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Pavlova... can a UK Bee Explain?

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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    Ok... so I've been watching a lot of Come Dine with Me and can someone tell me what the obsession with Pavlova is?

    I had never even heard of pavlova before moving here and I've never tried it. It seems like just meringue with whipped cream and fruit, but does it have more history than that?

    Just whenever I watch Come Dine with Me at least one (if not more hosts) make pavlova.

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    Omg I just made one the other night, it was SO yummy!! It is essentially a giant meringue, its just very light and sweet if you've had a large meal. I love them! I don't know if there's a history behind them, and I don't live in the UK, but I had to chime in with my love of them. LOL!

     
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    VickyAurea       England

    I've never had it. But I have had Eton Mess (YUM and so easy) and Baked Alaska (YUM and not at all easy). Have you heard of those?

     
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    VickyAurea       England

    Also, don't you just *love* the Come Dine With Me narrator? He's so cheeky! :)

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    @bakerella: Hmm.... sounds very yummy. I may have to try it if I ever get the chance.

     

    @VickyAurea: I LOVE eaton mess... YUM! Never made it though. And baked alaska is big in the states too and is really yummy.

    I do LOVE the Come Dine with Me comentator, he's awesome. In general TV show comentators can get away with SO much more here in the UK then they can in the US.

    I've recently been watching all the celebrity ones and they are just too funny.

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    You know the merangue on a Lemon Merangue Pie?  Well Pavlova is sorta the same,

    Its egg whites and caster sugar plus some other things all whipped up and baked.  So its crispy on the outside and soft and chewy in the middle.  Then covered in cream and fruit of your choice. 

    Its Aussie, and named after a Russian Ballerina to celebrate her tour of Aus.

    SOME people claim its from New Zealand.  But its Aussie, haha.  Its one of those rivalry things.

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    The Pav I make has vanilla paste in it and raspberries on top.  But I have also found a recipe I want to try that flavours the Pav with Chocolate and puts raspberries on top.  YUM YUM

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    @Firie: Hmmmm... those all sound really good. 

    I've never seen them in the US so I was just so confused when EVERYONE on come dine with me was making them!

    Are they hard to make look pretty? Because the ones on the show are almost always cracked or falling apart or burnt.

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    BEST PUDDING EVERRRRR!!!  My mum makes the best ones, she used to sell them a school fetes and they'd be sold before they'd even hit the stall.  Mum uses vinegar to make it gooey on the inside and hard on the outside.  Covers it in cream and then adds raspberrys and slices of kiwi.  She's always being asked to make them for family and friends, I think she made 2 just for us this Christmas.  YUM!!

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    @ladyartichoke: Wow.. yum.

    Ok does anyone have a recipe? I feel like I should try and make one.

    Only problem is DH doesn't like fruit... although he'll sometimes eat raspberries.

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    @VickyAurea: Eton Mess was created when a Pavlova broke into bits.  To rescue the day the chaps at Eton decided to rename it :)

    @bakerella: Pavlova is named after a the ballet dancer Anna Pavlova, but I think I recall the story going that she never even tried it.

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    @KatNYC2011: You can put chocolate on it if you prefer but it's much lighter with fruit.

    Here's a recipe from Delia: www.deliaonline.com

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    Not at all hard to make.  But they ALWATS collapse and crack.  Its just what they do.  To minimise it what I do is heat the oven to 180 celsius and turn it down to 150 celsiius when I put the Pav in.  Then I cook it and turn the oven off leaving it to cool inside the oven.

    And if you burn it then it is WAY overcooked, because they only need to be slightly brown, not a dark brown.

    And to give them a cripser shell you put white wine vinegar and baking soda in the mix.  The Chocolate recipe I recently found which I havent had a chance to try yet uses red wine balsamic vinegar.  Which sounded very intriguing to me.

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    http://www.foodbuzz.com/recipes/670207-nigella-lawson-s-christmas-pavlova

     

    This is the best recipe I have ever found.  Which I thought was funny seeing as she is from the UK. haha.  But I came across a you tube video of hers and she said she got the recipe from the editor of the australians womens weekly, or something like that.

     
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    mrsrangrang    January 10, 2004   TX

    oh i llove a bit of pav!! i went looking for some tonight, but they were all sold out! :( i think that some ppl do make them messier than others. however, my grandmother makes them so erfect they never crack or fall apart untill you eath them! and you can put any fruit you want. i love strawberries and passion fruit.

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    @Firie: I was just going to add that my mum puts vinegar and baking soda in.  Don't know why Delia's doesnt lol.  This recipe sounds wonderful, I'm interested in the red waine balsamic.

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    made one for Christmas.  It lasted about 5 minutes, and there was a fight for the last piece.  I don't have a pic of the finished product. But this is it cooking away in the oven.

     

    Pavlova... can a UK Bee Explain? :  wedding Pav

     

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    http://www.nigella.com/recipes/view/chocolate-raspberry-pavlova-200

     

    This is the Chocolate Recipe

     
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    mrsbacon    August 20, 2011   UK

    For me, its all about this pavlova:

    http://whatkatieate.blogspot.com/2010/05/double-chocolate-raspberry-pavlova.html

    Funnily enough, its another Nigella Lawson recipe, she must be the queen of the pavs!

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    An interesting article about it here

    @mrsrangrang:   I like a few cracks :)

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    @mrsbacon:  I've seen that blog too, but couldnt remember the link.  I love the layered effect, it looks so gorgeous!!!

     
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    simpleandchic    November 27, 2010   Adelaide, South Australia

    Pavlova is actually an Autralian/new Zealand invention - New zealanders and wikipedia seem to think it started there, I have to be patriotic and claim it just like we do with Russel crowe.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlova_(food)

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    @ladyartichoke: Interesting article indeed.  I wish I still had the cookbook I sent to an American Pen Friend when I was in high school.  It was for all Australian Recipes.  And I found it interesting that the book in question dated the Pav back to the 20s where it was created by some pastry chef in the city of Churches....Adelaide.

    And then this article quotes Perth as being where it first cropped up.

    Too funny.  As I said, its a rivalry thing.  sort of like Ford and Holden.  :D  HAHAHA

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    @mrsbacon: That looks amazing and I think DH actually might eat that one.

    I will have to try that soon.

     

    @simpleandchic: That's really interesting. I had no idea. I just know I'd never seen it in the US.

     
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    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    Mmmm... the pictures in some of those recipes look so good. Ladies, you know you can't do this to a hungry pregnant woman!! lol

    I may have to try this.

     
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    NDBee    March 10, 2012  

    @KatNYC2011: I don't know how I can crave something I didn't know existed 20 minutes ago, but this thread made me do just such a thing. Lol. Now on my list of things to attempt to make!

     
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    VickyAurea       England

    I want pavlova now. Bees, it's my birthday soon, someone bake me one!

     
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    hayleycook    February 9, 2013   New Zealand

    Firie and simpleandchic I was gonna come on here and claim it as a kiwi invention but I guess you two beat me to it and I don't want to start a heated debate over a dessert. But Russell Crowe is definitely from NZ isn't he?

     

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