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Non-diamond center stone? CZ or moissanite?

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    mmmtacos      

    Hi Bees!

    This weekend I went to look at rings, and I found the size is not within our price range (or any range since I would be uncomfortable spending that amoutnof money).  I did fall in love with a 3 carat round cut, it was only $20,000 (ONLY) and you could see the inclusions.

    I've been thinking a lot about it lately.  I would love to have a blinged out setting (4 or 5 stone), but I think I'm going to ask Mr. Tacos to go with a CZ or another diamond substitute center stone.  I was curious who else out there might have that?

    I think I'd keep it a secret if we were to do that...

    Thoughts?

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    I wouldn't do CZ because I've had some really nice CZ stones (at first) that eventually get cloudy.

    I hear that moissanites above 2 carats tend to look greenish, too. BUT, I have 1 carat moissanite studs in my ears and everyone thinks they're diamonds. They look pretty freakin' good and for earrings, it's nice not to worry about losing them! Plus I only paid, oh, $180 for them =].

    I did have a jeweler tell me that a lot of people lately (recession I guess?) have been going with white sapphires flanked with a halo of round white diamonds to make it look more diamond-like.

    I dunno, I mean, if you're going with a 3 carat center stone, do you think people might ask you if it's real? At my age (mid-20's), I know nobody I know would believe I had a real stone that cost that much (downpayment on a house maybe? lol. I get asked if my 1 carat center is real) but if i was older, then I highly doubt anyone would even ask. Just something to think about--whether or not you're comfortable constantly lying or if it's something that you feasbly could afford to the point nobody'll ask. But if you're a student, well, probably not, lol.

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    I kinda agree with EJS... if I knew you and how old you were and that your FI was not independently wealthy or the son of a rockefeller, I would assume a 3ct stone was not real. If you're going for "impressively big but plausibly real" I'd stick with 1.5-2ct. :)

     
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    LilMisPriss    August 8, 2009  

    I personally think that I would be uncomfortable with having a fake ring.  There are some clear stones that I've seen gals having on here that are very unique and pretty, but they aren't trying to pass them off as real diamonds. And I agree with the gals above- people are going to ask if its real, especially if they know there's no way you could afford it in the first place.

    I think that you should purchase something that you can afford that you can be proud of- as much as everyone likes the bling, if you can't afford it find something you can that you're proud of.  In the end it's about being with him, so don't stress it. 

     

     
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    Thank you for sharing your opinions!  I was actually thinking more along the lines of 2 carats or so for a center, perhaps a little under that.  I'll have to throw the idea around and see how he feels. 

     

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    You could alsays get something around 1.5 and have a little halo of daimonds. Then it's still very blingy but also more affordable than a bigger solitaire. If you have a taste for bling, there are lots of ways to get your fix without necessarily spending more than your FI can comfortably afford. You can totally make it work--you can always go with a bigger setting or the halos or a flatter cut. I'd be leery of going down in color, like K's or something....they just don't look very white IMO. But, if you have it set in yellow gold (I know you're some kind of middle eastern, right? I know yellow gold seems to be more popular amongst my middle eastern friends...I'm sorry if that sounds really ignorant! I remember you posting about lendhis or something...) then you can essentially get away with a more yellow diamond without it constrasting sharply without white gold

     
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    kjpugs    March 20, 2010   Indianapolis, IN

    I agree about halos, my .9 carat looks much bigger because of the halo (which people have asked me - assuming it was over a carat for the center stone.) Perhaps the white sapphire idea would be good? And also try to find a place that will allow you to get full price back for trade ins, so you could save and eventually upgrade to a real diamond if you want. With our jeweler, we get EXACTLY what we paid back for our diamond if we are upgrading our stone, so we're not losing $$.

     
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    Minutiae    May 2011  

    Have you thought about getting a lab-created diamond? They're pretty much identical to "real" diamonds, and you can get a high quality, sizeable stone for incredibly cheap.

     
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    I haven't!  But that's a fantastic idea!

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    i echo the sentiment of the other girls here, one im not one for wanting a fake diamond that big, because everyone would assume its fake, and i dont think im comfortable with people thinking my ring is fake (whether or not they tell me ot my face- which they probably wont)

    stick with what you can afford - there are cuts and different stones that offer the "bling" that you are looking for. also have you thought of non-diamond center stone for your engagement ring? gives it much more of an heirloom feel and is quite beautiful.

    but if your heart is set on a diamond, i would shoot for 1-1.5 carat ring with lots of sidestones.

    my ring is 1.16 center stone, with 4 side stones and then six little round ones going down the side, and we got a good deal on it and it was still well over 10K. so get what you can afford but i would stick with what is real.

     
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    iggies    March 2011  

    i have a white sapphire stone and it's totally clear. it's actually quite amazing how beautiful it is and how much it looks like a diamond. most people don't even see the difference in person. the nice thing about the sapphire is that it's a hardness of 9 on the mohs scale (diamond is obviously 10). i liked that it was definitely an every day wear kind of stone. i also love that i could get a 1 ct stone without the cost of a diamond!

    eta. i'm sorry, i just read on this post how people are obviously judging based on the fact that it's a "fake diamond". who cares if it's not a diamond if you love your ring? why does an engagement ring HAVE to be a diamond?? i went with a white sapphire obviously because of cost (my fiance and i are both students and we would MUCH rather have a house than something that sits on my finger and does nothing). i couldn't make up my mind on a colored stone, so i decided to get a clear stone so that it would go with all my attire. we almost went with a moissanite, because it has a lot of flash. i don't tell people that it's a white sapphire in person, unless they say "WOW that's a huge ring!" i also can't believe that people sit around and think "that girl obviously does not have a diamond because her stone is 2+ cts. who does she think she is???" this post just made me really upset knowing that having a diamond is the be all end all of how much your fiance loves you and is willing to spend on you.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    @iggies, I think the big issue is not having a diamond but lying about it...like if she kept it a secret.

    I'm all for non-diamond stones, but I'm not okay with people not having one and going "oh yeah it's a diamond!" and faking it....cuz that's just not cool. And if you WANT to fake everyone out with it, if you get it so big, everyone thinks you're a liar and I don't think anybody likes that kind of talk going on about them.

    I don't think "fake" is the same as a pretty white sapphire, either! "fake" i think of specifically diamond imitations that are MADE to imitate a diamond.

    I don't think anybody meant any harm towards someone who doesn't neceessarily have a diamond.

     
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    Miss Yap    02/20/10   Dallas

    I have a friend who has a moissante. She loves it especially the affordable part. She just refers to it as her "rock". No lying involved.

     

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