the time. I guess my point was that elaborate 2nd weddings seem like another gift-grab. I do appreciate all of your opinions though--definitely getting a different perspective.
I would still give a gift regardless. Maybe not the traditional house-stocking stuff as the couple are not as likely to be starting from scratch on setting up home, but a normal value gift. Personally I think every wedding shoud be seen as special in tis own right.
I'd still give them a gift if it was their 2nd wedding. IMO so what if you gave them towels 10 years ago- towels wear out & I'd assume that if they divorced they no longer had the towels. I don't usually give gifts at a wedding- I give a card & either a check or a visa giftcard.
I'd give them a gift regardless if it was the 1st, 2nd, or 20th wedding. IMO, it's rude to show up to a wedding without a gift.
I'd give a gift, but maybe not a traditional gift. I would probably give some money & a nice bottle of wine or something. Maybe tickets to a show or a GC to a restaurant. Presumably, they're more established than a couple on their first marriage, so it would feel weird to me to give towels or china.
I'm not offended when second time couples register. The only time I'd be offended is if they do the same things that offend me with a first time couple: ask for money, list registry on the invitation, etc. A registry doesn't mean a gun is held to my head making me buy off it. If they need new towels, they need new towels. Besides, maybe one of the two is on his/her first wedding, and I think everyone should get to experience all the traditional wedding stuff (registering included) if they wish.
I would give a gift no matter what. I've been invited to someone's 5th wedding (and all the ones before it). I gave a gift. But I know that they didn't want gifts and didn't register. I just think it's polite to give a gift, I mean they are still paying money to host and feed everyone.
I can only speak as a guest - and I think there would be lots of other factors coming into play. Is it a second marriage for both the bride and groom, or just one or the other? Which do I know, and how closely, etc? How long ago was it (as my financial circumstances could have changed drastically in-between, too)?
I don't believe in coming empty-handed as a guest (at weddings or in general) - so I would give the happy couple something. Particularly if it is the groom's second marriage, but the brides first, I would be more inclined to go off the registry.
i'd give a gift, just because their first marriage didn't work out, doesn't mean they shouldn't get a gift this time. the ONLY time i wouldn't give a gift for a second wedding, is if they got married to each other for the second time (ie. a renewal of vows), and even then i might give something small
Yeah, I'd never show up at a wedding without a gift, no matter how many times I saw them get married previously.
I'm a second time bride and don't expect gifts from anyone, but I especially don't expect gifts from people who went to my first wedding...though it is kind of sucky for my FI, since it's his first wedding.
As for being awkward receiving them the second time around, well...my situation is weird, but my ex spitefully broke a bunch of the "first" gifts and threw out a bunch that couldn't be broken before he left. So I still need to buy them again when I can afford it, and keeping track on a registry makes it really easy and you get the registry benefits. Also, for half the guests it'll be a first wedding anyway so I don't feel bad about using a registry. IMO, as long as one guest there wants to buy a gift in their price range and they want to use a registry to pick it, a registry is just fine and it's no different than a first wedding in that regard.
@HappierKate: Wow...what a horrible thing your ex did. What a shame he couldn't be mature about the situation.
I would give another gift. I think there are so many circumstances where a marriage doesn't work out and you have no idea what happened behind closed doors. Or...for instance, I have a good friend who got re-married after her husband was killed in Iraq. Technically, it was her second marriage, but it wasn't by choice that her first ended.
I'm an encore bride and I don't expect gifts (and I didn't expect them in my previous wedding either). But I do think that it's pretty judgmental of you not to value the second marriage as much as the first. In my situation, my first marriage was a short-lived mistake and I deeply regret it. Now I've found the love of my life and it's a completely different situation from previously. I would feel heartbroken if someone felt the way you did--oh, I'll come to your wedding and party and celebrate, but I don't feel it's worth a gift. If you feel that way then you shouldn't attend, IMO.
@littlelucygoose: I'm confused. Do you mean a 2nd wedding, as in one (or both) are divorced and are marrying again OR that the couple has been married and are now exchanging vows again and are throwing a big party?
If it's the first example, I would give again if I wanted to. I would assume that I would want to because I cared enough about the person/peopel and was involved in their life/lives through both marriages.
If it's a vow renewal, I would probably bring something that was the equal to a housewarming or dinner party gift- something to thank them for their hospitality but not as big as wedding present.
