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Hey Bees,
I am majorly freaking out and just need to vent. Got a call from our wedding planner last night that she heard from a vendor friend that our photographer did not show up to a wedding she was booked for last weekend. Like no calls, no word, nothing, just did not show up! And this is not a new unknown photographer, it's someone who's been working in the area for over 10 years, and came highly recommended by both vendors and online reviews.
Now I am majorly freaking out. We've had a few issues this summer with this photog going AWOL, as in she stopped answering calls/emails, her facebook and email were deactivated temporarily, but thought it was all sorted out after we spoke to her and found out she had been in the hospital and just got behind. But that was a couple months ago, and she seemed to have got it back together. Just cracked it up to she was going through a rouch patch, and would more than likely have it under control for our wedding next summer.
But now I have lost a lot of faith in this photog. She literally MISSED a wedding! There is no re-do for that, no way to get that time back on film. And even though it is still a long time to my wedding, how do I trust that she can be relied on to be there?
My wedding planner wants us to start looking for a back up, and she and my videographer (close friend of the photog) have put in calls to the photog to find out what's up. I'm torn because I spent a lot of time looking for a photographer that I liked style-wise within out budget, and the thought of doing it over again makes me want to throw up. But so does the fear of having no pro photos from my wedding day!
I don't even know my point in writing this thread, I just need to vent! I don't want to be dealing with this!
@ChemistryBride: *hugs* What a stressful thing to have to deal with! I would find a back up (or replacement) right away, no doubt! Good luck dear!
That's lame! I'm sorry!
I would say that if the attempts you've made to get ahold of her go unanswered for about the next say - 2 weeks, I would start looking for a new photographer. I know it sucks but it's better to worry about this now rather than later!
@ChemistryBride: Are you sure she's not sick again and in hospital?
My job is one where I am on call and available to my clients at all times, if I'm away there is still a back up and I would do anything in my power to get things done that need to be done. I would think if she's someone who has been doing this for a while that she would do something similar but if she's in hospital again maybe she wasn't even able to do that/
@sarahbabs: Thanks for the hugs and luck, I sure need it!
@mittens111211: Yeah, I think that is a good plan. It definitely is worth the piece of mind. I am not sure if I will be able to get my deposit back from her, but it is probably worth the piece of mind to have someone I can trust!
@Ms. Martian: No, I am not sure yet. No one has been able to get ahold of her, including my planner, videographer, and another vendor who is actually her daughter's boyfriend. So I am still waiting to make any decisions until I hear from her, but I'm just afraid because last time she was in the hospital she at least had her father call clients with close events to let them know what was going on and that she would still be there. This doesn't seem like it happened this time. I would think that she normally has a back up plan, so I don't know what is going on. I hope I get more info soon!
Normally if there are dire events where a photographer could not make it to a wedding they should have a close group of other photogs in which they could rely on to show up and take over their position. The fact that she didn't even send a replacement says very little about her work ethic and would leave me thinking very little of her as a business owner.
I would suggest you bring your list of photographers back up and start looking around again. There is no harm in at least having a few chosen back ups picked out if she is still AWOL in a few weeks. I would also have a very stearn discussion with her about how you want to be able to trust her but you have lost confidance in her ability to perform now that you have heard this story. Make sure you check and double check your contract with her as well to ensure that there is a backup plan in place if she were to not show up to your wedding.
What area are you from? I ask because there are a ton of brides on the knot from Detroit who had this happen to them super recently by a photographer named Amanda Williams - same thing where she just didn't show up to a wedding and has gone AWOL. I know they were getting multiple phone numbers and e-mail addresses and contacting her regarding reimbursing them while they found new photographers - which is what I would start on ASAP if I were you! I'm so sorry!
I completely understand your hesitations in going forth with her. Even if it is not intended on her part, the fact is she obviously has health issues that are hindering her ability to properly and professionally do her job. I hope in the end she is okay, but if I were in your shoes I would start looking for a different photographer. There is no need for you to gamble on this, especially since you have the time available to work around it.
Were are you located? Perhaps some of us Bees can make some suggestions and help ease your search for a new photographer.
Better safe than sorry. Go with a different photographer and when you call to cancel the photographer tell them exactly why you are cancelling. Hopefully they will learn some responsibility and never do this to another bride.
@MsBrooklynA: I did check my contract, and it says nothing about her not showing/unable to perform for a wedding or a back-up plan, though I do remember asking her about it before we booked and I believe she essentially said it has never happened, but she would find a replacement. It does say that if I cancel/postpone the wedding/contract, the retainer is non-refundable, and says if for any reason the studio fails to comply with contract, her liability is limited to the retainer. But the contract is very basic and does not go into details as in if she does not contact in a timely manner, etc. So I'm not sure where I stand with it.
@Wonderstruck: No, not from Detroit, from Upstate NY, but I feel for those brides, because this is no fun!
@atomic: From the Albany, NY area, and thanks for the support!
