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What would you guys prefer...an open bar during cocktail hour (to only last 1 hour) or an open bar (we'd choose to do a limit bar--guests to pay for their drinks once limit has been reached) during the reception?
I would do both, but not being rich has limitations...So pros and cons please? TIA!
While I fully appreciate budget constraints, I just don't think it's right to charge people to drink at your wedding. If you can't afford a full open bar all night, perhaps serve just beer and wine, or champagne punch - no need to supply enough vodka for the Russian Army, you know? I'm not rich - my entire wedding is coming in at just over $5000 - and doing an open beer and wine bar is still well within my budget. I have been to several large, beautiful weddings where this was done and heard not a single complaint that there was no Maker's Mark on the bar menu.
I agree with Caroline. You should never make people pay to drink at your wedding. No matter what, IMO.
i disagree.
we're probably doing unlimited beer and wine, but if guests want to buy a cocktail, they're more than welcome to.
reesey- we're thinking about doing open bar everything during the cocktail hour and then limiting alcohol to beer/wine during the rest of the reception.
i recently attended a wedding where the open bar was open during cocktail hour but not the reception. During the reception they left bottles of wine and champagne at each table...I don't think anyone really missed the open bar =P.
i would say to go with one of the suggestions above (open beer/wine throughout either with a cocktail open bar or not, depending on finances). not sure what the norm is in your area or what your guests expect, but i wouldn't expect to bring cash for drinks to a wedding and it may be a bit awkward for your guest to had a complimentary cocktail during the cocktail hour, only to go back to the bar later on and be expected to pay.
you can do what i'm doing. i'm going to have open bar during cocktail hour, close it during dinner so that people can have dinner and poured wine service, and i'm going to open again after the festivites for the paaaaaaaarrrrtaaaaaaaay~
I agree with what most people have said. As a guest I would never expect to pay for drinks at a wedding. It's like being invited to a dinner party and having to pay for your drinks.
I was recently at a wedding that had an open bar for the cocktail hour and then guest had to pay after that. I've never been to a wedding like that before and clearly most people hadn't etheir because just from overhearing conversations, people were very unpleasantly surprised.
I think you have some different options. You can limit the bar to wine, beer and champagne. Everyone will be perfectly fine with this. Another option I've seen done with huge success is to have alcohol at each table, (I've seen bottles of hard alcohol like vodka along with wine). This will save you tons of money and it's convenient for the quests because they don't have to get up to get drinks. Or you can mix and match the options.
The worst option however is to have free alcohol and then "take it away".
The event coordinator at my reception venue actually advised against putting bottles of wine on the table, because she has seen so many go to waste that way. (And even if the table does drink all the wine placed there--maybe they would drink less if they had to go up to the bar and get it themselves!!) We're bringing in our own alcohol and using a discount liquor place--they'll take back the unopened bottles after the wedding and only charge for what we use. We're also sticking to beer, wine, and a signature drink for the cocktail hour. In our crowd at least, everyone will be perfectly happy with beer or wine with their dinner.
I admit that I don't like the idea of having people pay for drinks. I was at a wedding once where they had open bar for cocktail hour and cash bar after. Trouble was, the ceremony started very late, and once we finally made it to the reception venue, the bartenders had declared cocktail hour over! That couple was offering all kinds of alcohol along with beer and wine, and I really think they could have pulled off an open bar if they had nixed the liquor.
I fought this battle and lost with my parents, so we're having free beer and wine and then if people want a cocktail they can pay. Apparently it's the norm there (midwest). And since they're paying for it, I dropped it. Our venue coordinator said that a lot of the weddings are like that there.
if you want to provide alcohol for each table. pretty much anywhere you buy it, they will take back anything that is unopened....and if they don't, hey more for your bar at home :-)
As to Smithie's comment about guest maybe drinking more if they don't have to get up to get it --> I guess I come from a culture where we WANT our guest to drink a lot at wedding. hahaha
Sometimes, though, providing bottles of alcohol on the tables isn't allowed by the catering company (or could come with a hefty corkage fee).
I think that having a full open bar for cocktail hour followed by a wine/beer/champagne bar during the dinner would be a good choice. Or maybe just going with a consumption bar up to a certain dollar amount?
maybe beer and wine and a signature cocktail or spiked punch?
We're doing just beer and wine (got the wine during BevMo nickle sale!) and a champange punch.
Alot of people don't bring cash to weddings because they don't exactly expect to pay for anything. It would be a bummer to show up and not be able to get a drink.