Yeah, I'm a little offended- and we're not even registering for various reasons, we'll be doing a donation. Gifts for 3rd and 4th weddings? Maybe not, but a 2nd? Don't be judgy. This will be my second wedding, and a few *very,very* close friends will be invited to this one that were also at the last one. If I felt like they thought this wedding wasn't as "legit," or whatever as the last one, they wouldn't be coming. What about people who have multiple baby showers for multiple kids? Or people who have a birthday party every year- you know, the kind they invite you to because they really enjoy your presence, not your presents?
Also- did you think about the fact that the bride (or groom) is PAYING for your food and booze for a second time, too? IMO, if you feel like this marriage doesn't deserve the same recognition you gave the last, you should politely decline the invitation.
I truly hope your first husband is your only, and that everything works out perfectly. Just keep in mind that everyone isn't so lucky.
I'll stop before I make this conversation unproductive.
I'd be more likely to give cash, but I usually give cash at any wedding. I think it's rude to not at least bring a card, second marriage or not.
I've not yet been in this situation so I suspect I'll respond individually based on the people involved, but I'll be honest, I'd be tempted to give a smaller gift than the first time around if it's a second time wedding for my friend where I attended the first wedding. (It does suck if the other partner is a non-first time wedding, but then again, my friend presumably still has the gift I gave him/her time one.)
To all of those who say to give a less traditional gift or cash, do you do that for older brides as well? We're in our 30s and we had a tough time putting together a registry because we already had a lot of the traditional items. (It was particularly tough on the smaller gadget sized items, we really didn't need more spatulas or such.)
You don’t go to a wedding without a gift, regardless of what number the bride or groom is on. Second marriages are all too common now a days. I don’t think the couple should be faulted because it didn’t work out for one (or both) of them the first time around. I don’t know about anyone else but the weddings that I’m invited to are those of close family and friends. I don’t get random sympathy invites because I somehow ended up on someone’s “don’t want to invite but I have to” list. When it comes to a close friend or family member, it really wouldn’t matter what number they’re on. They’ll still receive a generous gift either way.
@Over the Moon: I can see why you would feel hurt by this and I haven't attended a 2nd wedding yet so my opinion may change. But I think if you re-read your statement, you DO expect gifts. If I showed up to yours without one (without reading this bold opinion of mine), you would be upset. That to me sounds like an expectation.
@les105: Good answer. Seems like non-traditional gifts would make more sense anyway..
@ArwenBride: What I meant was a couple that each had been previously married, divorced, and are remarrying again. Not a vow renewal.
I DO feel like there are obvious exceptions..being widowed, for example.
@littlelucygoose - it's not the gifts or no gifts thing. It's rude that you're implying that because this is a second wedding, it doesn't deserve as much attention as the first. If you're not a gift-gver, fine. But if you would normally give a gift and wouldn't do so specifically because it's a second wedding, you're implying that you don't support it as much. Or something.
I suspect you're not going to get much support on this post.
@littlelucygoose: For me it's a hypothetical because I'm eloping. But I'm not focused on the gift itself, but the sentiment behind your decision not to give one. If I did host a wedding and someone didn't bring/send a gift I wouldn't be bothered at all. If I found out somehow that the person would have given a gift but for the fact that it was a second marriage? I would be hurt by the implication of that. That's what I'm saying.
ETA: I'm not eloping because I'm an encore, BTW. We're eloping because that's what my fiance wants, we're both very private people and it's perfect for us. Our friends and family have actually been somewhat disappointed that we aren't hosting a wedding, but they support us.
If they registered, I'd get them something off of there as I assume that's something they need. Otherwise, they get money. I wouldn't give less or nothing at all, though. I'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but the way you wrote the post makes it come across as punishing them for getting married a second time. If you feel they're getting married over and over just for the gifts, then I'd say just don't attend.
I can see both sides of the coin. For a second marriage, I'd be willing to do the same as a first, depending on the circumstances. (ex. If this is a second marriage for both and they are much older, then they are more likely to be in a better place than two younger people just starting out.) Mistakes happen, people change in unexpected ways, etc. I get that and understand.
However, once someone starts getting into the third and above marriages, I'd likely cut down the gift significantly and simply not attend. I get that mistakes happen, but at some point, it becomes a bit silly in my opinion. I say this as someone with two parents who had multiple marriages. Even at age 7, when my mom was getting married for the fourth time, I really didn't see a point in it. Fortunately, after the last divorce, she hasn't either. It's not that I don't wish her well in terms of relationships, but she has been able to focus more on herself, her family, and the grandkids by getting out of the multiple marriage cycle, so it's a good thing.
