well the rule behind the E ring is that ... if you didnt marry he gets the ring back... if you have married you get to keep the ring
Maybe she doesnt have it maybe she pawned it ... gold is going for a pretty penny right now lol
Legally, it just depends what state you're in. For some states, it's considered a gift at proposal, so if you call of the engagement, she can keep it. In others, it's a condition on a promise to get married, so if you don't get married, he gets the ring back. It seems like your husband probably did some research about getting a lawyer, so hopefully you're in one of the states that will let him get it back! (Glad to see that my legal education can come in handy! haha)
Socially though, I think that if you don't get married then you should give the ring back. I feel like that's proper.
i kept the ring from my son's dad. he and i agreed that it would be passed on to my son's fiance as her something blue (blue emerald cut sapphire). it is at my mom's house in her jewelry box.
with my other ex, i gave him the ring back and haven't thought twice about it!! i didn't want that bad karma lol
She's a B! I can't stand her! Ridiculous! If she pawned it, it's gonna bite her. :) He's suing her in small claims court. For the ring or the exact amount he spent on it...AFTER interest. :) Ha. Can't wait to see the look on her face when she loses. She's gonna smell funny afterward. LOL.
Well, for one, it's in MN. In MN it is considered a conditional gift. Doesn't matter who breaks the engagement. She manipulated him into letter her keep it afterward, when she knew he was in no mental state to make that decision. Now she keeps holding it over his head. I told him if he didn't take care of it, she wouldn't like the way I took care of it. I think it's one thing if you have kids together, but she treated him like SHIT. Honestly. I can't wait for the karma to come back around on her!!
Lots of women keep the ring. I wouldn't want a ring from a broken engagement, but some do.
How did their engagement end? Was she cheating on him, or something? Sounds like there's a lot of animosity and drama-- must be, if he's been chasing after this ring for six years!
This is totally not legal, but I've heard that if he breaks it off, she keeps the ring to sell. If she breaks it off, it's proper to give it back.
KMSull, that's what I've always heard too - if she breaks it off, she gives it back, otherwise she can keep it if she pleases.
In some states, it does matter who breaks it off, but other states are no fault states. All laws regarding marriage are really state-specific so it's hard to let you know whether you're right or not.
Because she is a gold digging.....yea. He has a lot of crap that led up to them breaking up. He begged her to move to TX to be with him and she refused. Adamantly refused. he deployed, she was kissing her ex husband. In front of my mother in law!! ?! What is that about? and then she also told hubby that he "gave her cervical cancer and an STD" when he didn't have anything AND he had been in TX for 6 months and hadn't seen her. there is a lot more to it, but she should have just given the stupid ring back. She only kept it because it is a 1karat diamond and a status symbol for her greedy ass.
oh, he's right. we talked to the family lawyer in MN. He said we have a case. He said hubby is entitled to the ring. Can't wait for her to crap her pants. lol. awesome.
Some states it's also conditional in how he proposed. If it's done on Christmas, your birthday, or another traditional gift giving holiday like Valentines Day.... he can't ask for it back.
In MN, none of it applies. It is a conditional gift, condition being marriage. They didn't get married, she broke up with him...case closed. Now she keeps telling him she sold it. She just thinks he is going to forget about it and back down. LOL. Funny.
I dunno honestly i dont see why after 6 years he wants the ring back unless he is intending to give it to you. It is a 1 carat diamond ring why is it so important to anyone?
And just a note HPV is actually considered a sexually transmitted disease because more than 40 of the 100 strains are only transmitted sexually and alot of people have had or do have HPV but have no symptoms or problems at all & most peoples body will clear it naturally and it is actually not even a visible STD unless it developes into genital warts or it could develop into cervical cancer... so if you arent passed the age get your GARDASIL SHOTS LADIES
It is the pricipal of the matter at this point. I agree with him. I don't want the ring. For all I care he can throw the thing in a river. :)
Yes, HPV...I still think she was sleeping around on him. I won't get Gardasil because I have seen what it can do in rare instances. I do my research before I get vaccinated. Just like with the swine flu. Can't pay me to get that vaccine! Ain't happening! :)
I personally don't see why she wanted to keep it to begin with if she felt their relationship was "So horrible" and he supposedly treated her badly. his family hated her because she was a complete witch to him and constantly hitting on every guy around her.
I think her other actions while they were together is enough to say she was sleeping around. I don't think you should be kissing your ex-husband, especially not in front of someone you consider to be your FMIL. I'm just saying.
2 future mrs harless I am confused about your comment as to why someone would care about a 1 carot ring my ring is .92 carots and cost $8000 that seems something worth worrying about.
I guess If the quality is poor a 1 carot ring isn't worth much but if the ring is a high quality colour and clarity and cut a carot costs a lot.
Miss Lily,
I am assuming that you saw my previous post- I was not trying to say that she was not sleeping around just that the HPV does not necessarily prove that and it is a possibility that your SO gave it to her.
@simpleandchic- Thank you!! $8000 is a lot of money! for one,
and for another thing, there is no reason she should have kept the ring. They were engaged less than a year! They got engaged in May and ended up breaking up in November or December that same year. She broke it off, something to me seems fishy. also, I was wrong. she has had the ring for 4 years. Not 6. So even so...
@accorn-I just find it extremely hard to believe that with the kind of person she is that she wasn't sleeping around behind his back. I think people who sleep around on SOLDIERS are trash. I think they should be punished. I think that by law they shouldn't get anything in a divorce...unfortunately they do. Ridiculous. If she had an STD that hubby didn't test positive for (because after she told him, he DID get tested) kind of again hard to believe she was faithful...just saying.
I am just venting here about her idiocy. I can't stand her, I can't stand that she holds everything over his head all the time. When he wins the friggin ring back, it is going to be so worth it. It is going to spin her head so fast...
just FYI, currently there is no way to test HPV in men. So even if he got tested for STDs and the results came back all clean, he couls still very well have HPV.
As for the ring, I've always heard that whoever is the one "dumped" gets to keep the ring. I have 2 friends who both kept their engagement rings from broken engagements. The guy never asked for it back. Also, we're in California so they wouldn't get it back anyways as it's considered a gift.
And there is no evidence that gardasil is any more risky than any other vaccine. Please read this link for the facts.
The CDC covers a lot of stuff up. FYI. Kind of like the H1N1 vaccine. Sorry, just not enough time on the market for me to think it's a good idea.
Pretty muc everyone is positive for some type of HPV. I'm just saying. It's out there. How your body reacts to it is completely a different story.
As I said before, you don't know her character. I've met her. She deserves everything she gets. Karma is a nasty....
@Meowkers- I guess I just don't understand why you would WANT to keep a ring from someone who either a) broke up with you or b) you thought was a bad enough person to break up with...just doesn't add up in my eyes. You have the ring and it is a constant reminder of the guy...Seems bizarre to me
I always thought that if the girl ends it....she gives it back, but if he ends it - she keeps it. Maybe I'm wrong.
there again Soon2bee, SHE ended it...I don't understand why she wants to keep it, except that she is greedy.
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So, Hubby decided to have a backbone. :) Finally. He has been asking his ex fiance for the ring back...for 6 years. holy crap. 6 YEARS! and she refuses flat out to give it back. Should be a nice wake up call for her when she gets a subpoena for court. And even more of a surprise for her when he wins. Love it. Seriously, who keeps the ring? I mean really? Just curious...People really keep the friggin ring? Why? Who wants to look at that everyday?