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Wow... 25 minutes away isnt far at all, i drive forty five minutes to work everyday and 30 minutes to school every other day. You should DEFINATELY have a talk with this guy about his crazy two faced family. Im sorry your holidays werent awesome but hopefully next year they will get better
((HUGS)) but the visual of the mom with the sippy cup is OMG hilarious!!!! It sounds like he really loves you... And he may not have driven if he's drinking too much. Sometimes families are like that but they usually grow accustomed to the idea. I have dated guys whose families are like that (fuggin nuts if you ask me)... I think that they are accustomed ot their family circles and are a bit afraid of you taking their "baby"... trust me it usually gets a lot better!!
Thanks so much StudentBride... I do plan on at least telling him kind of what was going on.
And Cre.. yeah, he hasn't been drinking for two weeks straight though, so that kind of bugs me.. And with the sippy cup, she was def not driving, but it's sad that she had to finish that wine so bad (with nothing on her stomach)--she was tipsy as h*ll! He is the baby, so I guess that might be it... I just can't believe they'd do that on his birthday/Christmas Eve. Ugh, people.
((Hugs)) trust me it's amazing how different families are or what their customs are... definitely invite his mom and fam over for nye, heck everyone drinks then anyways :D... at least everyone would have something in common, you know?
Ugh, I'd invite them, but they are going to a party (but EXPECT FI to be home so they can spend time together on new years' day...what?!)
Yeah, crebre is right... customs are different in other families but like her i think its hilarious... sorry. I guess its a little difficult to get out of the house since he lives with his family but i think after he knows whats going on with you and his family he wont be so quick to please them, but i would be angry too!!!
Well, he doesn't exactly live with them... we live four hours away and came home. Unfortunately this is the first time they've ever shown me this side in FIVE YEARS of dating! I don't know what is wrong with these people... they are straight up crazy!
Sounds like my in-laws (mine are slightly more passive), but I can't relate on the significant other part. My husband always is by my side, and would never allow that to happen.
You should probably reconsider marrying this guy. He sounds pretty ignorant if he's allowing his family to treat you like a second class citizen. Seriously, do you want to deal with that crap for the rest of your life? Take it from me, it doesn't get better. I love my husband more than anything, but on bad days I'm left wondering whether or not it was a mistake, saying that feels as awful as it sounds. Worrying one day the in-laws will get the upper hand/he'll quit fighting the fight isn't pleasant Ok. So it's not really a fight- more like passive attempts to break us. The bitterness I have towards them doesn't make me feel good either. Today his mother called obviously irritated he wasn't attending their Christmas party and attempting to guilt him into changing his plans. When he refused she called back moments later with a whole new bright cheery attitude because she's slowly realizing he's catching onto her game. It's manipulative and I hate it. If your fiance isn't including you/allowing bad behavior to happen right under his nose- you deserve better. Good luck.
if he doesn't know what the problem is, perhaps you should definitely mention what happened at his birthday party. and how you felt today, since it is your last christmas together as an engaged couple... but i think that's a huge part of what's going on with the parents, this is their last christmas together with him as a single guy... some of the girls in waiting are actually going through it as well, you know?
That's so weird! Did anything happen for his family to feel this way?
That doesn't make any sense that your FI hasn't even come to see you. Me & my FI can't stand the really be APART from each other for just one day. I'm so sorry that you've got to deal with this! You should call his family out on it and SEE just why they're acting this way. I would!
And have you told your FI that this is UNacceptable?! Dang..so much to say, but it's hard to give advice truly knowing the situation itself.
I just hope it all works out!!
Awe Cinema ((((HUGS))))! That soooo sucks that your FI and his family are being so unreasonable! I would be so upset too it my FI was only 25 minutes away and hadn't come to visit me. I would also be irrate if we barely spoke on Christmas Day! Yeeesh.
I would talk to him about how this wasn't a cool arrangment this year. Perhaps he was suffering in silence in order to appease his family? But if not, this definitely merits a talk.