Who is this photographer, and what on earth did last weekends bride do??? How awful! I can't imagine that kind of stress! :(
@ChemistryBride: Hmm I wonder if they do have anything to do with eachother then...because the Detroit girls said she now lives in NY and apparntely has done the same thing to some brides there. At the very least I would start researching the possibility of a second photographer, find out who is in your price range and available on your date.
I would say find another photographer... Better safe than sorry
That's awful. I'm a tiny bit worried about this - our photog is working on her own and when I asked her about a backup, she said it's never happened. But she did also say she had friends from photography school she could rely on in case of emergency.
We're not spending a lot of money on our pics though.
But yeah, I would take last week's wedding as a sign that your photog does not have a reliable backup, and start looking for someone you can call.
@MsBrooklynA: Normally if there are dire events where a photographer could not make it to a wedding they should have a close group of other photogs in which they could rely on to show up and take over their position. The fact that she didn't even send a replacement says very little about her work ethic and would leave me thinking very little of her as a business owner.
This. It's not worth putting in your photographic meomories in jeopardy. I would eat the retainer and hire a new, professional photographer who outlines a backup plan.
Find another photog. Better you freak out now and go through the suckiness of picking another vendor than endure the constant worry about whether she'll show up on your wedding day, the major upset if she doesn't, and the hassle of dealing with her afterwards to get compensation or a refund. You don't get a re-do on this one.
Are you absolutely POSITIVE that the photographer just didn't show? This seems a little "grapevine-y" to me... Are you sure that the photographer didn't (for some incredibly strange reason,) make arrangements with, say, the bride and groom, that no one else knew about or something, including your vendor-friend?
Find a new photographer. I'm sorry that you have to go through this, but a photographer who does not have a back up is just plain unprofessional.
I would first confirm that the photog definately pulled a no-show and if that's the case, I would take it as a blessing in disguise. Better to find this out now and make arrangements for a new photographer than to have no photos of your wedding.
@Aure: Agree completely.
NOT fun, but mucho better to have paid a bit more for peace of mind, rather than stressing over her possibly not showing up.
You need to get yourself a new photographer. Given that it's June of 2012, there should still be some good ones available. So sorry this has happened but you can't afford to not have a great photographer for your day.
@joy2011: @PinkPinstripes: I know it does sound a little grape-viney, but I do trust this information because the DJ in question actually owns one of the major wedding vendor referral sites in our area, and has only said good things about this photog in the past. I am still hoping to hear from her directly to find out what up, though as of the moment she has not returned our calls nor the wedding planner and our videographer. Even though her Facebook shows activity within the past day, so I know she is alive and well enough to be on Facebook.
That is so stressful. Im sorry that you are feeling like this. IMO it is scary and you should always follow your instincts. If you have a bad feeling about this photographer start looking for a new one.. ASAP. Good luck with everything and breath. You have a bit of time.
Thanks bees...I really appreciate the support. I agree with what the majority is saying, and feel like it's not worth the stress for me to have to wonder if she is going to show up the day of our wedding, and am planning on booking a new photographer that I can trust, which is what my wedding planner recommended as well.
I am very lucky too, my wedding planner made this much easier on me and contacted 2 photographers for me who were available and in my budget and on opposite sides of the style spectrum, and essentially said choose between these 2. This is making it soooo much easier because it limits the choices!
Still have heard nothing from my original photographer, though she has had Facebook activity which means she is at least alive and capable of getting on the internet. At this point, I will more likey than not be booking someone new, and hoping I can get my deposit back from the original. Even if I can't, losing the money is worth the peace of mind!
Thanks again bees...it's great to have an audience of brides to help ensure that I am not just going nuts over nothing!
@ChemistryBride: Well I am glad that you are going to go with someone else. Its great that your planner is being so helpful good luck!! :)
@ChemistryBride: Hey there.. I am getting married in the Albany area in June 2012 too! I'm sorry that I just saw your post and didn't reply sooner! I know some really awesome photogs in the area if you need some recommendations.
It looks like your wedding planner has it all under control though! So glad she was able to help you find a replacement. Haha can I ask who your planner is?? I'm in the market for a DOC and she sounds awesome!!
@TinyTina: Thanks so much! I'll let you know if I need photog recommendations...currently checking out the ones wedding planner sent, so after that if I need more I will def ask!
And sure, I will def send you my planner's name, I'll send you a PM. We were looking for DOC too and wound up hiring her for more!
@ChemistryBride: Have you tried facebooking her. If she is on there I would post that you have been trying to contact her and you see she is online to please contact you.
this happen to my friend the other week,well similar, she tried to call just before the wedding, sort of a last minute check up on vendors, after try for a few days with him not answering calls, e-mails, text, she had to find a photographer 2 days before the wedding, and obviously couldn't be to picky, i just hope she gets some compo of the original photographer and that the photos come out ok, fingers crossed.
i also don;t think you should be stressing about this set you wedding planner to work on sorting this out for you.
Photographer for over 10 years. All good reviews. Highly recommended by people in the business (that you hired as well). And........................is now a no show?
She was previously in the hospital? It could be (sounds like) something serious. Either way, honestly your wedding is not for awhile, if you need to change photog - do it. It sounds like something serious is going on since she's never been flightly or missed a wedding.