I've been to event with just beer and wine, no one complains
We are doing one hour open bar during the cocktail hour. For dinner we have 26 bottles of wine that we have prepaid for (for 120 people) if people want to continue to drink. I don't like drunk people, so I figure that by only having an open bar for an hour, and then wine and champagne with dinner, it will keep most people sober. I've seen a few of my friends weddings almost ruined because of sloppy and loud drunk guests. I like the cocktail hour idea and wine with dinner.
Calio~ If you only have 26 bottles of wine for 120 people and you have "normal" size wine glasses, which are usually between 6-8 oz. at the smallest, you don't have enough wine for everybody to have one class. You get about 5-5oz. servings in a bottle of wine and that's with a bartender pouring. When you let people pour their own wine, you get a lot less. You might want to order a couple of more bottles. I usually calculate getting between 4(my friends)-5(parties) glasses per bottle at the most if people are self-pouring. Just thought I'd share.
If you're going the BYOB route, check out Evite's drink calculator: http://www.evite.com/pages/party/drink-calculator.jsp
Everyone is going to have different preferences regarding whether to have a cash bar or not, so I guess for me I would not appreciate going to a wedding and paying for my drinks. I agree with previous posts that doing a wine/beer bar would be better than cash bar or offering the signature drink in addition if you wanted to incorporate a hard alcohol drink. If you do decide to have a cash bar, I've heard some etiquette rules say you should at least let guests know ahead of time. Also, if people really want to drink they can always do that with an after party. HTH!
I noticed above a poster was talking about how many glasses you get per bottle of wine... You get 5 glasses out of a bottle of wine and a standard poor is about 1/2 the glass. If your guests are pooring themselves they usually poor 3/4 of a glasss- that's why you see couples putting atleast 2 bottles of wine on the table, and having some in reserve. You don't want to run out. (I'm a wine server on the weekends)
I have to agree with almost everyone else here... you need some sort of free alcohol all night or you should limit your guest number/cut corners else where. I appreciate tight budgets, but your guests are giving up their time to support you and shower you with gifts, while it's probably their pleasure- everyone expects to have a good time. I would definitley do beer and wine- and if guests want to pay for regular alcohol, let them.
I've been to one wedding where we had to pay for our own drinks, and I like many others here, heard terrible comments from the guests. I realize this couple had a tight budget- but there were obvious places the couple could have cut some corners (ie. honey moon, floral arrangments, favors, etc...) People expect to drink at a wedding- and would much rather be provided for in that way then a favor (at this particular wedding it was a silver picture frame with the bride and grooms name).
You have to do what you can do, but I would take the recommendations of other brides and provide something to drink all night and do without something else.
If you have to choose I would go with the cocktail hour open bar. People are just getting warmed up during the cocktail hour and will appreciate a drink or two.
The problem with having an open bar during the reception and then cutting it off at a certain monetary limit is that it will be hard to convey this to your guests. Your best option is to offer guests "cocktails and food" from 5-6pm or whatever and that makes it clear that drinks may not continue.
good luck
The last wedding I went to didn't have alcohol--at all. People were complaining left and right. Now it's not like I'm an alcoholic and need to have a drink to be happy, but at a reception, I feel alcohol is an assumed offering. At no point was I planning on getting drunk that night, but I would like to have had a couple drinks during a 4-5 hour reception. No alcohol is the worst case scenario.
The second worst case scenario is having guests pay for drinks. The wedding I went to before the one with no alcohol had a set number of drinks that were free and then guests were expected to pay after that limit was reached. I probably had 2 glasses of wine and then my fiance and I were told we (along with everyone else) would need to start paying for drinks as the limit had been reached. Let's just say we were not happy. We had traveled from Tampa to Daytona Beach for this wedding, rented a hotel, paid for gas, I had gone to Orlando for a Bachelorette party AND bridal shower, and we had to pay for our own drinks. It doesn't leave a good flavor in guests' mouths to make them pay.
Trust me, I completely understand budgetary constraints as I am planning my own wedding right now. But, I totally agree with what other girls have said here--cut corners somewhere or just have a beer and wine bar. When I go to a wedding all I drink is wine or beer anyway. I don't think people will miss the liquor whatsoever. I actually don't think it's that wrong to have free beer and wine and then if someone wants a cocktail they can pay for it. At least they have the option of free drinks, they are just choosing to get something else.
HTH!!!!! Good luck!
