Pharmacy sued for not warning about BCP blood clot risk

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Do you think someone should be sued over this?
    Yes, the pharmacy : (3 votes)
    5 %
    Yes, the doctor : (6 votes)
    11 %
    Yes, the drug manufactureer : (4 votes)
    7 %
    Yes, someone else explained below : (0 votes)
    Yes, a combination of the above : (4 votes)
    7 %
    No : (38 votes)
    69 %
  • Post # 3
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    Honey Beekeeper
    • Wedding: November 1999

    @AB Bride:  I also think the patient and her parents have some obligation to read the package insert:

    http://www.bayer.ca/files/DIANE-35%20Information%20For%20The%20Patient%20EN.pdf

    First Paragraph:

    1.DIANE-35, as with allestrogen/progestogen combinations must not be used in women
    with thrombophlebitis, thromboembolic disorders (blood clots), or a history of these
    conditions.
    2.DIANE-35 users appear to have an elevated risk of blood clots compared to users of levonorgestrel-containing combined oral contraceptivesThe risk of blood clots with DIANE-35 appears to be similar to desogestrel- and drospirenone-containing combined oral contraceptives.Estrogen/progestogen combinations should not be taken during treatment with DIANE-35.
    3.DIANE-35 should not be prescribed for the purpose of birth control alone.

     

     

    Post # 5
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: February 2014

    I think that’s just stupid. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that birth control comes with the risk of blood clots. Even if she didn’t know, it’s not like the pharmacist MADE it happen. And that’s what the drug pamphlet is for too. If you like to read fine print anyway. But really, that’s just stupid sue-happy silliness. 

    Post # 6
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2012

    If it was in the phamplet included with the medication, I don’t believe anyone should be sued. The information was given — It is not the fault of the doctor, the pharmacist or the pharmecutical company if you do not read it.

     

    Post # 7
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    Busy Beekeeper

    @julies1949:  I agree. It is up to the patient to read the medication insert and contact their doctor for further advice if they feel they should not take it.

    I feel sorry for the dad/family and I get that he wants to blame someone for his daughters death but I think in this case it was no ones fault. I personally check out every medication or treatment that is percribed by my doctor and will go back and ask/suggest another drug if I am concerned.

    That said if there is a repeat problem with the drug then it should be investigated and the manufacturer would be at fault and not the pharmacy/doctor.

    Post # 8
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    i feel like it’s extremely difficult to judge these cases without a lot more info than is included in the article.  there is only the family of a dead child’s point of view represented, and i feel like in that case it’s impossible to not feel like you should get all up in arms and like it was someone else’s fault.  yes, the dr should have said something but maybe they DID or maybe there was a packet insert for the drug.  it also amazes me that people claim they didn’t know things like this–who takes a drug without looking up anything about it?

     

     

     

    this reminds me of this article: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/17/health/california-girl-brain-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

     

    that i read earlier today.  as a nurse, i should have known not to read the article comments…. sure it’s easy to say oh the nurse didn’t do their job, the doctor didn’t do their job, but the fact is that the article is soley from a grieving family’s point of view.  the hospital and its employees are not allowed to comment on the case or what did or didn’t happen.

     

     

    ETA:  also, It also alleges the pharmacy was negligent because it continued to renew McKenzie’s prescription despite Health Canada warnings to consumers about those risks.

     

    …what?? there are TONS of drugs that have TONS of warnings. how is it the pharmacy’s decision whether the prescription should be renewed? that’s absurd

     

    Post # 9
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    Sugar Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2012

    I VOTED – NO

    Like @julies1949:  it is expected that the Patient (or Parent in the case of a minor… which this girl wasn’t) would be OBLIGATED to read the package insert.

    And someone of age like this girl… is supposed to also be somewhat responsible enough to also ask their Dr Questions etc.

    I went on BCP back in the 1970s… when things were much more NEW & risky than they are now.

    And I back then clearly KNEW that blood clots were a risk… and you can be sure I read the Prescription Inserts.

    I don’t get it…

    BUT then maybe one of the Alberta Bees can answer some Questions for me (as this is a Calgary Case)

    Here in Ontario, Shoppers prides themselves in giving out one-on-one info to their Customers when they pick up a Prescription (particularly a new one).

    You pick it up at a seperate counter… the Pharmacist is available for any Questions you may have… and often points out highlights from the usuage / side effects etc

    Shoppers also has their own long print out of info about the drug for the patient, which can be easily stowed away (we usually staple the Package Insert to it when we get home)

    This is all part of what Shopper’s calls their Patient Care Program… something they implemented maybe a decade ago so people (especially the Elderly) could keep better track of all their Meds and hopefully cut on the fact that a lot of people in the past have died because there was no one actively tracking meds that people were taking (again especially the Elderly) and that sometimes if a person went to more than one Doctor (or an open clinic) for treatment they might be prescribed one thing that would be detrimental to something else they were already taking.

    That is the ONLY reason I can see where this family might have a any sort of a case (and a long shot at that)

    In so much as one shouldn’t make the LAST WORD that you rely on the Drug Store… or even the Pharmacist

    The highest authority should ALWAYS be the Doctor or Drug company in my mind.

    That and COMMON SENSE… this Girl / Family… really needed to read the Insert IMO, and not be relying on someone else to do that for them (Shoppers Drug Mart / the Pharmacist)

     

    Post # 12
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: February 2014

    Even if the print out provided by the pharmacy didn’t include a blood clot warning the manufacturer packaging should have. In that case, unless the pharmacy got rid of the original packaging for some reason, the manufacturer should be sued. Like you said, doctors and pharmacists only really do the one-on-one if it’s requested, and usually reading the pamphlets is implied (because all the information SHOULD be there…)

    ETA: I voted no, but apparently it depends on more info!

    Post # 13
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: December 2012

    I don’t know how it is in Canada, but I’ve always gotten the “full packaging” of a drug and always gotten a printed summary of it.

    Even if the pharmacist’s phamplet didn’t mention blood clots, chances are the drug company’s phamplet did.

    Post # 15
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: July 2013

    @AB Bride:  As far as I understood, it’s not the pharmacists’ responsibility to provide information like that about prescription drugs, it’s the person providing the prescription – the doctor. Medication packets here in Australia always include the printed summary of warnings, but honestly, I’ve never read one for the BCP. I usually rely on the doctor to tell me if there’s any side effects when he or she actually prescribes the medication. However, I do read them for anti-depressants, because the one I’m taking (Lexapro) has like five hundred side effects and I experience a few of them. I wanted to check if they were ‘normal’ side effects as opposed to ‘get your arse to a hospital ASAP’.

    To get the BCP pill I’ve always had to have a blood pressure check, and when I first went on it, I was warned about elevated blood pressure and blood clots by my GP. 

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