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Okay, so some of you may remember my post under the Why Don't People Understand No Kids?!?! that we had gotten a response card back with a kid's name on it, even though the invitation was addressed only to the parents. My fiance asked his mom to tell her that unfortunately, the son would not be allowed to come. That was a month ago. Now, two weeks from the wedding, we find out MIL says she just can't tell her sister that. Sooo...we have written her a nicely worded letter explaining the situtation and have offered to help her find a babysitter in this area if she needs that.
Last night, my fiance mentioned that there is a small chance she may bring the kid anyway. I guess she is kind of one for pushing boundries, and has done so at family occasions in the past.
Have any of you guys had people show up with kids at a no-kids wedding, even after the person was specifically asked not to bring the kid? What do you do/say? I don't want to cause a scene at my own wedding, but I don't really want to pretend as if they did nothing wrong either. And I don't want other people to think we allowed her to bring her son, but didn't allow the to bring their kid(s). Oh, and the receiving line...how awkward would that be???
*Sigh* I guess I just hope she leaves the kid at home or calls us to take us up on the offer of helping her find a babysitter.
I would personally call this guest and ask point blank if she intends on bringing her child. You have already gone above and beyond by offering to find a babysitter. Make it clear that your venue will not accommodate a child.
This is YOUR wedding and I find her behavior beyond rude and tacky. I feel bad that you have this unneccessary stress so close to your wedding. Good luck!
If the question is over what to do now, with your wedding coming up, speak with her and figure out why it's so important that she bring the child. And explain that this is a rule you're enforcing across the board. Do whatever you can to enforce it, within reason.
If the kid shows up anyway, it's up to the parents to worry about what to do. If other guests mention anything -- and I'd guess that most won't say anything -- just tell them it was unexpected and you appreciate them making other arrangements for their children.
I would call her and pretend you're just following up to see if she received the letter. I would just say that unfortunately due to space limitations no one is going to be able to bring their children. I would just say it very nicely and really build it up that there isn't any room and that no one else is bringing their kids. Really make it sound like there won't even be a seat for him! You can bring up your offer to help them find a sitter again, maybe this way you can get her to tell you that she will not bring her child. Otherwise, she may just pretend she didn't get a letter and show up with him anyways. I hate confronting people on things like this, but I think it's going to be your best course of action.
I agree...you should personally call her and let her know that while you would have liked to invite children your budget/venue cannot accomodate them. And add in there that you appreciate her understanding this :)
Agree with the posters above. Call and see. She can always ignore the letter.
IF it happens anyways, well, certainly do not go out of your way to appease her. Just watch her struggle with trying to find an extra chair for the kid AND trying to get him dinner. Or rather now they have to split dinner because you didn't pay for food. And will not ![]()
You could always call and say, "hey i wasn't sure if you needed some recommendations, but here are a few babysitters' numbers..." blah blah blah.
Sorry she's such a crazy lady about it! I wish ppl were more understanding!
We have a similar situation. FI's uncle is bringing his kid. We are having a no kid wedding, mostly because only 2 people on our guest list have kids and we don't know them well or at all. FI has never met his 8 year old cousin because his family is not close. He asked FMIL to talk to her brother about it, but that didn't go very well. She isn't much for wedding ettiquite or tradition. (At one point she questioned why we needed a photographer). Since they will be coming from Oregon we figured we will let it go. Although I'm a bit concerned because my family and our friends are party people and FI's family is very very quiet, so they could feel uncomfortable with the child being there.
It just frustrates me though how uncooperative FMIL was, like yours was Miss Apricot.
Also, wouldn't it be awkward and/or unfun to be the only child at a wedding?
i got married this past weekend. YAY!!!
Hate to be the downer but people I specifically told they were not invited showed up. People I directly asked not to bring their children showed up, with children. be prepared...some people just lack common grace...
I agree with calling her in person. We had a similar situation and we just explained that everyone else with children had made other accomodations and that it would be incredibly rude to our other guests if there was an exception made after they had gone through the trouble of making other arrangements. There really shouldn't be an issue as long as you provide plenty of alternatives for her...and if she balks, than you can call her out that it doesn't seem to be that she can't find other arrangements, but rather that she isn't being considerate and perhaps you can work out a solution together to help her from feeling the way she feels.