Another option I forgot to mention is drink tickets.
If you're having budget problems then maybe this scenario may work - have an open bar during the cocktail hour and then place 1-4 drinks tickets at each place setting for the dinner. This way it will be clear that drinks are not free, but it will also give your guests the option to get a drink (or two, three....) when they feel like one. This will also be good for budgeting as you will know exactaly how many drinks tickets you can afford to place at each table.
I know everyone keeps saying you HAVE to offer unlimited drinks all night long but this really depends on your personal choice and geographical location. (I also do not see how saying you must have unlimited drinks is good advice considering her question asked specifically whether cocktail or reception drinks would be best). I have never been to a full open bar wedding before and have attended around 10 where there were drink tickets, or wine on the table and the remaining was a cash bar.
I won't be offering a full open bar at my wedding as with drinks at $9-$10 each (Yes, each) I cannot allow the 150 people at my wedding to enjoy unlimited beverages. No matter where I cut back on expenses it just cannot happen. There is also the issue of uncertainty with the open bar as it you won't know the price until it is all over. In an attempt not to go bankrupt after the wedding we are going with wine during dinner and drinks tickets for afterwards.
Sorry, I stand by my post - it is just downright rude to make your guests basically pay their way at your wedding - I don't care where in the country you live. If it was socially acceptable to pick your nose and eat it in Indiana, I still would not throw a "Pick Your Nose and Eat It" party. Do a basic Google search of "wedding etiquette cash bar" and you'll quickly see how unacceptable it is. Having a wedding is not like inviting a group of friends to a bar where you all go Dutch. You (or your family) are hosting a party. Just because it isn't at your home does not mean you do not have a responsibility to be gracious hosts. It's not a college keg party where you collect cash at the door to cover the cost of your beer ball. These people have traveled far and supported you and your relationship for many years, as well as bought you expensive gifts or given you an envelope stuffed with cash - the least you can do is spring for a few glasses of wine.
If you can't afford to treat your guests well, then you can't afford the kind of wedding you are trying to have. It is time to re-examine your priorities.
Open bar (or limited open bar i.e. wine/beer/champagne) is usually the norm for weddings in reesey's + my area (OC/LA).
I think the drink ticket alternative is a good option, too.
Wisconsin is a good example of why it isn't always a good idea to have an open bar all evening. People drink a ton, and public drunkenness is tolerated if now downright encouraged, so open bar can cost an outrageous amount and turn your wedding into a drunken house party nightmare. Festive people? Yes. Classy people? Not always. As a guest, I go to a wedding expecting to pay for my drinks, and if there's an open bar -- SWEET!
I think the easiest thing to do is to have an open bar for cocktail hour, since a cash bar/open bar/ cash bar scenario could be confusing -- many guests may not realize when the open bar is and so on. Besides, this way more of your guests will be able to enjoy the generosity, since many people have a cocktail during cocktail hour and don't drink much else the rest of the evening.
Cheers!
I have three priorities: (1) to marry my husband-to-be, (2) to have as many of my friends and family join me in celebration of our marriage with delicious food and a few drinks and, (3) to stay within a reasonable budget that we as recent graduates of grad school feel we are comfortable with.
I have no doubt in my mind that even one guest at my wedding (where we are asking solely for charitable donations in our name and are not accepting traditional wedding gifts) will think that the 4-5 drinks we are offering is rude and not gracious. This may be because the type of friends and family that we have wouldn't think twice about paying for their own 5th or 6th drink if they so desired.
It's a personal preference. I wouldn't judge anyone based on what they do or do not decide to do despite being judged by others. It is about your own choices, priorities and guests.
I think you should go for open bar during cocktail hour and then either switching to cash bar or doing the thing with the tickets.
The only wedding I've been to that used the tickets worked fine. They had open bar for the cocktail hour and then 2 tickets per person. Since I just drink soda I gave my tickets to friends who would pay $2 for my soda and get their more expensive alcoholic beverage for free.
In a perfect world, I would have open bar all night at my wedding. However, included in the price per person is 3 hours of open bar. So, I'm having the cocktail hour and the first 2 hours of the reception open bar. If people still haven't had their fill, then they will just have to pay for their own drinks during that last 2 hours.