Wow. People like that have no business being in business! My heart literally sank just thinking about the couple that she flaked on. First things first... the fact that she failed to uplhold her responsibility to another client isn't a breach of contract with you. However, it is defintiely a huge red flag! You should get in contact with the photographer and talk to her about your concerns... you might be able to get her to agree to a new contract that stipulates more detailed terms which would include a backup photographer of your choosing (that she has to pay in the event of a no-show). That way you can line someone up, meet with them, and make sure that you are covered no matter what. If she doesn't respond to your emails, that would be an easy way out as it would almost defintiely be considered a breach of contract on her part. She would have to refund your deposit, and possibly pay damages. But that would be the hard part... tracking her down to get your money back. It sounds like your planner is doing her part in watching out for you, don't be afraid to lean on her/him for this one. Either way, you should definitely line up a back up!
We always stipulate our backup plan in our contracts... we never ever ever EVER EVER want any of our clients to be left hanging even if I get hit by a bus walking across the street to shoot the wedding! Real pros at least do a pre-wedding consultation call at least a couple of weeks in advance to confirm all the details, and are ususally in constant communication as the wedding plans develop. Best of luck!!!
@mrskesslertobe: I would- except at some point today she deactivated her Facebook account. Which is what she did over the summer when no one could get in contact with her when she is in the hospital. I had tried messaging her/posting on her wall then, and the only response I got was a deactivated account. Eventually we got a call back then, but it was after a very stressful week or two of thinking she just up and disappeared. I forgave that one as an emergency that she just got herself behind on work, but to do the same thing again and this time miss a wedding is ridiculous.
In all likelihood she does have something bad going on in her personal life, but her instinct seems to be to panic and ignore/shut down all forms of communication (In August when she had health problems she deactivated Facebook, email deactivated, not returning phone calls). Even if she has something going on, the way she is handling it is not professional, she is running away instead of dealing with her clients. This confirms my instinct that I don't trust her with photographing our wedding, as much as I like her as a person and her work.
@AcquaPhoto: Thank you so much for your comment! Lots of useful info in there. I definitely didn't get strict enough contract with her, and I take fault for that, it was the first vendor we booked and we just went with the standard contract she gave us. Now I know better, and what questions to ask!
And I figured her breaking someone else's contract doesn't affect mine, but interesting to know that her lack of communication does! So if she is not responding to calls/emails and deactivated her facebook (for the SECOND time this summer...I "forgave" it the first time, this time is too much!) that would be a breech of contract? Do you know if there is a certain amount of time she would have to get back to me before the contract is breeched? Thanks again!
As aweful as it is to see that this bride and yourself are going through such frustrating circumstances it teaches me a valuable lesson about how a contract should be writting and what to ask for if I would like my contract changed in any form.
For any of the photographers on this thread, would you be offended if a client asked for a stricter communication description or wanted to change the contract in some way? Is it a red flag if a vendor isn't willing to accomodate your requests within reason?
@RR:Photographer for over 10 years. All good reviews. Highly recommended by people in the business (that you hired as well). And........................is now a no show?
Yeah I am really surprised by this as well. To throw away 10+ years of references and potential bookings with that wedding planner just doesn't seem to be worth it for a minor circumstance. I couldn't imagine a professional doing something like this that could ruin their reputation within such a gossipy industry.
To the OP good luck and thankfully you have a wedding planner to take the guess work out of a backup. I hope you find one you like. :)
@RR: @Treejewel19: I know, trust me I keep going over this in my mind. I was SO careful researching photographers, and all these things are what drew me to her. Which makes me feel bad because I feel like something in her life must be a disaster to bring her to the point of ruining her reputation. Part of me wishes I could just stick by her and trust that things wil be better in the 8 months until my wedding...but to be honest I don't handle stress well and the fact that this could happen to me I think is more than I can take on top of normal wedding stress!
So I still haven't heard anything from the MIA photographer, but I noticed this new review on her WeddingWire page:
We got married in May 2011. It is now the end of September and we still do not have our proof album or any photos. We have contacted her 10 times and still no response. She has cashed all our checks and we have nothing to show for it. I have contact the small claims court but they said she has moved and we need an updated address which they are having trouble finding. They were able to tell me someone else would like to take her to small claims. I would not recommend her at all
So even though she showed up to this woman's wedding, she has yet to cough up the photos! So glad I was forewarned and have a chance to make other plans, though it looks like I will have more than a little trouble getting my money back!
@ChemistryBride: Something serious is going on with her and she's not giving any info (I guess she doesn't have to pour out her personal life and health technically, but if she wants to maintain a good rep - she needs to handle her business and speak with her clients). Honestly, it's making me panic-y just reading this, are you going to change photog's? Have you tried to ask for a refund of anything you've already payed her? Send a certified letter, perhaps?
@ChemistryBride: holy crap - a bullet, you're dodging one. i do hope you get your deposit back but if not, you're right - at least you'll have peace of mind (and a better chance of getting your photos!) with another photog
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