Good luck.
Okay, so I will call, (or make my fiance call, since it's HIS aunt, lol) on Monday if I haven't heard from her. That way I know she will have had enough time to have gotten the letter.
So, FutureMrsMorgan, did you do a receiving line, and if so, what do you say when the univited guests and/or uninvited children came through it? Did you just smile graciously and thank them for coming while biting your tongue till it bled?
EJS4Y8, she probably won't have trouble FEEDING the kid, since it's a buffet, but she MIGHT have trouble finding a spot to sit with him, because we are having place cards.
Corn, I did mention in my letter that we weren't trying to exclude only her son, but that other family members and friends wouldn't be bringing their children either. I will be sure that's mentioned in the phone call if needed too. Fiance has a big family, and while my family doesn't have much in the way of kids many of our family friends do. Part of the reason we decided not to invite kids is because our guest list would have quickly gotten out of our control (and budget!) if kids were included.
I really appreciate everyone's advice/best wishes for this all to work out. My fiance has even said, "If she gets mad and disowns us, who cares?" I can't say that I've ever even MET the woman and we've been together five years. The Mr. said he doesn't think he's seen her since the Christmas before we started dating.
Let your MIL deal with it if it happens. I think the phone calls beforehand other's have suggested are a good idea, but just don't worry about it if it happens. If they're struggling to find a place, refer her to FMIL. She's the one who didn't have the guts to call her sister, she's the one who can deal witht he fall out.
I have been worrying about this issue since we first got engaged because I definitely did not want children at the wedding. Our problem was that everyone we know has children and etiquette makes it pretty clear that it you invite some you have to invite all. I ended up sending a note in the save-the-dates stating that, with the exception of the children in the bridal party, we would not be able to accomodate any other children. We also have this up on our website. We wanted to give people as much time in advance to make alternative arrangements. I knew that simply not including the kids on the invite would not work. All of that being said, there is always the possibility that someone will still show up with child and we'll just have to deal with it.
If I were you, I would call the aunt directly and be up front with her. Say that while you understand that she would like to bring her child, you simply cannot accomodate him.
@FutureMrsMorgan - First of all, congratulations! :) What did you do when uninvited guests and children came? I know this is going to be an issue at our wedding-Acquaintances of FI's have done it at other weddings and I'm sure ours won't be immune.
And Miss Apricot, I think you're doing the best thing you can. And if he does come anyway, make sure your close fam and BP know what's up, so if people come to them offended that the kid is there and their's isn't, they can make it clear that this was not on purpose! Good luck.
aw too bad. I was thinking maybe a plated dinner could be your scapegoat. There's just no room, simple as that.
people irritate me! what part of NO don't people get?! Eesh
Ugg, sorry. I actually didn't have kids at my wedding, and ran into no problems with people. I guess it's customary in my circles....
I like the idea of following up too. Since you already sent a letter, I would have your Fi call her as a courtsey/conern that she was ableto find a sitter. And if not, that you'd be willling to help track one down. Is hse the only one with kid issues? If not, would you be willing to hire an on site babysitter? Also, I think it would best be handled by Fi's mom. I'm sorry she doesn't feel comfortable talking to her sister... but how comfortable is it for you two?
If she does end up bringing her child, you can do one of two things. Not say anything, or make a stink (insist she come back after she finds someone to watch her son, just kick her out, etc.) Honestly, I don't think the answer would be to make a scene with her. (You probably think that too, even though you're thoroughly frustrated.) It's not worth causing family problems. It's possible, if she has usually gotten along with the family, that you'll take most of the heat if there is a problem. Also, her son will be witnessing some of this, and it might make him feel bad (if he's old enough to understand). I can still remember an event (not wedding) in which my parents were invited but not the kids. My parents took us, not understanding we weren't invited. The hostess basically told my parents the invitation didn't include us, but let us stay. I heard the whole thing. As a kid (maybe 9 years old), I felt pretty uncomfortable being there, knowing that I wasn't invited. I think too, as a kid, I took it too hard. Like they didn't want us there because they didn't like us, not because they just weren't having kids.
