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I'm the type of person that says..whatever floats your boat, but this whole thing with open marriages is a bit too out there for me. Would you ever consider it? I sure wouldn't and I definitely would be offended if my FH brought it up. In that case, I wouldn't marry him lol. What are your thoughts?
I don't even understand why you would get married if you want an open marriage.
@MissAsB I don't understand either but I do know a few people who are engaged and participate in swinging. Is that the same thing?
Most definitely not!! I don't see what the point of gettign married would be. IMO you might as well stay single.
it's definitely not for me and i would NEVER consider it. nor do i really understand it. but my attitude towards pretty much everything is that as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, what two consenting adults do, is their business.
@ToasterCat: I think swinging is a little different because it's with certain people but I think an open marriage is just anyone that you find interesting (and you don't have to do things with your partner around).
It's funny how this is the new thing and hearing about it more ..The actress Monique, who won the Oscar for the movie Precious is in an open marriage...I just think it's a bit out there for me.
I'm with you on the whatever floats your boat. For us, TMI but oh well, we've had company but going off with someone else without your partner wouldn't fly.
And why is it that we'll say Too Much Information (meaning, I really shouldn't say this...) and then go ahead and say it any way. It's like "with all due respect..." :-)
I wanted to add that I have an ex boyfriend who is now married, with two kids and they have an open marriage. They both love each other very much and are 100% committed to each other, their relationship and their children. But they are of the mind that humans beings are not meant to be sexually monogamous and that one person can't satisfy all our physical needs. It seems to work for them so I guess that's all that matters, (regardless of anyone else's opinion on the matter).
Definitely NOT for me and I don't understand it at all.
However, I have heard of some couple that are very much in love, and were until the husband died. Well on the man's death bed, they told their adult children that they had been having "date night" once a week throughout their marriage, but the date was with other prople. They loved each other but the sexual chemistry wasn't there. So they fulfilled that elsewhere, but were happy together all those years.
So I guess it can happen, with lots of self confidence, trust in your love and relationship......... but NOT for me!!!
I'm in the "whatever floats your boat" camp. If it isn't harming anyone then by all means, do what you want!
Not for me though.
I agree. As long as no one is getting hurt consenting adults should do as they please. I just wouldn't do it lol.
The very idea makes me feel physically ill. I know two (completely unrelated) people who told me or my husband that they had engaged in those kinds of activities and all parties are now divorced (3 divorces total). Also those people are no longer in our circle of friends, because my husband and I agree not to maintain friendships with people whose lack of boundaries could endanger our marriage.
This is so interesting.
An Open Marriage sounds like it would be really difficult to have. I mean, wouldn't trust issues and stuff come up?
@snmcdowell: I don't know if I would have ended the friendship as long as boundaries between you and your husband, and that couple are made clear, but I do understand how it could possibly endanger your marriage.
Not for me. Although I understand some people have needs their spouses cannot fulfill or choose not to (or just want the spice? I dunno, whatefver). If both people are in agreement with having relations outside their marriage, so be it. Some people truly believe in non-monogamy. As long as both people are 100% okay with it.
@ToasterCat, I think you can swing with people you don't know, too.
there are resorts for people who look for fulfillment outside their marriage, too.
Absolutely one thousand percent N.O. NO.
If that's what floats your boats what's the point of getting married? N.O.
And how do the children not get hurt when they find out their parents have been sleeping with other people all these years?
I'm in the "whatever floats your rubber ducky" camp. I go back and forth, but can sort of see why two people who didn't feel the need to be sexually monogamous would marry - particularly given the nature of health insurance requirements, etc. Besides the practical element, sex means different things to different people. If both people feel that it's a primarily physcial, rather than emotional, interaction I can see why it wouldn't be incomatible ian a marriage where the spousal relationship is seen as the primary emotional bond for both partners.
I've had several friends that have tried open relationships (although not marriages).... never works.
Not my thing when it comes to marriage.
Hubs and I had an "open relationship" for 6 months, but we did this b/c we wanted to date each other, but weren't ready for a commitment. So we set down the rules that we weren't allowed to go out on dates with anyone else, but if we made out with someone at a bar, no big deal. BUT, hubs & I came to the point where we wanted to be in a commited relationship, and with that commitment came monogamy.
I will say that every single one of my friends didn't understand our relationship in the beginning. And my friends couldn't understand how i didn't care if he hooked up with someone else. Alot of it had to do with the point of my life that I was in, it was my last year of college and I wanted to have fun and be immature. So I do understand what its like for everyone not to "get" the choices you make in your relationship. BUT, for us things changed once we became an official couple and any sort of physical relationship outside our own is a no no for us.
I don't see how it could work honestly...I would rather stay single..whats the point if you're going to be sleeping around and then jump in the same bed every night with the same man at the end of it all...I mean some people are crazy, but again thats their choice.
definitely not for me personally. it would make me super uncomfortable. but i'm in the "whatever floats your boat" camp for other people. it would take a ton of trust and communication skills to make it work, but theoretically i can see it. just not for us.