Reading these posts makes me feel bad about that, but I just don't have an additional $10 per person per hour to keep the bar open all night. I would rather only have 3 hours of open bar and more guests, then not inviting people so the some can drink all night.
katemw -- a large portion of our guests don't drink -- if they ask for wine they will be offered white or red. Everyone will get a glass of champagne. If for some reason we go over our 26 bottles, we will have the option during the night to approve more (I've given my wedding coordinator the amount that we are willing to go up to); however, I don't see this as being necessary. Also, most of my friends that are married said that they over bought on the alcohol. We have 13 tables and 2 bottles of wine per table (plus champagne for everyone , 1 hour open bar, and a wine of our choice for the bride and groom) --that is enough alcohol for our event (espcially considering that most people will be driving to LA for our event).
I know that miss etiquette says not to make people pay to drink, but i dont agree. I've never been to a wedding that is open bar. Living in central Illinois, not many people can afford it. Actually, given the economy it doesn't matter where you're from, not many people can afford it.... especially since most brides and grooms pay for the wedding themselves. I wouldn't want the bride and groom to go broke just so i can get my drink on. Most weddings around here obviously offer free tea, coffee and pop. Some people choose to do the open bar during cocktail hour, which is really nice. My fiance and I are going to do a limited open bar. Beer, some wine and maybe a signature drink. We can barely afford to pay for the wedding as is, and we would like to be able to buy a house in the next few years and start a family. Paying $5/per drink per person for an open bar is out of the question for us.
I would suggest the limited open bar, this way your guests aren't in that one hour time frame. Do what works best for you two, it's your wedding and people aren't there for the drinks, they're there to support the two of you!! good luck!
One last comment I forgot to add in... :)
For some reason this topic really annoys me!
I find the argument so often used of "you wouldn't invite people to your house and then ask them to pay" to be flawed. While yes it is true that I wouldn't ask my guests to pay at my house I would also have a limit on how much I would serve. For an evening I would have perhaps a case of beer and a bottle of wine or two, NOT unlimited beverages. Being a "gracious host" means making your guests comfortable, not providing for their every need. Whatever you think is acceptable to provide will be perfectly acceptable as long as you would be happy with the situation if you were a guest! :)
Like everyone else, under budget constraints, I like the beer/wine option or the drink ticket option. It's the least confusing to your guests.
Luckily for our wedding, we found an AWESOME bartender that charged only $12.95/person for a 5-hour open bar. They brought everything they needed and the service was impeccable (no watered-down drinks either). The open bar was definitely a hit :-) Highly recommended.
If you're in the Sacramento area and you're interested in booking them, call the Zebra Club in downtown and ask for Gerry.
I'm for the beer and wine options or drink tickets.
I think too many brides don't think about the guest. Yes you are on a budget contraint- but your guest probably has budget constraints too. They might have to buy an outfit to attend, gas, possibly hotel, maybe a sitter, and typically people give a wedding gift to the couple. Your guest just doesn't get to show up. I'm not saying you have to have a premium bar... but something should always be provided all evening- unless it's a morning/ early afternoon wedding. Then it's understandable.
For people who are making people pay for their alcohol and not offering anything else after a certain point I would let your guests know so they have cash or a credit card on them. Last wedding I went to like this- my fiance and I both left our personal belongings 30 minutes away. We had to drive back to the hotel to get a credit card. I personally wish this couple would have invited less people, instead of as many as they could and having a cash bar.
Congrats!
I think everyone has some great ideas here about limited open bar, (wine and beer) and wine at each table, etc. The only idea that I have an uncomfortable feeling about is the ticket idea. Maybe it's just me. In college i was in a sorority and we used to do that at our social functions. So the ticket idea just seems a little immature and dare I say tacky and brings up images of drunk frat guys for me. sorry.
Another open bar option that many companies offer is a sliding pay scale. So instead of paying per person per hour or paying for all beverages consumed at the end of the night, you pay a flat fee per hour and each hour the flat fee is less, (because think about it, people drink less as the night goes on). I've heard a lot of people save a lot of money this way because usually the actual alcohol consumed is more than the flat fee.
MissEsq--I totally remember the drink tickets at sorority functions!!! ha ha, too funny, that's the first thing I thought of when I saw the drink ticket comments. I never thought of it for a wedding...could be a good idea, depends on the person. I have never heard of it for weddings.hmm..learn something new every day.
We had open bars at our fraternity/sorority parties as well. In responce to MsB...IMO being a gracious host does mean taking care of as many needs as you can while they are under your "care". No matter how many excuses people give, letting your guests pay to drink at an event that they traveled to, possibly rented a hotel, bought your a gift and took time out of their life to be with you on your wedding day is NOT ok. I don't care if you serve all beer and wine, open bar all night, NO CASH BAR. BAD!!!!