It seems like your fiance's aunt is just trying to play games with you. Probably you should just let her do what she wants. You don't really want to get into a fight with someone at your wedding reception, right?
I have kids in my party, my nephews and neices alone are 5 kids, then two other couples have kids at one has one kid the other has two so I just added them all together; if they cry I am going to instruct the parents to bring them out (They're my sis's kids and bro's kids who are youngest, so I can be blunt)
so for those of you who aren't having kids at the wedding, i'm assuming you don't have kids of your own?
I agree with taking measures to try your best to make sure it doesn't happen, but if it does, I vote for ignoring it. Chances are she'll ultimately be the only one to suffer and it will not be your responsibility day of to make sure she's accommodated for-I could not imagine her approaching you during to ask about anything for her child, but even if she did, you could direct her to your mother in law for help :)
If after all you have gone through to accommodate this woman she STILL brings her child with her, I would just be the bigger person and graciously act like nothing is wrong. It's your day, and to let it be ruined by her doing that, would put a blemish on your day! If any other guests ask about it, which I really doubt they will, you can simply say thanks for following your wishes, it appears that the aunt was not able to go along with them, or something like that.
@HouseofJ Nope, we don't have kids. As much as I would LOVE to be able to accommodate children at our wedding, it was more of a budget thing. We just don't have room in the budget for everyone's kids. I love kids, but it just came down to the fact that we are friends with the kids parents, not them. In a perfect world, with a bigger budget, we would have invited them in a heartbeat.
Ha ha...make him a Revenge Favor Bag! Include a can of Coke (or that Jolt cola if you can find it!) a bunch of Pixie stix (pure sugar!) a really loud toy like a whistle and something really messy like finger paint. At the end of the night, give it to him as his favor as he walks out the door...
I am turning into a horrible, horrible person. On a serious note, I guess you respond the same way as you do when any unexpected guest turns up (I'm told this is inevitable.) Look the other way and don't let it ruin your day! As noted above, ultimately it's his mom that's depriving herself of a night out.
@Rose999...hehehe. I love it.
I really hope that none of the parents at my wedding bring their children. I'll feel bad for the children, who will be pretty hungry and tired of standing around, with no food or chairs for them. I'm starting to plan how my invitations will be worded, and I'm preparing for the backlash from FI's many crazy aunts!
I agree that in this situation, it's best to call.
Just as an udate, the aunt didn't bring her son. Or herself, for that matter. Mr. Apricot wasn't hurt by her absence; they are far from close.
HouseofJ: No, we do not have kids of our own. Our reasons for excluding children were many. One being that this was my special day and I didn't want it ruined by screaming/misbehaving kids. Another was that we know a LOT of kids since my mom does daycare and I help out sometimes. We couldn't pick and choose what who to invite from the group, and we couldn't afford to invite them all. So we chose to invite none, with the exception of the flower girl and ring bearer. We then had an "open house" type reception for the daycare families who cared to come. It's not that I don't like kids; I LOVE them. But like I said, I didn't want my day taken over by them. I've read the horror stories! :)
I'm with kourtann. Call her up and pretend you're making sure she got the letter. Make it clear that your wedding is completely child-free, and that there will not be food, etc. for her kid.
People are rude! This is my nightmare scenario, and I have a sinking feeling a particular couple are going to do this. If people bring children unexpectedly, and you have assigned seating, what do you do about seating them?
just let them stand or sit on the flr or ask them all to leave and do not return the gift... wtev
The only kids we are having are the ones in the family (that we have to invite) and the two in the bridal party. I'm hoping that most others will decide to have a nice night out WITHOUT the kids. For goodness sake, I don't see why people can't hire a baby-sitter for ONE night! You are being nice to help with babysitters, but I agree with everyone else... don't make a seat available for the kid. Good luck with the phone call!
