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It is the opposite for me and FI. He definitely gives WAY more than I do! I try to keep everything relatively neat and shaved when I can (and I prefer myself clean shaven usually), but that is not always possible. He has never said anything to me about it though. He is not exactly meticulously groomed either, so I would be offended if he asked that of me. I really should give more often, but he usually starts it first and then I get all scatter-brained and a bit "out of it" and by then we usually move on to sex anyways. I will do better and try to be more of a giver than a taker from now on.
But still in terms of requesting to be groomed a certain way, well...I would be upset. I get that we all have our preference, but if that doesn't always happen, it is kind of rude for him to say he won't give you oral just because of that. It isn't going to kill him to give oral when you are not perfectly shaved sometimes!
One other question- how would you handle this with your SO?
Edit: I have shaved everything several times, but I don't like it at all because:
1. I HATE shaving- more than anyone I know, so much that I am getting laser hair removal on my legs and underarms.
2. I don't like the look.
3. When we are intimate, things get really irritated, despite good skin products and not shaving right before.
I think the hair issue is a totally valid one. I wouldn't want to do oral with my husband if he was as hairy down there as most women are if they haven't shaved. We actually both shave - I think it adds to the feeling, and is just more hygenic.
How would I handle it? I would shave. It's a pretty small request. And who wants someone else's pubic hair stuck in their teeth? Gross.
Is there a middle ground?
Hmmm how do I say this without being too graphic? OK can you shave like "the slit" and leave a bit of hair right above? If that makes sense? That youre clean where you need to be but you can still have the comfort of not being completely bare.
wow--i am right there with you. i give FI oral way more than he does to me. he really likes it, and sometimes asks me to do it. i totally dont mind! especially if i am on my period or something. but, i wish he would reciprocate more.
i guess the only way that i would handle it is that i way would stay shaved all the time. it's super important to me that my FI is uber attracted to me all the time, to i make a concious effort to cater to his preferences. i usually shave every day or every other day anyways.
I personally hate shaving with a regular razor to be completely bare. No matter what I do, my skin down there gets completely irritated. I've tried everything (really) and I ALWAYS get really painful razor burn/bumps, so I use an electric razor and get as low as possible without getting rid of everything. Maybe you guys can come to an agreement with something like this...or try waxing?
I have been shaving/waxing (bare) since I was a teenager. I never really liked the look of pubic hair, and decided to do away with it on my own accord. My SO prefers it, but admitted I am the first girlfriend he has had that has been completeley shaved, so it was a bit of pleasant surprise for him.
I shave/wax when I feel like I may be getting some action, or will be wearing a bikini - way more often in the summer, every few days in the fall/winter. My SO has definitely performed oral on me in the in-between stages and has never said a word of complaint. I think I'm more self conscious of the stubble than he is aware of it. He trims with scissors about once a month, but I don't mind either way. We are pretty 50/50 as far as oral goes, but of course, it ebs and flows.
If I were you, I would be direct about the way you like to maintain your intimate hair zones and explain that you would very much appreciate a bit more in the oral department. If he wants to give his opinion on how he prefers your lady bits to look, give him the same imput about his man parts. It only seems fair.
If I were you, I would just stop providing that service until he gets over the issue :)
Totally agree with ribs. I would tell him that it's going to be 50/50 and you intend to see to it.
I agree with Ribbons. I'd also ask him would he mind paying for a bikini wax. A brazilian is $85 and up at my spa. I wonder what he would say to that price tag each month....
Oh man, I give FH way more than he gives me, but unless I'm right out of the shower, I'm a little self-conscious to get serviced (LOL), so I'm ok with the "disparity". I also don't mind doing this for FH at all-- we both like it.
However, since you aren't ok with it, I would explain to your FH your issues with shaving completely bare. I personally can't shave every day because my skin gets very irritated as well. I actually have to let it grow out quite a bit (1-2 weeks) before I can shave again otherwise it will get MORE irritated than usual. Maybe you could actually show your FH what it does to your skin and ask him to shave ALL THE WAY, so he can actually feel the irritation-- maybe that would help him to understand?
But if you want him to acknowledge your issues, you'll have to acknowledge his and try to come up with a compromise. Maybe talk about a compromise-- more groomed while still having some hair out of the way (this might be weird, but you could even do some research/ google some "patterns" and maybe try to agree on one or try some out)? The main thing I think is a compromise, if both of you are willing. If you're not willing to compromise on the shaving, then I guess you know how things are going to be. If he's not willing to compromise, then I'd do like Ribbons said and cut him off. Hopefully he'll come to understand that you're serious and what he's doing is unfair and making you feel badly.
I can't shave without serious irritation - I wax (but not everything) and trim... I used to wax it all but I just realized it was expensive, painful, and irritated me. Plus I hate the way all-shaved looks.
In your position, I would do as Ribbons suggested and just stop giving.
It is opposite for us. I should probably but giving more than I do, but SO loves giving, which works fine for me. It is something he just really enjoys doing, and has tried multiple times to get me to let him go down on me during that time of the month...but I don't think I could ever get that comfortable with it.
I think it would probably bother me if I were in your situation. I keep everything clean shaven just because the hair bothers me sometimes, but SO could care less as long as its not unruly. lol
@ribbons: Exactly!
DH has never said anything about it to me regarding hair. I shave sometimes but not daily due to the irritation.
My FI gets WAY more than he gives but it only bothers me because I HATE putting my face down there. I think it's gross but I do it because he likes it and since I like it when he gives and I know he thinks it's gross in return I try to let on that it doesn't bother me...though it took him about 6 months after we first slept together to get me to do it so he knows I don't like it. On another note, I ALWAYS shave. I never did before I met him but after we started sleeping together he asked if I had ever tried to shave and asked if I would just once and if I didn't like it I could go back to just trimming. Now I hate it when it starts to grow out because it makes me feel...gross I guess. I know he likes it better and after he asked me to try it once I do too. The only time I let it grow is durring that time of the month and then I shave the same day it ends. I also give him a LOT durring that time too because I don't want him nearing down there on me. I'm very self-consious about bodily functions.
I would ask him to shave compleatly to see how it feels and when he doesn't like it ask him if he minded a well groomed you so much now. Either that or do like they said and try shaving part while leaving the top still groomed.
Anyone just do a little trimming? I find it easier than shaving...(of course, I don't mind all the way)--just short enough to yours (his) liking..
We have kind of the opposite problem my FI actually gives more than I do. He could care less about my grooming habits but I love brazillian waxes so I try to stay totally bare. I hate that he wants to "play" when I am between waxes.
I am not a huge fan of withholding sex (or sexual favors) as a means of finding a solution (no offense Ribbons). I just think its a bad precedent to set. You should def sit down and have a talk about your expectations and what you are willing/not willing to do.
Good luck!
We're actually pretty equal as far as give or take.
If shaving bothers you and aren't interested in waxing or laser hair removal for that area, why don't you use a depilatory (Nair). Personally, that's what I use instead of shaving. I haven't shaved in almost 10 years because it irritates me and my FI so I stick with Nair.
Next year, I will be doing a full Brazilian with laser hair removal because I'm just tired of having to do it every 3 weeks.
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I give FH oral WAY more than he does me. This is in part I have frequent bleeding due to the IUD (I totally understand when this is going) but he also won't reciprocate unless I am completely shaved- he says hair bothers him too much. FH likes the completely bare look, and I don't. Does your SO insist that you are shaved for oral? Am I unreasonable for being upset?
Edit: FH is moderately hairy and doesn't shave. He says that because of the differences, he gets more hair in his mouth than I would if we both don't shave. (sorry for tmi)