I've seen a question similar to this and posted this:
A Wedding is a celebration of a couple's love and their first official party as husband and wife! Generally when one hosts a "party" guests are treated, so that is not any different from a Wedding.
Etiquette will dictate that a invited guest should be treated as a guest from beginning to end of the event. Understanding budget constraints, let's look at a few elegant options that will look like a million bucks for a beer budget:
First of all, check your overall budget and see if you can make any small cuts from other places, skimp on guest favors (no one keeps them anyway), have the florist pull a few flowers out of the centerpiece for a $5 per table discount, offer a few less appetizers during the cocktail hour. No one will notice these, but you may be able to save enough to cover alcohol costs.
Offer a "signature drink" that will look elegant and chic - negotiate with the venue for a good price, then offer a domestic beer and wine (have the venue charge you by the bottle and not the glass). You do not have to offer a "FULL" bar!
Also, generally you are forced into a champagne toast 1/2 through the evening. If this is the case, have the venue serve the champagne as people walk into the cocktail hour, via butler style. That way it looks elegant, but it's not costing you an arm and a leg. It's a cost you are already incurring.
Lastly, try your best to accommodate the bar tab into your budget. At worst case scenario turn it into a cash bar after a limit is reaches - but remember there may be cash amongst the Wedding gifts to pay for the extra tab!
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In regards to MsB's post:
EVERY time I've had a dinner party my guests BRING a bottle of wine. They call and ask "can I bring anything" and I say "no it is all taken car of" and then they say "ok, but how about a bottle of wine?" and I say "everything is taken care of, but if you would like to bring a bottle of wine there are no complaints here."
It is NOT just about the hostess being gracious, but also about the GUEST being gracious. I was offended by the comment about brides not thinking about our guests. I've done nothing but think about my guests and what I can offer them within my budget. If we (brides) were not thinking about our guests we wouldn't have any guests, or we would serve peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and still expect $100 gifts.
A wedding is a celebration -- and the reception is a party FOR THE GUESTS, that the bride and groom (and hopefully family) are paying for. So it is imperative that the bride and groom not go into debt just because they might have a few rude guests that are offended by not having a fully hosted bar. If the guests know the bride and groom, then they should understand their situation.
As I said, my <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic">entire wedding budget is $5000 and I am still able to offer unlimited beer and wine to my guests. We are not going into debt to sponsor any part of our wedding, are having a budget wedding, and are still treating our guests the way they would be treated when they come to our home. Speaking of, to address a comment that was made earlier about that subject... Someone said that if they had a dinner party with alcohol they would not provide an unlimited amount of liquor for their guests to drink, but have a certain number of bottles of wine available and once those are gone, no more drinking. Understood, but would you tell your dinner party guests, "If you want more you can have it, but I'm gonna have to charge you $5 a glass."?
No, you would not. Or maybe you would, and that's why this is not an issue.
calioteach, in regards to your comment about guests bringing something to a dinner party, that's called a hostess gift. Guests bring hostess gifts to weddings, too - it's called a wedding present. While I fully agree that no one should go through life with any sort of sense of entitlement, I would be just as put off by having to pay for drinks at any hosted event, a wedding, a dinner party, a funeral, because I would never expect the same of my guests at an event thrown by me. If you can't afford to be a gracious host, either don't have alcohol at all, find an option (beer and wine), cut your guest list, or don't have a party.
I guess we all run in different social circles and that is the bottom line. Within my group of friends who will be invited to the wedding we would never judge each other based on something as trivial as how many free drinks were offered at a wedding. My friends will be delighted to attend my wedding where I will offer them 5 choices of delicious entrees and a few glasses of wine or beer. I guarantee that none of my guests would even think twice about paying for their own alcohol beyond our provided minimum because that is the kind of people that they are. They would realize that in order to have all of them spend this important day with us that this is a limit we need to place.
In the past 12 months we both graduated from 8 & 9 years of university each, bought a house, a car and are planning a wedding. My friends are understanding people and they will realize the sacrafices we are making to have our wedding. I now know how truely lucky I am to be surronded by such wonderful people who will be attending our wedding for us, not for the perks of attending.
CarolineG - FYI offering my 150 guests 4 drinks at my wedding will cost more than your entire wedding. This is why it's just not feasible. My friends will respect that.
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