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Ok, help needed, how do you make savory pie crust?

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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    The recipe I'm using calls for a pre-made (unbaked) pie crust, but there were none at the store. It's a savory potato, onion and goat cheese pie. So... how do I make pie crust?

    I know it is basically butter, flour, water and a teeny bit of salt but I'm not sure of the nuances of making the crust.

    Any baker bees want to help?

     
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    septcabride    September 2010  

    A savory pie crust is the same as for a sweet pie.  Here is the recipe I like best - http://smittenkitchen.com/2008/11/pie-crust-102-all-butter-really-flaky-pie-dough/

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    Crust is crust. Pie crust isn't sweet so you can just use that. There are a lot of recipes out there but basically you just need flour, fat (butter, crisco, or lard), and ice cold water with a pinch of salt. Do make just a bottom crust, my recipe is: 

    1 1/4 c flour

    1/2 c fat (i prefer butter flavored crisco. if you use butter make sure it is not TOO soft)

    1/4 tsp salt

    4-6 tbspn ice cold water

     

    Put the flour and salt in a bowl, Cut in the fat (use a pastry cutter or 2 knives) until it resembles small pebbles/peas (don't overmix!). Add the water 1 tbspn at a time and mix. You want juuuuuuust enough to make it come together. Not so much it is sticky. Once you can form it into a ball, flatten it into a round disk and wrap in seran wrap. Refrigerate for 30 min then roll out. Double recipe for a double crust pie. 

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    Awesome... thank you both!

     

    @CorgiTales: Is it better to hand mix? Or use a food processor and pulse?

     
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    bells    June 26, 2011  

    I mix by hand. Also I think the consistency of the crust really depends on the proportion of butter and milk/water ( I use milk instead of water)  some crust are more flaky whilst others are more crumbly. The less water you add the less crumbly it will be

     
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    septcabride    September 2010  

    I agree with both Bells and Corgi.  The Smitten Kitchen recipe I linked to has a really in-depth discussion of butter v. lard, hand mixing v. food processor, and the use of vodka.  Pie crust, like most baking, is a weird chemistry, so the more you know the better your product.

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    @KatNYC2011: hand mix, in my opinion, because you're trying hard not to over-mix. You want to keep small chunks of fat because they are what make the crust flaky. As does the water/milk content. That is why you want to break the fat up not so it is smooth but rather in small chunks, and use juuuuuuust enough liquid to get the dough to hold together. When you form it into a ball you should definitely see a varied texture, it shouldn't be one homogenized mix of everything you should see butter bits. lol

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    Thanks all.

    Hand mix it was and I only had butter so that's what I used.

    It's chilling in the fridge now. Not sure if I'll use it tonight or tomorrow, but will let you know how it comes out.

    I'm sure this first attempt may not be the best, but it's a step in the right direction. And you can only learn if you try right?

     
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    piglet_625    January 1, 1991  

    I love making pie crust!!  I usually make sure everything's cold beforehand.  I'll chill the bowl, flour and salt beforehand too if it's warmer weather because it helps the butter stay cold.  In cooler weather, I find it's not as much an issue.

    You definitely want to make sure you have flecks of butter throughout the dough when it's mixed.  That will create the flakey part of the crust.  Practice makes perfect, though. :)

     
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    jjmomma    March 11, 2011  

    @septcabride:  Bless your crust-loving heart!  I'm making the desserts for Thanksgiving this year and the illustrations in your link showed me exactly what I've been doing wrong.  If they thought my pies were good before... :)

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    Ok, another silly question... I don't have a rolling pin, can I put the dough between 2 pieces of wax paper and use a wine bottle instead?

    Or do I need to go out and buy a rolling pin?  I will eventually get a rolling pin, I just don't have one right now.

     
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    jjmomma    March 11, 2011  

    @KatNYC2011:  I've used a bottle before... be careful to evenly distribute the pressure.  Definitely buy a rolling pin for the future.

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    @KatNYC2011: yep I've totally done that. Also, make sure you flour the surfaces you're rolling on so the crust doesn't stick. 

     
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    Aubergold    May 2012   DC metro

    Baking sounds so hard.....

     
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    Ember78    December 15, 2012  

    The crust is the same whether it's for a sweet or savory pie. The filling is the only difference.

     
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    artbee    February 28, 2010  

    I use my grandma's pie crust, so easy! 2 cups flour, 1/2 oil, 1/4 milk. This makes a top and bottom so half it if you only need a bottom. It's very thin and flaky. And like the other girls said, best if you mix by hand.

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    Crust turned out ok, I think I just need more practice. Definitely edible and worked with the pie but tasted a little "flour-y" to me. I may try one of the recipes with milk next time.

     
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    yellowshoe    December 2011   Laguna Beach, CA

    @septcabride: I made this pie crust this past weekend for a chicken pot pie. It was soooo good. THANK YOU!

     
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    mrskesslertobe    September 18, 2010  

    My Grandma is known for her pie crusts and the big thing she does different is that she uses actual lard from the butcher shop instead of processed products. If you ask any older family member I would almost gaurantee that is what they use. I haven't tried it yet because I  just can't bring myself to buy it, but it is suppose to make a big difference.

     

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