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hi, to erin85 let me go for more bilical explanation since you said you are both Christians.Perhaps the right question about your boyfriend is he really a Christian? if he does drink alcohol and he give up meeting of the Saints every sunday and he violates the rules in sex w/c should be done for married couple only, do you think he has a real thinking of a Christian? a good tree does not bear a bad fruit, not because he is Christian since kindergarten or for 20 yrs, that does not matter, Christianity reflects in the way of life, even in choosing a partner. If he really loves you he will love more the God who will preserve both of you till the end. one good thing about you is you were really bothered about the sin you both are committing, i pray you will have more courage to show up and stand up for your faith that accords to the Scripture whatever the cost, choose to obey the Word of God not the word of man.. Grace to you!

@soupycat: Jesus Christ demonstrate his sovereignty over all as GOD that HE can turn water into wine, that does not mean that HE was tolerating men into drunkenness.

the question here is, are we faithful to the Word of God? we always say "oh thats ok! i think its minor." we just say it or think of it, but what really the bible say about us about what we do, what does God think of us? are we aware? Jesus died for the payment of our sins regardless if it is minor or major, in fact there is no minor or major because in the little detail of sin that we do is we deserve the wrath of God. To erin85, your concern is a matter of faithfulness into God's Word, you are the one who know the situation at all, if you need comfort i cant give you, what i would do is to make it clear to you and encourage you to continue to testify Christ not only to your fiance but to all who in need of the Word of God. Romans 10:17 "Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the Word of Christ." if your fiance wouldnt go to church with you or by himself or the both of you do not commit time to study the Word of God, how do you expect your fiance to response?

@soupycat: you have a point, but is it enough to conclude that maybe He allows drunkenness? God doesn't do these things in an irrational, nonsensical
unplanned thing. Miracles were not done as gimmicks to entertain people or to tolerate them. They were purposeful. God's miracles reveal God, and they reveal the nature of God.

"..They didn't have the purification process, water was worse to drink than wine was. And in those parts of the world when it was hot, in the times of heat they would need to have their thirsts quenched. And wine was used with milk, and, of course, milk was used for other than festival occasions, milk was used much with children as it is today. But wine was the staple drink and it could be the wine from many different kind of fruit, many fruit juices but primarily from grapes because they lended themselves so well to the production of wine.Now because there was no preservatives for that wine and because there was no freezing or refrigeration technique, there was the problem that the wine did ferment and develop an intoxicating power. Because of that and because they had to drink it because it was the only drink they had, its use became very, very definitely restricted, though very necessary because it was the drink of the day. And drunkenness became a monumental disgrace. In fact, in the time of Christ, for the most part, wine was a mixture of three parts water for every two parts of wine in order to eliminate this problem of drunkenness. But on a very warm occasion, on a hot time when a man would want to be working and want to quench his thirst, it would be very easy for him to become intoxicated with wine so the Bible put tremendous stringent rules on the consumption of wine and drunkenness, both Old Testament and New Testament, right? They teach explicitly about drunkenness, absolutely sinful.Now today we don't have that problem. We don't have that problem. We have all kinds of preservatives. We don't need to even fool with those things that can ferment. We have preservatives, we have refrigeration techniques and we can gain the same flavor and we can gain the same thirst-quenching thing out of Welchs or whatever else and it has no ill effect on us. And so, because of the fact that we have these preservatives that eliminate the necessity for any kind of fermentation, we don't have that same problem, except that today we have decided to create fermentation. And the wine and the alcoholic drinks that are prepared today are prepared purposefully to dull people's senses. And you can read it on the bottle, it took them 35 years to get it the way they wanted it.You say, "Do you think it's wrong for a Christian to drink?" Not only wrong, unnecessary. In those days they were drinking it because they had to drink it and because God knew they had to drink it there were tight restrictions put on it. Today we're eliminated from that necessity and drinking today is, of course, strictly and option and it's an optional killer. It's not a necessity anymore and above that it's a stumbling block.."  

http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1504B/Christs-First-Miracle

--in bible meditation you cannot just conclude quickly, you need further study. you need to consider the culture, the current situation, the people involved, the author and all the things that is necessary to the study. you can visit the site for further study, if you really want to know. i dont force you to believe what i say but i encourage you to find out if what i say is true, only the Word of God can give us enlightenment. Grate to you!