I'll be checking this thread regularly to see how you are doing!
Please don't take this the wrong way but you should be one of your FI's main priorities. And it doesn't sound like you are. I'm sorry to hear this. And his family sounds like a bunch of idiots as well to make you feel this way and to say those things to you. Even if you don't get along with them, there is such a thing called tact and they seriously are lacking.
I would talk to your FI. You need to know that you matter. Between you and me you also deserve more!
Awww I'm so sorry!! That really sucks. My family used to kind of be that way. My grandparents were really old school and unless you were married to one of us, you could NOT come to any family holidays. Things have since changed after my grandfather died but it was like that for nearly 30 years.
It's not right, but I guess what I'm saying is some family just have wierd traditions and it's not always personal. BUT I don't think it's acceptable that he barely called you or saw you even though he's 25 minutes away. You guys definitley need to talk.
Oh honey, thyis totally sucks! I thik you need to have a talk with your FI. You WILL be family, like it or not, and this blatant shunning/rejection of you is not cool. My family does christmas like yours--it's so boring, i can't stand it. ;DH's family drinks, he goes off to play video games with his best friend (who married his cousin) and i kinda get left out in the open. I do the dishes so I'm "busy" ya know? Or some family member latches on to me and talks about cookies or something totally random. Sometimes holidays are just stressful, I totally get it. I hope next year is better for you. But your FI's family's behavior is really unacceptable =(. Rude, too. And not classy...wine in a sippy cup? oh gosh. That's like, something i'd do on St Patty's day or something, back when i was in college =]
Time for talky time. Biig talk.
And CP here is a huge hug from me. (((((((CP)))))))))
There's no excuse for that. Personally any grown woman using a sippy cup for anything but a child needing a beverage is beyond me.
I fear there may be a bit too much drinking going on.
Oh girl I'm sorry! My holiday sucked too and now my husband has to take the GRE today so I will mostly be alone.
Hey cinema! I'm sorry it was so awful for you! I would be upset too if I were in your shoes. I totally agree with bellenga though, and am concerned about the drinking.
As far as his family goes, it is amazing to me that they are treating you this way, especially after 5 years of dating! I wonder what the deal is... are you and him getting along ok? Not to pry, but if he feels like there are some issues between you, he may have discussed them with his family & that could be the cause of it. If all is well with you, then it is just completely bizarre & I'm more inclined to think it's because of the alcohol.
At any rate, I hope it all works out for you! Don't like to see you sad!
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Maureen--it is 100% your fiance's job to stand up for you and not let his family get away with that crap. With my last relationship, the ex let his mom be horrifically rude to me. In fact, it was so bad that his DAD stepped in and made his mom apologize to me. But I was humiliated that he couldn't be bothered to say anything and let his dad do his work for him. I should have taken that as a major red flag, but I didn't.
Flash forward . . . with my fiance, he sets firm boundaries with his parents and they respect them (and him). And because I knew him for years before we ever started dating and saw how he handled his parents with his exes, I know this is just his character, not specifically with me, so I'm very confident his parents will never be a problem in our relationship-it's not an act or a temporary thing. He's not disrespectful about it, but he's made it perfectly clear to his parents that we are a unit, and if I'm not made to feel welcome and treated properly, we will not be visiting. For the record though, my future in-laws are absolutely wonderful. :-)
I know it's cliche, but you DO marry the family to an extent. He is a product of his family, and you've just seen a snapshot of future holidays and your life to come (at least every other year). Is that something you want to live with and to expose your future children to? Do you really want them to see their mother treated like a second-class citizen? To see their father let his family treat their mother like a second-class citizen? He may not have heard what was said to you, but he certainly had to have noticed you not sitting next to him and he should have spoken up about it. And if he's okay with not sitting next to you and letting you sit off in the corner by yourself or not being considered family, are you okay with that mentality?