An open marriage can have as many boundaries as you would want. It does not necessarily mean that a member can have sex with anyone, anytime. All an open marriage is is a relationship that does not require sexual monogamy.
I think there are plenty of very good reasons for marrying even if you don't want sexual monogamy. Those reasons are probably the same as I have for getting married: creating a partnership, establishing security, gaining social recognition of our union. I could have all of those things without sexual monogamy. I would still demand fidelity.
Maybe this is why vibrators were made? =].Maybe a man wanted to create a non-threatening way to keep her satisfied? buah ha ha
@chipmunk yeah i've come across a few resorts who adveritse "open-ness". Trust me, you can find ANYTHING out there. There is always a niche for people with fantasies or sexual things they want to partake in. I don't even know how to say that! LOL!
I could totally see having an open relationship with someone I just started dating but wasn't ready to committ boyfriend/girlfriend with. To me, "open" doesn't necessarily mean sex, but could mean dating others. And I guess it's like married couples who end up separating, then getting back together. For some, EVEN in a marriage, they need to be sure they want to break up before they do??? Kinda boggles my mind but i know people do drastic things when they feel backed up against a wall, too.
I don't think an open marriage would work for us. I know FI and I would both be jealous if the other one was having any kind of serious emotional relationship with someone else and that's not something I want to mess with.
On the other hand, we've experimented with others (girls - FI doesn't swing the other way) and it was fun and fine and caused no problems for any party involved. I'm totally down to do that again, but it would be a carefully chosen person who we invited.
I have some friends who are exploring polygamy and invited us to a poly/swingers mixer at a bar in NYC a week ago!! We were really interested to go. We could never do that as a lifestyle, but the whole thing is fascinating to me regardless and I'd love to learn more about it.
@ejs- lol i bet you're right. although i remember reading once (maybe in my sociology of sexuality class?) that electric vibrators were first used by doctors as treatment for hysteria in women in the early 20th century! That wouldn't be an awkward doc visit at all...
Definitely not for me. It just doesn't fit into my idea of what marriage is. I'm promising to be faithful, so faithful I will be.
I can see the point if, for example, you've been married for several years and have children and are both bored to tears with only sleeping with one another. Are you supposed to just get divorced?
What if you want to come home to the same man or woman, the person with whom you parent, work, build a life, whatever, but need something else - and so does your partner? Why should a lack of sexual variety curdle an otherwise functioning, healthy, mutually beneficial relationship?
Granted, I think that would be hard to pull off, but weirder things have happened. It wouldn't surprise me if more people than we know of have relationships like this, but we don't hear about them because people don't like to be judged and, well, the responses here have been kinda judge-y. In my experience, most "open" relationships aren't. One person wants to have sex with other people, the other really doesn't but says okay to keep the relationship alive; or both people sign on without thinking about what the arrangement will entail and are then shocked to find that there's a lot of jealousy on both sides. Heartbreak ensues.
Having said all that, I don't really think I'd be well-suited to this sort of thing. I likes me some monogamy.
I have a friend who has one. She and her husband have a great marriage - they're very much lifelong partners. They're totally honest with each other and I think it's great. An real open relationship is very, very different from cheating.
I could have one... I don't think my boy, could. To me, equality and honesty are what's important. If a relationship was truly open, truly agreed upon, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's sneaking around, double standards, hiding things, that bothers me. It's hard to find two people who are on the same page that way... that are secure and open enough that other people don't get in the way of their relationship with each other. I think you also have to have a certain mindset about physical affection and what it means. But it does happen, and I think it's fabulous when it does.
In theory, I think an open marriage is a great idea. It's like you get the best of all worlds--- a stable relationship at home and a little personal spice in your sex life (let's face it, chemistry fades). But in reality I know I could never, ever do it. I would get so jealous! I mean I don't even want my fiance getting a lap dance, and that's just a totally random stranger.
@corgi - That's right.
Vibrators were first invented for the treatment of "hysteria" in women. The idea was that by stimulating a woman with "pelvic massage" (application of a vibrator) she would experience a "hysterical paroxysm" (orgasm) and be relieved of her neuroses.
Honestly, if I had to sleep with someone who had no idea how my bits worked, I would probably be pretty sexually frustrated and "hysterical", too.
i think the phrase "open marriage" is an oxymoron.
it defeats the purpose of everything marriage means, a union between two people who vow to love one another in faith and trust and loyalty to their relationship.
if someone wants the option, i say don't get married in the first place!
@ teaandtoast: that is one example. Another could be two people who want to build a life together, but just know monogamy isn't for them. Another is if one person in a relationship, due to illness or life events or whatever, loses interest in sex, but not in the relationship. I actually think in that case being open to non-monogamy is the RIGHT thing to do.
Lol @Tea... I would have been acting purposely crazy tee hee
Hmm i like your take on it. What if your husband was paralyzed and couldn't have sex with you? I still think, at least in my case, I would not do anything with anyone else no matter what unless I was a widow.
@missjyc -
"it defeats the purpose of everything marriage means, a union between two people who vow to love one another in faith and trust and loyalty to their relationship."
Why is sexual monogamy a prerequisite for the above? And is there only one acceptable definition of marriage?
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