Post # 1
I was just talking to my BF and he dropped it that he doesn’t think it’s “right” to lie to our future kids about the existence of Santa, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy. He’s non-American so I see his point–all this must sound really wacky to someone without the cultural context. But I feel sad thinking of our kids having no part of these traditions. Plus, the logistics of keeping them from spilling the news that there is no Santa to the other kids at school. We could become a very disliked family over this!
Has anyone else had to negotiate this in their relationship? Or has raised children in the US without Santa/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy?
Post # 3
I cannot imagine my childhood without santa, easter bunny or the tooth fairy!
Post # 4
@Nic01: So they have all these things in Australia too?
Post # 5
@worldtraveler: I was not raised Jewish, but I am Jewish now. My kids won’t have Santa or the Easter Bunny due to religious beliefs. I am sure they will be just fine. My husband was raised without them as are thousands of Jewish children in the U.S. every year. We will do the tooth fairy.
Post # 6
@worldtraveler: They have those things or something similar in lot’s of different parts of the world – there are many different forms of Santa for example, all with slightly different traditions.
Post # 7
@Nic01: ?! How do Australians have Santa Claus? I think it’s cool that you do, but the whole cold/snow/winter aspect of the mythology is so central here in the states. Does he drive a stagecoach or something?
Also, do you have the same songs we do here (White Christmas, Jingle Bells, Let It Snow, etc)? is that weird when you have Christmas in early Summer? Or are there different songs?
I am not picking on you or being nosy (and I apologize for threadjacing)–but a friend and I actually had this conversation the other day and both started wondering what Christmas in Australia would be like. I told her I was pretty sure that Santa was principally a North American/Western European tradition.
Post # 8
I remember wising my tooth would fall out dad & i would sit there waiting patiently, just waiting, lol then finding a coin beneath my pillow the next morning & taking it to show & tell.
I remember one xmas after a family holiday walking into my room to find a bike!1 a brand new bike with a basket & streamers – there was no way my parents bought that for me – we went away together it was Santa!!
I make a big deal out of it, i guess some people don’t –
But i wouldn’t worry about it yet, it would be interesting to see hwo your bf feels about it when you get to that stage & aftre he’s had the chance to interact with other kids in similar scenarios.
Post # 9
i think the most importnat one is santa. its harmless, i think saying its lying to kids is a little bit extreme! easter bunny was never a big deal in my house so i dont mind skipping that
so ill definitely keep santa. here in mexico they dont have a tooth fairy but rather a tooth rat/mouse apparently which im a bit bemused with but ill go with it
i dont know how to convince him, but i agree id be sad if i didnt have them
Post # 10
My cousins were raised without anything like that, they weren’t allowed to watch most cartoons either because the animals could talk Ie-looney toons, etc, and that was “magic” and magic was wrong. Really.
I grew up with everything, I loved it. I still love it. I’ll let my kids enjoy it as long as they can, we all end up knowing the world isn’t quite as magical as we thought but it’s nice to enjoy that stuff when the kids are little.
Post # 11
@worldtraveler: Well my parents did not do the whole Santa thing and Easter Bunny for religious reasons. So as a small child I was thought that the gifts were given from mom and dad in honor of (insert your religious or otherwise reason). I was also taught that other parents decide to use the “tale” of Santa and it was not my job to teach their kids otherwise. I use to tell other kids who asked me if I thought there was a Santa that “I didn’t know”. It was the best way for me to deal with it as a child and my parents told me to say that before I went to school.
Now, my parents did do the tooth fairy thing since it was not associated with a religious holiday. I rather just give my kid a buck and tell them to to trash the tooth. Personally I’m against lying to our kids like that but DH likes Santa so we are going to have to find a compromise.
Post # 12
@worldtraveler: I grew up like that. I do not and did not in anyway feel cheated. I heard about those things at school. My mom filled in the blanks for me but she also told me they were not real. I appreciate/d the honesty.
Post # 13
Oh come on it’s not a lie! It’s part of the imaginative magic of holiday’s!!
Post # 14
@EffieTrinket: It’s kind of a mix. Santa wears a red coat, and some houses and stores are decorated with a snow theme. But Santa still comes in summer here. It’s common to have an outdoor Christmas function in a park, and for Santa to come with gifts for the kids, dress in his (way too warm) red coat. I remember at least one event where poor old Santa fainted due to the heat.
One advantage of summer is lots of outdoor Christmas carols (and outdoor Christmas events in general, e.g. work or social parties).
Post # 15
@EffieTrinket: LOL – yes, we have Santa (im sure that there are cases where families / religions / schools don’t) it’s getting a bit silly nowaday with decorations being put up in november!
Every shopping centre has a “santa” so kids & take pics with them – & boy does that line get long!
Santa looks the same, with the long pants & beard. In more ‘humorous’ twists, sometimes Santa turns up in shorts, or holding a surfboard (Xmas Day at Bondi Beach is a site to be seen!)
And the songs, still the same. Its not ‘weird’ that Xmas is in summer. (Alhough i can see why it could be to some 😉
I’m european & my mother wishes that she could have a white xmas & when i have been in europe for xmas, i have to admit that it is pretty special. But i did miss going down to the beach
(side note – Australia is a relatively ‘new’ country, claimed by the british 200 years ago – so think about it, our traditions have to come from somehwere!)
Post # 16
Does he drive a stagecoach or something?