I realize that some may see it as me somehow "punishing" encore brides for my parents' mistakes, but I just don't want to be involved in that kind of drama at that point. I'm also very lucky that no one I'm close to has entered that cycle or shows any inclination to do so, so I admit that I have the luxury of feeling this way without actually having to balance those feelings against an important relationship.
IF the reason your not buying a gift is because this is the couples second wedding, than that's just RUDE! Wedding's are not FREE. They are paying per plate for you to come and have a good time and you won't get them a gift all because it's their 2nd wedding? Come on, that's ridiculous.
@bells219: "IMO, if you feel like this marriage doesn't deserve the same recognition you gave the last, you should politely decline the invitation." - I agree. I've only been married once and I hope it stays that way but if things didn't work out and I were to find love again, I would expect the same recognition that I recieved for my first wedding. If someone was unsupportive to the point where they had to actually think about giving a gift, I wouldn't want them there anyway.
@kay01: I would give an older bride a less traditional gift if the couple is established. Basically, I try to give what I feel is useful/appreciated & also a good use of my money. Generally, when I'm invited to a wedding, I know the couple's situation. If I know they have a nice set up & they have a small registry, or no registry, I'll assume they'd rather some cash or a nice dinner out than towels.
@bells219: No, I didn't expect a lot of agreement but whoa, looks like I will be bringing something to a 2nd wedding in the future (..maybe). And depending on the situation, yes, I probably would feel less supportive the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th time around. I have a hard time believing that I would be the only one with a doubtful thought about the couple in that situation..I mean, people already have their suspicions about FIRST-time couples getting married!
Of course I'd give a gift....what, should they not feed me dinner because I already ate the last one they gave me, ten years ago?
@Over the Moon: I agree with this. I would be hurt if I was on a second marriage & knew my friend felt this way. It's about the intentions, not the actual gift/no gift. If I'm invited to a wedding, I usually care enough about the bride and/or groom that I wouldn't really have a tendancy to have thoughts about whether or not they "deserve" a gift from me.
@littlelucygoose: Simply attending a wedding is showing your support for their union. If you have suspicions or don't support the union, then you shouldn't be attending the wedding at all, let alone worrying about a gift.
@littlelucygoose: It really doesn't have anything to do with the actual gift, moreso your lack of empathy for encore brides. I'm not one myself, but I don't blame those who are for being PO'ed by your post. I didn't care if I got gifts for my wedding but I did expect every person who was in attendance to respect my marriage. The fact that you don't recognize encore marriages as being just as important as the first is a bit unsettling to those who are in those positions.
@UpstateCait: I guess I'm confused as to why people have a 2nd wedding. Why not elope? Why not have a backyard party? Why go through the whole 10 yards and then pout when people, like me, balk?
Basically, what I'm saying is that I'm cheap.
@littlelucygoose: Then you might as well ask, why have a wedding at all, even the first time?? To celebrate with people you love! Why celebrate birthdays over and over? Why give gifts to people on birthdays every year? Because you love them!
Well, I'm gonna come out and honestly say this is my third marriage. I am only 31 years old and been through two previous awful situations. Bad things happen to everyone. However, this is my FI's first marriage, and because of that, and the fact that he comes from a large italian family, we're having a full wedding. It's HIS wedding/marriage too, not just mine.
On one hand, I don't EXPECT a gift, but at the same time, we ARE paying $150 a head. Weddings are not cheap. It may not be the bride (or the groom's) first wedding, but it might be the other spouses. It's the MARRIAGE you're celebrating and "gifting", not one person in the union.
In my opinion, I wouldn't show up if I didn't support them enough to give them a gift. It doesn't have to be something off of the registry.
I would be going to the wedding to celebrate the union of those two specific people. If it is their first wedding together, I would gift the same whether or not they have been previously maried.
@littlelucygoose: I think what you're saying is that you're really judgmental. What people are telling you is that for many brides, the second marriage is more important/significant than the first. Certainly, at least as important. So why wouldn't a couple want to have their families and friends there to celebrate and share in their love and joy?
It sounds to me like you just have a hangup against divorce/remarriage. You feel it should be done quietly or in secret. There is definitely still a bit of a stigma against it in society. If you feel that way then that's legitimate, it's how you feel, but in that case don't go to the wedding.
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