Miss Apricot,
We are in the same situation, and our wedding is less than a month away now. My fiance's mom can't bear to tell her nephew that his 2 month old baby can't come to our ADULT ONLY reception, which I tastefully did end up printing on the RSVP card. So my fiance called him and explained the issue, which he totally understood - they would find a babysitter. Since last month, my fiance's mom has repeatedly stated that she is not attending our ceremony/reception so she can stay home and babysit (we already found a sitter!!). I really feel bad for my fiance, but our decision was final with no children at the wedding back in January, and now she is begging for an exception. I understand they are using my wedding to basically have a family reunion and now it seems like a baby shower, or to show off their new baby. Any advice? Do i print her name in the program? What do I tell the DJ who is announcing the party, etc?
Well phewf, Miss Apricot-- you dodged a bullet!
As for wedding guests just showing up, apparently it's very common! My best friend just got married this spring & she had 7 people show up who weren't invited. They were friends from church & university. Instead of asking them to leave, she was a gracious host & asked her wedding planner set up another table. The extra additions cost her $75+ drinks each. Yeah. She's a saint.
It's rude & I will have someone ask wedding crashers to leave.
Our turned into a "no kids wedding" back when I realized there would only be 60 adults and more than 30 kids! At that point I didnt care how well behaved people thought their kids were, the numbers were just too many. Parents would be chasing children around all night, trying to keep them from pulling down table cloths, instead of watching our slideshow, listening to speeches, or just plain having fun on the dance floor. I felt bad doing it, but again, just had to.
Ugh this would be so frustrating. I'm so glad it worked out for you Miss Apricot! I will definitely be having a kids-free wedding (I know people never ever want to say it... but I"m sorry. I'm not a kid person). Luckily, the only people I'll be inviting who have kids are family members and they all know my feelings (it is kind of a family joke). I plan to get a babysitter or two to watch any kids the parents can't find sitters for.
cidesign, not trying to be spicy, and I totally understand the no kids thing because we're doing it too, but you do know how hard it is to leave a 2 month old with a sitter? Even with our no kids policy, we were totally making exceptions for people with infants - they need to eat every few hours so even if you got a sitter it would be really tough. You have to do what you have to do, and I truly believe that every situation is unique so I'm not judging at all, I just wasn't sure if you had lots of friends with kids, or nieces and nephews and were aware of how tough this request could be for new parents. In all honesty, a baby will make no difference on your day - if you tell the parents that you'd appreciate them taking the baby outside if there's crying, that should take care of it!
Actually, Miss Movie, I (respectfully) beg to differ about not noticing a baby! :) Babies make noise. They cry. A lot, (especially if they're a colic-y baby like I was!). It's pretty much the only way the can communicate, and it's understandable, but NOT something I wanted to hear on my wedding day. I have taken care of kids for years. My flower girl and ring bearer I have taken care of since they were a few weeks old. It's really not that hard to find a family member or friend or other qualified babysitter to take care of a baby, even a newborn, for a night.
Cidesign: Is MIL still threatening to stay home to babysit? I think it's TERRIBLE that she would do such a thing on her SON'S wedding day, especially since they already found a different sitter.
Thankfully, I have a hotel room literally next door to the event venue so parents can nip by and check on their kids. But I too am having a no kid wedding. So far so good but we shall see. People become so sticky about their kids.
we had no babies. no kids. except our nephew. and it was AAAMAZING.
@cidesign, I hope your FI's mother stops laying the guilt trip on you. She's using it as a bargainng tool to get her way! Boo
My mom was the kind that worked all the time, and she would always bring us kids with, even if it was just adults. As her kid, I was ignorant of it, and thankfully no one ever said anything in front of me not being welcome at any event. I think my mom just felt that she wanted to spend as much time with us as she could.
Recently I went to a wedding where there were uninvited kids under the age of 5 or 6, and one of them threw up all over his dad DURING the ceremony. I was a few rows up and heard it, but didn't see what happened. Luckily, it didn't look like the wedding party noticed.
As someone thinking about my own wedding, it would be a very hard decision not to invite kids, and if someone brought them anyway, it would hurt, because I'd be excluding kids I want and some might show up anyways? Glad to hear it turned out allright for you!
oh thats funny jmc, I smiled,imagining a 2 year old washing dishes
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