So Update here... we talked about it for a LONG time this morning. He agreed that he was not trying to cause tension with the family about leaving to come see me, since they lay on the guilt trip, and we discussed exactly how he's going to avoid it in the future. I know this is something that he'll have to work on, but he says he's truly willing to work on it... and he's not happy with them either, they always make him feel bad in some way about himself too. I think it may be because his mom is flighty and possibly an alcoholic so I have to cut him a little slack in as far as they treat me--he does stand up for me apparently when I don't see it. And he didn't notice what they said/did to me, but he offered to talk to them about it if I wanted.
I'm glad you talked to him definately, and I'm glad he's willing to talk to his family (if you want him too) about the things they said to you.. It's crappy when family members have that much control over someone & can put them on a guilt trip so easily. I can see where he would feel torn in a way, but he does need to realize that you are going to be his wife and therefore, part of his family. It will be his job to stick up for you and be there for you, regardless of what they say, etc. Anyway, I hope things are all better for you now and you can move forward into a happy new year! :)
And another talk... I actually told him straight that I know I'll end up coming between him and his family, and that if he wants me to be his wife, he has to support me. I think we had some communication barriers before, because he was like... "I know, that's what I have been telling you!" So I think maybe part of the problem was understanding what was going on. Phew. what a lesson on communicating and how to deal with problem in-laws!
you mentioned the mother might be an alcoholic. does your FI think this is the case as well (sometimes it's easier for folks outside of the family to notice these things)? the wine in a sippy cup to me is a major red flag. did the restaurant not have wine of their own? and why a sippy cup and not a coffee cup? i would be worried that a little kid would pick up the sippy cup and try and drink from it.
is she nice to you when she hasn't been drinking?
it might be a good idea to look in to al-anon groups in your area. they offer support for those who have friends and family members who struggle with alcoholism. http://www.al-anon.alateen.org/
you might also look into info on adult children of alcoholics. http://www.adultchildren.org/
there might also be books on there about dealing with problem in-laws. maybe some of the bees could recommend a few?
her alcoholism is something the family has tried, tried and tried again to end, but you can't change someone until they're ready to change. She did not take the cup in, but drank it down in the car during our 7 minute ride to the restaurant (yeah, that's pretty bad) and ordered wine when we got there, too.
I thank you for the suggestions, but she's definitely a functioning alcoholic, and they all know it. She's also pretty delusional (and ironically a therapist/counselor) so it may never happen that she gets the help that she probably needs; she is too convinced that she's not an alcoholic and too proud to accept it. she never drinks and drives so i think they all just believe she isn't harming anyone...
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I know, I know, it's Christmas... but seriously. My family hardly celebrated at all (and I was at home for it, so umm... it would have been nice to have a little bit of celebration), and then my FI didn't even bother to call today, but talked to me for like 5 minutes on gchat. (Side note: FI is 25 minutes away, but hasn't come to see me but once in the last two weeks. I've had to go see him like six times.) Didn't come by, didn't bother to talk to me tonight... nothing. And I wasn't invited over there, because... well, you'll see why in the next paragraph.
I'm just so frustrated. He goes to his parents house, drinks all night and just forgets about me... and the thing is, I'd think it was immaturity except for the fact that his whole family just sits around and drinks! (Another sidenote: his mom has put WINE in a SIPPY CUP to take with her on the way to going out to eat with them.) They made it perfectly clear last night at his birthday dinner that I am not family to them and that family is most important (his brother said something to me and NO ONE let me sit next to FI at his birthday dinner... I sat literally in my own far off corner of this oddly shaped table.) What kills me is that his mom kept saying stuff only to him while the rest of his family was saying this stuff--so he has no idea that they basically told me off!
Seriously, I am so mad at all of them... I know it's their fault he hasn't come by--they guilt trip him every time he wants to leave, and then they leave and go do things when they said they wanted to "spend time with him."
Ok, ok, I'm done with my vent. I'm just so sad over the whole thing... I'm glad christmas is over. I've never been happy about it before, but I truly am this year.